Bullies taking my career

extendedcut

So here is the problem. I work in a shop in Cork City with managers who only want to bully and show how important and clever they are. I admit managing a isle of dog food is very important. All the managers are bullies and completely walk all over me. I suppose it could be me and my body language. Well I have a degree in commerce from UCC (I GRADUATED LAST YEAR) but couldn’t find work so ended up working here. Ps I am a girl and have never been a bitch so hate bitches (excuse my bad language) Anyway I hate politics too and hate how people get better shifts and promotions just because of whose arse they lick. I want to be appreciated for my ability to do the job.

I never really though about careers during college so I am now considering a career in banking maybe either Cork, Dublin or London. I think I would love a big city as it is so anomous with large salaries and glamour and that.

So with this all taken in, what areas of banking are interesting, with large salaries and that I would be able to climb up the ladder quick that will enable me to afford the lifestyle that I really want where there are no bullying managers and no politics involved in Cork or Dublin or London and more important what companies.

Could ye give me ideas about the different areas of banking too plez and also how to deal with these bullies managers apart and office politics apart from going the hr department - hr and managers are realy on one side tanks.

Mildred

tommyhaas

Theres plenty of very well paid, glamorous jobs out there at the moment, with rapid promotional prospects, particularly in the banking sector. I hear they're looking for people with zero experience in the sector to fill these positions too. Thank god were not in the middle of a recession with mass unemployment or anything.

Dont mean to be harsh or anything, but you'v got start somewhere, man up a bit, dont let people get at you. As a recent graduate your lucky to have a job

kmick

Mildred if you dont like politics then banking is not for you. If you are currently finding it difficult to deal with people then you have to change your way of dealing with them.

There is no such thing as a high paying, quick promoting, easy fix job in this world - people generally get promoted due to hard work. Also banking is not a boom sector right now.

Good luck with whatever you try your hand at.

Cuddlesworth

You are never going to get a job where you don't have to deal with people and you are never going to move up without being able to.

What you will find is it will be a better experience outside of stocking the shelves at a huge shop. I only ever met one good manager at that crap work, the others were too nice or were assholes.

dbran

Moved from accountancy as this is a more appropriate forum.

pitkan

Mildred, I find it hard to understand that you have graduated from college with the spelling mistakes in your post. A lot of young people do not understand the concept of low wages for beginners and your dream of being paid high wages for low work should be knocked on the head. You may still be on probation in your present work and, if so, this is not the time to stand up to the bullies that you refer to. Look at it this way, you have a job (as bad as it is) and while there look for other work. I have found that it seems to be easier for a worker to get another job than it is for an unemployed person to do so.
You dont say if your employers are a chain store but I have also found it very difficult to work in a family run business. You already have this job to put on your c.v. and perhaps if you have done work experience in transition year at school, then include that also. Good luck.

pitkan

pitkan wrote: »

Mildred, I find it hard to understand that you have graduated from college with the spelling mistakes in your post.

Because you graduated college with an A in spelling?


Mildred , this is your first job i take it ? Really do you want a career at that place ? I think you should aim higher and put up with the crap that is going on there. Your still young and you are going to run into other issues like this. Learn from it take it in and as you mature in the working sector , you will be able to handle these situations better.

Viper_JB

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Because you graduated college with an A in spelling?


Mildred , this is your first job i take it ? Really do you want a career at that place ? I think you should aim higher and put up with the crap that is going on there. Your still young and you are going to run into other issues like this. Learn from it take it in and as you mature in the working sector , you will be able to handle these situations better.

Great advise here...everyone has to work a sh!t job at least once in their lives, it's character building and an important stepping stone into a normal working life. Problem is Mildred in alot of these places people get comfortable - starting working there young and end up being managers with no people skills because they were there long enough, they treat people like crap because it was how they were treated when they were in that position themselves and lack the education to know better. I'd advise stick it out and keep on looking for something a bit less soul distroying.

dudara

Threads moved and merged

OP - please start one thread only on a given topic. Do not clog up the forum with multiple versions of the same thread.

dudara

Trashbat

Hey OP,

If you're looking to get into the banking sector, the best advice would be to enter through the graduate programmes (not sure how these work in Ireland, but they're pretty straight forward, and widely available in London). Generally these pay pretty well (between 28-32k Stirling starting out), and will not overly focus on previous work experiencem, like the private sector normally will, but be advised, your degree may not be considered specialist enough (I presume its straight com, from your post, so unless you have a very good 1st, then you might be in trouble.

Failing that, how about trainee accountancy. Some of the big companies hire from a wide range of backgrounds (I know of someone with a standard BA doing this). Be warned though, the workload is very high, although the future rewards are good if you put the effort in.

Best thing to do is take the bull by the hrons and go out and look for the work.

Good Luck

tenchi-fan

You work in a shop and you think managers are going to be better in big companies?! Guess again. It won't just be managers who have it in for you, it will be your colleagues, and when you progress up the company a little the people below you will have it in for you too!

I'm not trying to be mean. No matter what job you work in there'll always be someone who has it in for you - who'll put you down to make themselves feel better.

You just need to have confidence in yourself that you are doing the best you can. Stay out of politics. But don't be afraid to defend yourself and don't let people walk over you.

As for the high paid job. I have a 2.1 business degree, acca professional exams, 3.5 years accounting experience and I'm still looking for a well paid job, not one that just pays the bills! I was as naive as you when I left college with my business degree, only to start work on €12000 in an accounting practice - less than minimum wage, and less than what I was earning in the cinema, supermarket, and any other part-time job. BTW around 90 other people applied for 2 jobs..
I know another chap who just qualified as an accountant and is only on €24k.


Still, no harm to aim high!

Magenta

extendedcut wrote: »

So here is the problem. I work in a shop in Cork City with managers who only want to bully and show how important and clever they are.I admit managing a isle of dog food is very important.

That sounds pretty snobbish for a start.

extendedcut wrote: »

All the managers are bullies and completely walk all over me. I suppose it could be me and my body language.

It probably is. We are treated based on our behaviour. Stand up for yourself.

extendedcut wrote: »

Well I have a degree in commerce from UCC (I GRADUATED LAST YEAR)

Great, I GRADUATED 4 YEARS AGO. I don't know why you needed to put emphasis on that part.

extendedcut wrote: »

Ps I am a girl and have never been a bitch so hate bitches (excuse my bad language)

extendedcut wrote: »

I admit managing a isle of dog food is very important.

You have never been a bitch but you do make nasty comments.

extendedcut wrote: »

Anyway I hate politics too and hate how people get better shifts and promotions just because of whose arse they lick. I want to be appreciated for my ability to do the job.

There is ass licking and there is networking, do you know the difference?

extendedcut wrote: »

I never really though about careers during college so I am now considering a career in banking maybe either Cork, Dublin or London. I think I would love a big city as it is so anomous with large salaries and glamour and that.

You have no experience and by your own admission have never even thought about what career you want. Has nobody told you that "entry level" is not well paid? You start at the bottom and work your way up. I'm not sure if that was mentioned in last month's Cosmopolitan magazine.

extendedcut wrote: »

So with this all taken in, what areas of banking are interesting, with large salaries and that I would be able to climb up the ladder quick that will enable me to afford the lifestyle that I really want where there are no bullying managers and no politics involved in Cork or Dublin or London and more important what companies.

If you don't want to deal with politics or bullying managers, then don't work with other people.

Why don't you look up all this career info yourself?

It sounds to me like you are living in your own Cosmopolitan magazine, Sex and the City world and expect everything to be handed to you.

-You never bothered planning your future
-Never bothered finding out what your degree will qualify you for
-Never bothered even trying to learn how to deal with people
-Think you are too good for the job you have
-Think that an employer is going to give a "glamourous, high salaried" job to somebody with 0 experience who appears to hate any form of politics (guess what, they're everywhere).

dermothickey

To the OP, I suggest go to the library and take out a few books on Management and leadership skills. Equip yourself with the understanding of how Managers think. Learn about supervisory roles and there place in the workplace. Find out more about yourself in terms of what you can do to become more acquainted with dealing with managers.

With more understanding of managers, then watch out how to play the game in work without becoming part of the politics.

tenchi-fan

dermothickey wrote: »

Learn about supervisory roles and there place in the workplace.

This is actually a pretty good point. Supervisors are often only one grade above entry level employees and often get to that level by being really good at the entry level job.

dermothickey

tenchi-fan wrote: »

This is actually a pretty good point. Supervisors are often only one grade above entry level employees and often get to that level by being really good at the entry level job.

Back when I was 18 or so (left school at 15) I hated authority a part of me use to cringe when told to do something or if someone effed me out of it. So by the time I reached 18 started to read books on leadership, moved on then to reading all the supervisory management books for the courses run by the IMI (never sat the course mind) then all the new age management books etc.

This gave me a very deep insight in to the role of managers/supervisors. Sure, I met lots of people who couldnt manage a pissup in a brewery yet came across a few who had all the qualities and could communicate to you easily. By the time I got in to a leadership role I took to it like duck to water.