Baby flushed down airplane toilet

MrMatisse

FFS!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/7879061/Indian-mum-tries-to-flush-newborn-down-plane-toilet.html

An Indian woman gave birth to a baby in the lavatory of an international passenger plane and tried to dispose of it down the toilet, media reports in New Delhi said on Thursday.

latenia

Kudos to her for completing a medicine degeree at 22.

KeithM89_old

What an absolute bitch - she should be taken out round the coal shed and shot :mad::mad:

humanji

Keithm89 wrote: »

What an absolute bitch - she should be taken out round the coal shed and shot :mad::mad:

I'd say it was the fear of something like that happening that made her do it in the first place.

mikemac

She was returning home.

Who knows, maybe her conservative parents and neighbors would have killed her for getting pregnant in the first place.

Micky Dolenz

How sad, probably felt she couldn't face her family with a baby, esp being unmarried.

Her mental state must be shot to bits, sad situation for sure.

AckwelFoley

So much to say..

way to many rules preventing me

Overheal

I hope she's given a quiet room and a long time to think about nothing else besides the image of her trying to flush her baby down an airplane toilet.

Just imagining it from scratch is sickening enough. I hope it wracks her for years.

xoxyx

Not the first time this has happened either.

There's so much that's messed up - and this is just what we know about!!

Howard the Duck

She could have at least waited to see if it needed a second flush..feel sorry for the person who had to use the toilet after her.

But to be serious.. anyone who does something like this has to have serious mental problems. I doubt she's an evil person but just a person that needs a lot of help. Hope the baby pulls through

Scarydoll

Holy Jeebus! Some doctor she'd make.

NothingMan

Morals these days have just gone right down the toilet.

Winty

Overheal wrote: »

I hope it wracks her for years.

I feel sorry for her, something must scare her so much she would kill her own baby

AckwelFoley

Winty wrote: »

I feel sorry for her, something must scare her so much she would kill her own baby

Probably spend 12 hours on a flight beside a screaming little brat that then probably puked on his mother.

Kiwi_knock

How someone could do that is beyond my contemplation but it shows how strong family and social traditions are in India

How'd she get on board that late, I would have thought there were restrictions on travelling heavily pregnant

Gurgle

Source: The Telegraph.
Their source: Unspecified 'media sources' in New Delhi

:rolleyes:

Mac Masters

And this woman's studying to be a doctor?

Sounds like the gene pool needs some chlorine!

sam34

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mikemac

She was returning to India and this goes on in that part of the world

Honour Killing

An honor killing or honour killing[1] (also called a customary killing) is the murder of a (typically female) family or clan member by one or more fellow (mostly male) family members, in which the perpetrators (and potentially the wider community) believe the victim to have brought dishonour upon the family, clan, or community. The perceived dishonor is normally the result of the following behaviors, or the suspicion of such behaviors: (a) utilizing dress codes unacceptable to the family/community, (b) wanting to terminate or prevent an arranged marriage or desiring to marry by own choice, or (c) engaging in certain sexual acts, including those with the opposite or same sex. Such killings or attempted killings result from the perception that the defense of honor justifies killing a person whose behavior dishonors their own clan or family.

Not forgetting Acid Throwing

It's terrrible what happened.
But the girl needs help and it's a pity she felt they was nobody could help her.
If her parents felt that she brought dishonour to the family would she and her child be alive today? I don't know, she was in a terrible situation

discus

I feel sorry for whatever cleaner boarded the plane to clean, and then walked in on that. Imagine the horror you'd feel, being completely helpless in a situation like that.

stovelid

Why is everybody jumping to the conclusion that she did it to escape censure at home? Why are you all so certain?

Piste

I guess people are trying to reassure themselves that nobody would coldly flush a baby down a toilet without a very good reason e.g. fear for their own lives.

CreepingDeath

Maybe she saw it had ginger hair.

tommyhaas

Baby flushed down airplane toilet

I saw the thread title, then looked at the OP's name (Really-Stressed). TBH, thought this was gona be a lot more interesting!

Pompey Magnus

If the kid had got flushed out she could have named him Geronimo...oh wait, wrong type of Indian.

starbelgrade

Reading that story made me quite angry. I'm feeling quite flushed to think that she could have killed a baby in such a way.

Superbus

Kiwi_knock wrote: »

How someone could do that is beyond my contemplation but it shows how strong family and social traditions are in India

So strong that they go the other direction and families flush each other down the toilet.

easyeason3

How did she think this was going to work?

I'm afraid to poo in airplane toilets in case it won't flush. They just seem so small & narrow.

jimmycrackcorm

I blame Michael O' Leary. All this talk of extra charges has made people go to extremes. At least if his plans for charging toilet use comes in it will introduce a world of cheap abortions.

Jeanious

stovelid wrote: »

Why is everybody jumping to the conclusion that she did it to escape censure at home? Why are you all so certain?

Indeed....think about it, a few hours later she woulda been home and heavily pregnant, surely if she didn't want the family to know she would have stayed wherever she was, got rid of it there and then gone home?

The_Joker.

Maybe she thought it was Mr Hankey the Christmas poooooo......

Bottle_of_Smoke

At least she didn't have an abortion

celticbest

WTF...... I think I've heard just about everything now.

stovelid

Piste wrote: »

I guess people are trying to reassure themselves that nobody would coldly flush a baby down a toilet without a very good reason e.g. fear for their own lives.

If people think that the only reason that people do horrible shit to kids is because they are afraid of their families, they're mistaken.

Or she could have been even mentally ill.

Perhaps if it was an unemployed single mother from Liverpool, we'd just be calling for her to be hanged, no doubt.

Not saying it wasn't the first thing to go through my mind though, but who knows?

Maybe an ultra-conservative patriarchal family wouldn't even allow a young woman go and study for such a career-orientated course in another country but obviously I'm just idly speculating: like everybody else. :pac:

Hank_Jones

After what's happened to her, she must be feeling a little flushed.

John C

This baby's welfare should be priority.

This woman was probably in a state of shock when she went into labour
at 30,000 feet. She probably was not fully aware of her actions let alone the consequences.
She needs help and rehabilitation.

Novella

Scared is not a good enough reason, imo. It's fucking sick.

Thomas828

Try and look at it from her angle. She's unmarried and pregnant or has had a child out of wedlock and she's coming back to a society that is deeply hostile to this. They could do anything to her, like burying her up to waist and stoning her to death. She was a really, really desperate woman.

John C

Thomas828 wrote: »

Try and look at it from her angle. She's unmarried and pregnant or has had a child out of wedlock and she's coming back to a society that is deeply hostile to this. They could do anything to her, like burying her up to waist and stoning her to death. She was a really, really desperate woman.

I agree with most of the above. Here are some more points. Cases of women in desperation abandoning their newborn baby have also happened in Europe.
Women have prematurely gone into labour in Germany and went into panic. These women came from families where sex before marriage is not frowned upon. Lots of their relations had marriageless childen. I vaguely recall one case where the woman was married and the husband had a very good income. Labour started in the wrong place and at the wrong time.

This woman was in an aeroplane. Women tell me that the agony of childbirth is desperate. She was all by herself with no midwife or family for support. She could not have been 100% rational. When she does recover these events will haunt her for years to come.

Yakult

Well thats a new way of getting rid of a baby.

Howard the Duck

John C wrote: »

The woman was in an aeroplane. Women tell me that the agony of childbirth is desperate. She was all by herself with no midwife or family for support. She could not have been 100% rational. When she does recover these events will haunt her for years to come.

I agree. Anyone who flushes a baby down a toilet can hardly be sane. If the baby dies there will be no punishment she can be given that will match the guilt and pain she will feel.

pirelli

stovelid wrote: »

Or she could have been even mentally ill.

Mentally ill people must do very evil things without knowing it, but what made me drop the mentally ill defence is that she was able to complete a medical degree without coming to any real and serious attention.

I am glad I am not mentally ill, but then again if i was I might have been a doctor.

sligopark

R_H_C_P wrote: »

Well thats a new way of getting rid of a baby.

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

At least she didn't have an abortion

Sure why didn't she pull it out of the toilet and ask for a doggy bag

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

I blame Michael O' Leary. All this talk of extra charges has made people go to extremes. At least if his plans for charging toilet use comes in it will introduce a world of cheap abortions.

Gaysus it would put Marie Stopes out of business ...

John C wrote: »

This baby's welfare should be priority.

This woman was probably in a state of shock when she went into labour
at 30,000 feet. She probably was not fully aware of her actions let alone the consequences.
She needs help and rehabilitation.

LOL LOL LOL and some more education about life and its importance in medicine OOPs forgot she was a DOCTOR ...

christ on a bike!

Thomas828 wrote: »

Try and look at it from her angle. She's unmarried and pregnant or has had a child out of wedlock and she's coming back to a society that is deeply hostile to this. They could do anything to her, like burying her up to waist and stoning her to death. She was a really, really desperate woman.

There's a billion people in India, it's not all so conservative. I've met a lot of quite open-minded Indians, think Goa and the 60's!

Of course it's a possibility but definately not a certainty

sligopark

Thomas828 wrote:

Try and look at it from her angle. She's unmarried and pregnant or has had a child out of wedlock and she's coming back to a society that is deeply hostile to this. They could do anything to her, like burying her up to waist and stoning her to death. She was a really, really desperate woman.

christ on a bike! wrote: »

There's a billion people in India, it's not all so conservative. I've met a lot of quite open-minded Indians, think Goa and the 60's!

christ on a bike! wrote: »

Of course it's a possibility but definately not a certainty

It could be however if we were to contact Bill Gates and ask him to provide planes and toilets rather than the sterilizing vaccines he is presently promoting

christ on a bike!

sligopark wrote: »

It could be however if we were to contact Bill Gates and ask him to provide planes and toilets rather than the sterilizing vaccines he is presently promoting

Ha?

sligopark

Classic on youtube - better stop breathing ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvhZ1JZE7mQ

sdanseo

For the lovea god, if you don't want the baby then LEAVE it in the toilet or maybe hide it somewhere and ring the airline after you disembark etc...but flushing it? Murder tbh.

NoHornJan

There is only one person who knows what happened in that toilet.
Even though she had studied medicine, she still had to give birth alone, without the assistance of a midwife and without any painkillers or oxygen etc.
Many women have massive mood swings before, during or after giving birth and should not be held responsible for what they say or do during this time.
I can't understand why none of the passengers or crew didn't hear or suspect something, because usualy it is a slow and noisy affair.

Dravokivich

a doctor at the Escorts Hospital near the airport

They've a hospital for posh whores?