Limerick graffiti cover up mystery

munstergirl

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3 men armed with paint have been going around city covering up all the graffiti. They have been telling people they are from limerick city council but they are not.
So far they have done skateboard park + the spot on dock road.
Well done mystery men.

Raiser

We'd have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those damned kids.........

RINO87

Be Feck!!!! The graffiti in the skatepark really brightened up the place, I hope theres a marathon of spraying down there this weekend!!

munstergirl

I'm sure the mystery men are fighting a loosing battle but fair play to them for trying to clean up city.

I'm sure skateboard park has been graffited again already as they have blank canvas.

topper75

Arty graffitti and murals on walls of derelict places can brighten the place up. Tagging on the other hand is just moronic.

I'd be happy if they concentrated on erasing just the latter.

Raiser

Saw them earlier just off Little-Catherine St. and took this Photo.....

Seems that if you're going to wander around Limerick Guerilla-over-spraying then you have to be camouflaged, wear body-armour and carry an Assault Rifle......

Mc Love

Fair play to them. Residents in Raheen also carried out a war against vandals and their graffiti - a rather successful one

Raiser

Mc Love wrote: »

Fair play to them. Residents in Raheen also carried out a war against vandals and their graffiti - a rather successful one

I assume you mean Mob violence/Vigilante justice?

Kess73

Raiser wrote: »

I assume you mean Mob violence/Vigilante justice?

You never got the memo then?

Kess73

munstergirl wrote: »

Page 6 limerick post.
3 men armed with paint have been going around city covering up all the graffiti. They have been telling people they are from limerick city council but they are not.
So far they have done skateboard park + the spot on dock road.Well done mystery men.

You mean they have gone and covered up the two spots where it was actually art and not an eyesore then?

If that is the case then the three of them are nothing but arseholes, as a lot of time and effort went into what was done at the skatepark and the dock road spot with the Munster players out front, plus all that "graffiti" was done with permission, unlike the scumbag tagging that pretty much is everywhere else around the town.

Captain Average

Graffiti and skatebording go hand in hand, they should have left that well alone. It wasn't upsetting anyone.
If anyone gets their hands on the tool who has tagged G* all over raheen/dooradoyle, please consider giving me a call before giving the bloke a hiding. I'd like to join in.

Raiser

Mc Love wrote: »

Fair play to them. Residents in Raheen also carried out a war against vandals and their graffiti - a rather successful one

Raiser wrote: »

I assume you mean Mob violence/Vigilante justice?

Kess73 wrote: »

You never got the memo then?

I took the now infamous Roxboro Garda Station approach to the situation when I received the calls for assistance - I farted and changed TV channel.

PJTierney

They should leave the artistic graffiti and get rid of the tagging (like all the crap on the new bridge by the Crescent SC). Murals etc. can be quite impressive, as seen eblow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfvt8D6qoaA

Some of these were even exhibited at LSAD last year, and they looked amazing in a gallery space.

munstergirl

I think there are some very talented graffiti artists in limerick and some of them made some money selling their graffiti on canvas in sarsfield street recently. So any budding graffiti artists buy some canvas and sell your art, lots of money to be made if you have talent.

As for the vandals destroying the city why don't you graffiti the outside of your own house if its such art, leave public property alone.

phill106

Raiser wrote: »

Saw them earlier just off Little-Catherine St. and took this Photo.....

Seems that if you're going to wander around Limerick Guerilla-over-spraying then you have to be camouflaged, wear body-armour and carry an Assault Rifle......

Looks like they are doing it in falujah wearing that gear.
Besides, they wouldnt need full machine guns, simple pistol/shotgun would have done the job!

Nockz

Where did the end of that article go? It kinda got covered up by some big photo didn't it?

Insect Overlord

I'm actually disgusted. The artwork at the skate-park and that yard on the Dock Road was fantastic. These people who covered it up are as much idiots as the taggers, and should be punished as such.

28064212

phill106 wrote: »

Looks like they are doing it in falujah wearing that gear.
Besides, they wouldnt need full machine guns, simple pistol/shotgun would have done the job!

It's actually in Karmah, a small city between Fallujah and Baghdad: http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/2008/04/the-liberation-1.php (about 15 pictures down)

jonski

Wasn't Pat Shortt's brother involved in the graffiti around the skate park .....

Covering up that and the place on the Dock Road is just silly , two places where it actually fitted in .

Millie

jonski wrote: »

Wasn't Pat Shortt's brother involved in the graffiti around the skate park .....

YES, good on him....

Covering up that and the place on the Dock Road is just silly , two places where it actually fitted in .

Agreed

PJTierney

jonski wrote: »

Wasn't Pat Shortt's brother involved in the graffiti around the skate park .....

Covering up that and the place on the Dock Road is just silly , two places where it actually fitted in .

Pat Shortt himself is a graduate of the art college so it's a possibility. (edit: just saw above )

Wheelsonthebus

I'm sorry but that skate park has been absolutely filthy since they first opened it. Graffitti aside, which is to be expected, that place is just teaming with rubbish every time i pass it.
Shame after so many years of campaigning for it to be provided for them they cant keep it clean or just aren't bothered. Seems like these alternative indie/hipster kids far from being alternative are just exactly like every other scumbag and cant clean up after themselves.

Cue abuse.

jonski

Wheelsonthebus wrote: »

Seems like these alternative indie/hipster kids far from being alternative are just exactly like every other scumbag and cant clean up after themselves.

Cue abuse.

The indie/hipster kids have moved on because the park has become full of scumbags . ( according to my " indie/hipster kids " )

Wheelsonthebus

jonski wrote: »

The indie/hipster kids have moved on because the park has become full of scumbags . ( according to my " indie/hipster kids " )

Well maybe thats the reason.

Stab*City

munstergirl wrote: »

As for the vandals destroying the city why don't you graffiti the outside of your own house if its such art, leave public property alone.

Your confusing graffiti with tagging similar but not the same.. the less arty stuff you see everywhere is tagging unlike arty graff the main aim here is to just get your name (tag) in as much places as you can.. its a worldwide phenomenon bigger and more funded cities have tried and failed to stem the rise of tagging.. as an ex tagger i quite like it as long as there is effort and style.. wouldnt be into doing myself anymore ive grown up (slightly)!!

Wheelsonthebus wrote: »

Seems like these alternative indie/hipster kids far from being alternative are just exactly like every other scumbag and cant clean up after themselves.

I have yet to see someone use a public park and then clean it.. fair enough if you drop a paper/can you should pick it up.. but to call these kids names cuz the whole city has dirtied their park is a joke.. have you seen the talent limerick is producing skaterwise these days? but hey lets paint every one of those kids with the same brush eh..:rolleyes:

Wheelsonthebus

Stab*City wrote: »

Your confusing graffiti with tagging similar but not the same.. the less arty stuff you see everywhere is tagging unlike arty graff the main aim here is to just get your name (tag) in as much places as you can.. its a worldwide phenomenon bigger and more funded cities have tried and failed to stem the rise of tagging.. as an ex tagger i quite like it as long as there is effort and style.. wouldnt be into doing myself anymore ive grown up (slightly)!!



I have yet to see someone use a public park and then clean it.. fair enough if you drop a paper/can you should pick it up.. but to call these kids names cuz the whole city has dirtied their park is a joke.. have you seen the talent limerick is producing skaterwise these days? but hey lets paint every one of those kids with the same brush eh..:rolleyes:

Hmmm, I didn't know the whole city was coming down to the dock road to dump their rubbish. I've certainly never thrown any rubbish near there.

The skaters kids use the skate park, the skate park is full of rubbish therefore the skater kids must play some part in contributing to the build up of rubbish down there.

Are you seriously suggesting that they have no part to play- that they're simply patsies in a twisted garbage dumping plot? Come on get real.

Wheelsonthebus

I also have no doubt that they are talented, but does having talent mean that you're less likely to dump rubbish or something?

I'm not saying these are bad kids, I'm just saying the place is dirty and it's surprised me that after years of campagning for it, that they dont seem to bothered about keeping it clean.

Kess73

Just home and drove back along the Dock road on the way. The painting of Paul O' Connell and O'Gara has been covered badly with cheap beige paint as has many of the sections of wall inside that yard.

There is already dirty manky looking tagging on the beige bits, and where the two rugby players faces were.

Well done to the arseholes who painted over the graffiti art, the area down there looks terrible now with big beige sections withy tagging on it.

From what I saw the places that they have painted over now look worse and more tatty than before now.

I hope they get caught and done for it tbh. Three attention seeking idiots with paint who are no better than the scum who tag walls. With luck they get caught and charged for it.

Raiser

Just because the rubbish is there doesn't mean the Kids who use it are responsible for 100% of it - Or 5% of it for that matter?

Anyhow, in most Cities across the Planet the Public Authorities collect revenue and fund essential Public Services from this financial reserve, often times they'll sweep Streets/Collect Litter etc.

All of this is coming soon to Limerick circa 2028 AD*

DISCLAIMER: Limerick may never be run as a modern-day, progressive, first world City and be afforded basic sanitation etc.

Kess73

Wheelsonthebus wrote: »

I also have no doubt that they are talented, but does having talent mean that you're less likely to dump rubbish or something?

I'm not saying these are bad kids, I'm just saying the place is dirty and it's surprised me that after years of campagning for it, that they dont seem to bothered about keeping it clean.

I think the scum that go in there drinking and sunbathing when the weather is fine do more in terms of litter than the kids to be fair.

billy the squid

wheelsonthebus

Quit your trolling or I will have to quit your trolling for you

Any more off-topic trollery will result in bannings.

Stab*City

Wheelsonthebus wrote: »

Hmmm, I didn't know the whole city was coming down to the dock road to dump their rubbish. I've certainly never thrown any rubbish near there.

The skaters kids use the skate park, the skate park is full of rubbish therefore the skater kids must play some part in contributing to the build up of rubbish down there.

Are you seriously suggesting that they have no part to play- that they're simply patsies in a twisted garbage dumping plot? Come on get real.

Whole City = Figure of Speech (said id explain since you missed it)

Im suggesting the people who's duty it is to clean public parks should clean it and anyone who is in the park should think twice about dropping litter..

does that help?

Stab*City

Wheelsonthebus wrote: »

I also have no doubt that they are talented, but does having talent mean that you're less likely to dump rubbish or something?

I'm not saying these are bad kids, I'm just saying the place is dirty and it's surprised me that after years of campagning for it, that they dont seem to bothered about keeping it clean.

Its hard enough to get kids to clean their rooms not to mind a public park.. get real.. its the councils job.. period

Wheelsonthebus

billy the squid wrote: »

wheelsonthebus

Quit your trolling or I will have to quit your trolling for you

Any more off-topic trollery will result in bannings.

What are you on about? How am I trolling? I'm discussing the state of a park with another poster- and giving my opinion, like he is his. Not trying to deliberately annoy anyone. Should I set up a new thread about this instead?

Liam Byrne

Stab*City wrote: »

as an ex tagger i quite like it as long as there is effort and style

It's vandalism, plain and simple. Would you be OK if I scraped your car or painted your house with "effort and style" ?

Plus it's ugly and drags the tone of the whole place down.

Stab*City wrote: »

fair enough if you drop a paper/can you should pick it up.. but to call these kids names cuz the whole city has dirtied their park is a joke.. have you seen the talent limerick is producing skaterwise these days? but hey lets paint every one of those kids with the same brush eh..:rolleyes:

Now,there's an idea.....if you want to paint the kids, then fire away.....at least they can have a bath afterwards......or you can "tag" them, so that their useless parents can remember their names given that they haven't seen them all day while they were out "tagging".

Liam Byrne

Stab*City wrote: »

Its hard enough to get kids to clean their rooms not to mind a public park.. get real.. its the councils job.. period

Maybe there'd be less cleaning of the park required if scumbags didn't tag it ?

Stab*City

Liam Byrne wrote: »

It's vandalism, plain and simple. Would you be OK if I scraped your car or painted your house with "effort and style" ?

Plus it's ugly and drags the tone of the whole place down.



Now,there's an idea.....if you want to paint the kids, then fire away.....at least they can have a bath afterwards......or you can "tag" them, so that their useless parents can remember their names given that they haven't seen them all day while they were out "tagging".

Yes it is vandalism but it happens and if i want to look at it as a piece of art its up to me.. you say its ugly i think its beautiful.. much more beautiful than out of work cranes, building sites and closed shops.. i guess its horses for courses.. although i realise its breaking the law and should not be done.. these days id rather tag in photoshop..

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Maybe there'd be less cleaning of the park required if scumbags didn't tag it ?

WTF??
Sher we could say that about everything.. sher there would be more grass on the fields if nobody played soccer on em..

MissHoneyBun

This kinda crap sickens me. In a city of innumerable social issues, the Batmans of the world decide to make graffiti their top priority :rolleyes: It's a shame their altruism didn't extend to picking up litter or sharing their paint with the many derelict buildings around the place. No, these philistines would rather spend their time removing artwork as opposed to actually doing something more constructive. God knows there are any amount of things that could do with being removed around here before focking graffiti.

Roadend

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Maybe there'd be less cleaning of the park required if scumbags didn't tag it ?

Ah what are you on about, its perfectly acceptable to litter and tag when you know its someone's job to clean up after you...........

Liam Byrne

Stab*City wrote: »

Yes it is vandalism but it happens and if i want to look at it as a piece of art its up to me

You're entitled to, if you want, however you are not entitled to deface other people's property. Tag away in your own backyard, or buy a derelict site and work away to your heart's content there.

What would you say if I viewed a scratch along the side of your car as "art", and decided to go ahead and do that art ?

If "taggers" want to tag their own property, then fire away.

Are you seriously telling me that the scrawl defacing the new flyover at Dooradoyle does anything other than make a brand new bridge look derelict and tacky ?

Stab*City

Liam Byrne wrote: »

You're entitled to, if you want, however you are not entitled to deface other people's property. Tag away in your own backyard, or buy a derelict site and work away to your heart's content there.

What would you say if I viewed a scratch along the side of your car as "art", and decided to go ahead and do that art ?

If "taggers" want to tag their own property, then fire away.

Hey we could go around quoting the laws all day thats not going to stop the kids with markers.. And in a city where there is absolutely nothing for teenagers to do we are lucky if thats all they are up to..

Thats a good point though i wonder what would happen if i took a spray can to my own house.. what would the neighbours say then.. (total imaginary scenario before anyone jumps down my throat)..

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Are you seriously telling me that the scrawl defacing the new flyover at Dooradoyle does anything other than make a brand new bridge look derelict and tacky ?

To tell ya the truth i didnt even notice it with the shock and awe of the placement/construction and overall look of that ugly bridge.. That bridge belongs on a motorway not in the middle of dooradoyle/ballinacura.. i hate that bridge so much that i would love to see it covered in beautiful art like the dock road was.. give the artists a canvas like that and a few quid we could possibly solve a number of problems..

but back on topic those guys who went around and covered the artwork with paint are just attention seekers.. it only made the problem worse.. the kids asked for skateparks we gave them skateparks now they rarley skate outside dunnes/taits.. let also give them other outlets for creativity maybe that might stem the rise of illegal outlets..

Liam Byrne

Stab*City wrote: »

And in a city where there is absolutely nothing for teenagers to do we are lucky if thats all they are up to..

I absolutely detest this cop-out. There was absolutely nothing for teenagers to do when I was growing up, and I didn't go around defacing property or any other anti-social behaviour.

Stab*City wrote: »

To tell ya the truth i didnt even notice it with the shock and awe of the placement/construction and overall look of that ugly bridge.. That bridge belongs on a motorway not in the middle of dooradoyle/ballinacura.. i hate that bridge so much

I'd agree - it's a woeful bridge. But making it look worse with some pathetic scrawl on it is not the answer.

Yes, the guys who painted over the actual art and murals are way out of order.........they'd have been better off painting over the stupid untidy scrawls and maybe even with paint-repellant "paint" so that no future tagging scrawling was possible.

jonski

Lads I am sure there are loads of threads discussing tagging versus graffiti .

This thread is about Graffiti being painted over in two areas that seem to have been set aside for this kind of art .

Stab*City

jonski wrote: »

Lads I am sure there are loads of threads discussing tagging versus graffiti .

This thread is about Graffiti being painted over in two areas that seem to have been set aside for this kind of art .

This is called back seat modding i received an infraction for this..

Also if you read my last post i did bring my discussion back on topic..:rolleyes:

And also liams last comments were inline with the thread topic.. maybe you should read the posts instead of putting your cv forward for a mods job..;)

Also liam people are different.. some people are not content with doing nothing..

jonski

Stab*City wrote: »

This is called back seat modding i received an infraction for this..

Also if you read my last post i did bring my discussion back on topic..:rolleyes:

And also liams last comments were inline with the thread topic.. maybe you should read the posts instead of putting your cv forward for a mods job..;)

Also liam people are different.. some people are not content with doing nothing..

Nah , actually ye posted those last two posts while I was replying ..... but nice deflection with the olde Looking for the mod job . You couldn't pay me enough to do it .

Liam Byrne

Stab*City wrote: »

Also liam people are different.. some people are not content with doing nothing..

I would argue that most people are "not content with doing nothing"....

....however decent people don't break the law in order to "do something".

Stab*City

Liam Byrne wrote: »

I would argue that most people are "not content with doing nothing"....

....however decent people don't break the law in order to "do something".

Decent people break the law all the time..

MissHoneyBun

Liam Byrne wrote: »

....however decent people don't break the law in order to "do something".

Ah give us a break Liam, you need to choose your battles and your angst is seriously misplaced on this one.

There are any amount of threads in this forum with adults highlighting the lack of things to do in this city so of course the same is true for teenagers. And given the amount of pre-pubescent skanks I regularly witness outside my window, I think the skateboarder kids aren't doing too badly at all. In fact, I'd go as far as saying they bring a bit of positive energy to the area but seeing as they aren't wielding hurls or rugby balls they're immediately frowned upon by the narrow minds of many.

Funny how people who comment on issues of genuine concern around here are accused of Limerick negativity yet it's ok to get het up over something as innocuous as a bit of graffiti.

Liam Byrne

MissHoneyBun wrote: »

There are any amount of threads in this forum with adults highlighting the lack of things to do in this city so of course the same is true for teenagers.

Yup. No argument. Doesn't excuse choosing crime and vandalism though.

MissHoneyBun wrote: »

And given the amount of pre-pubescent skanks I regularly witness outside my window, I think the skateboarder kids aren't doing too badly at all. In fact, I'd go as far as saying they bring a bit of positive energy to the area but seeing as they aren't wielding hurls or rugby balls they're immediately frowned upon by the narrow minds of many.

Hold on a second....what are you accusing me of objecting to ?

I've no problem with skateboarders.....fair play to them.

MissHoneyBun wrote: »

Funny how people who comment on issues of genuine concern around here are accused of Limerick negativity yet it's ok to get het up over something as innocuous as a bit of graffiti.

Proper graffiti like what was unfortunately covered up - I agree.

But vandals making buildings, walls and bridges look ****e is worth getting annoyed about and is "of genuine concern", because (a) it makes the city look run-down and (b) it shows an underlying disrespect for other people's property, and no qualms about damaging it, which is a serious issue.

Nockz

People play hurling/soccer/rugby in pitches. Take away the pitch and they play where they can. Where that ends up is where property gets damaged and/or people get annoyed and rightfully so, BUT so do the players who would gladly play if they had a pitch.

I think you can see my point

Liam Byrne

Nockz wrote: »

People play hurling/soccer/rugby in pitches. Take away the pitch and they play where they can. Where that ends up is where property gets damaged and/or people get annoyed and rightfully so, BUT so do the players who would gladly play if they had a pitch.

I think you can see my point

No, because there's a massive difference between damaged caused by accident (as a result of playing) and damage caused wilfully (setting out to deface property).