Amhrán na bhFiann at the end of the night

mikemac

I've no doubt this was raised before but I've not seen it.

The two nightclubs in our town switch up the lights and play this at the end of the night. For as long as I've been going there it's always done.
And people stand quietly and cast dirty looks at the few people still chatting.
This is the midlands, not some border town.
Plenty of pubs do too but not all.

As for weddings in the local hotel when I was barman, maybe 50% do it.

But being in Galway, Limerick or Dublin it doesn't tend to be played at the end of the night.
Is this a rural tradition so? Does it go on in your local area?

Run_to_da_hills

Definitally, its a statement in itself, last tune, shut up and get out.

i once heard it played three times in a row in co Tipperary because some idiot at the back wouldnt STFU and stand for it , he eventually got the message.Proper order.

KeithM89_old

Could be worse, a place i used to go played the song from Cheers at the end of the night

caseyann

Yep in dublin outskirts
Dirty looks though god no,if you dont stand for it and chat you are in huge trouble :mad:

DavidCochrane

I used to live in Celbridge and whenever the dj was on (Fridays and Saturdays) it would be played at the end of the night, and I happened to be back recently and again DJ was playing it. Everyone got up, hands behind backs, and some would sing along (depending on how much beer taken).

Odd. So odd.

Now, if I could sing Ireland's call that'd be another thing....... but not in Kildare!

SoupyNorman

DJ in the local nightclub in college used to say "Please stand to attention for the national anthem" - then he played 'My lovely horse'. Was hilarious the first time...not so funny the subsequent 4 years.

starbelgrade

feelingstressed wrote: »

I've no doubt this was raised before but I've not seen it.

The two nightclubs in our town switch up the lights and play this at the end of the night. For as long as I've been going there it's always done.
And people stand quietly and cast dirty looks at the few people still chatting.
This is the midlands, not some border town.
Plenty of pubs do too but not all.

As for weddings in the local hotel when I was barman, maybe 50% do it.

But being in Galway, Limerick or Dublin it doesn't tend to be played at the end of the night.
Is this a rural tradition so? Does it go on in your local area?

The bit in red says it all.

mikemac

starbelgrade wrote: »

The bit in red says it all.

Well I did ask about your area and I did point out a possible rural/urban divide. Well city/town difference to be more exact

So what's your area and does it go on?

starbelgrade

feelingstressed wrote: »

Well I did ask about your area and I did point out a possible rural/urban divide. Well city/town difference to be more exact

So what's your area and does it go on?

I've lived on different parts of the coast for the years I've lived in Ireland & haven't heard it played at a club in over 15 years.

parker kent

starbelgrade wrote: »

I've lived on different parts of the coast for the years I've lived in Ireland & haven't heard it played at a club in over 15 years.

I've heard it in Wicklow and a few times in Dublin

lalee17

I don't get this, why do pubs, etc. do it?

starbelgrade

parker kent wrote: »

I've heard it in Wicklow and a few times in Dublin

Wherever there are skangers...

df1985

DavidCochrane wrote: »

I used to live in Celbridge and whenever the dj was on (Fridays and Saturdays) it would be played at the end of the night, and I happened to be back recently and again DJ was playing it. Everyone got up, hands behind backs, and some would sing along (depending on how much beer taken).

Odd. So odd.

Now, if I could sing Ireland's call that'd be another thing....... but not in Kildare!

can i ask where in celbridge?? I'm in leixlip and never heard it in leixlip/maynooth/celbridge or anywhere round here.

Only place ive heard it was in a club in cavan, very close to the border. I think ive heard it at the odd wedding/21st etc too but thats down to the hired dj, not the venue.

efb

I was out one night and this guyplayed it on his guitar in a Hendrix 'Star Spangled Banner' stylee-and that was the midlands too!

alwaysadub

Haven't heard it out in years-didn't think it still went on tbh!!

El Siglo

It's such a come down at the end of the night, everyone drunk and standing to attention like it's a 1916 commemoration...:rolleyes:
Funny enough, the only place I've had this experience was back home...





In the midlands!:D

Bodhisopha

The only place i have ever heard this at the end of the night was... the midlands.

The Gibzilla

Does anyone know if any other nations have this tradition? I've never heard a national anthem at the end of the night anywhere else but here...

I've heard it in Dublin a fair bit and heard a DJ playing "Ambhran Na bhFiann" and "Ireland's Call" back to back... it's an old, tacky tradition IMO

The_Minister

lalee17 wrote: »

I don't get this, why do pubs, etc. do it?

People tend to be feeling nobel and patriotic afterwards = less trouble to get to leave.

babyfratelli_x

There are 3 niteclubs in the part of Donegal I live in, and they play it in every single one of them, at the end of every nite without fail.
Thought it was the norm tbh till I went to college in Galway and realised after about a year that not once had I heard the national anthem! I just took it for granted really.

thebman

I'm from the midlands and I've heard it in plenty of places mentioned on this thread that people say it isn't played.

I've also heard it played in the midlands. I think there are a lot of people trying to fit the trend here TBH.

milly4ever

they played this the first time i was in a nightclub in newry- didn't know what you were supposed to do!

starbelgrade

milly4ever wrote: »

they played this the first time i was in a nightclub in newry- didn't know what you were supposed to do!

The robot.

artanevilla

There is a time and a place for our national anthem, a nightclub is not it. It is a song that should get reverence and respect, a nightclub doesn't grant it that.

milly4ever

artanevilla wrote: »

There is a time and a place for our national anthem, a nightclub is not it. It is a song that should get reverence and respect, a nightclub doesn't grant it that.

i agree, that's why i felt uncomfortable at it being played when everyone was drunk.

Pauleta

It was played at a 21st i was at last night. Everyone ignored it, including myself. I wanted Guns n Roses :mad:

lalee17

It's outdated bullshit IMO.

GLaDOS

Gets played in Quinns at the end of the night, never pay any attention to it myself, strikes me as a bit odd.

Rowley Birkin QC

I think it's a nice tradition.

Einhard

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Definitally, its a statement in itself, last tune, shut up and get out.

i once heard it played three times in a row in co Tipperary because some idiot at the back wouldnt STFU and stand for it , he eventually got the message.Proper order.

Why should he stand if he doesn't want to? He might have been foreign, Protestant or, like many, just didn't want to have some faux patriotic bull**** shoved down his throat in the middle of a nightclub. I always find it funny when I see some of those so assidious in standing in respecting the anthem, are often the first to give the gaurds **** outside the club.

ottostreet

i work as a full-time DJ, and get around to my fair share of venues around the country for various events. I would NEVER play the national anthem. I dont even have it any more. The last time I was asked to play it was actually only about two weeks ago in Athlone.

The only place it belongs to is in some GAA influenced gig, where such things are seen as the norm, rather than the exception.

EuskalHerria

Einhard wrote: »

Why should he stand if he doesn't want to? He might have been foreign, Protestant or, like many, just didn't want to have some faux patriotic bull**** shoved down his throat in the middle of a nightclub. I always find it funny when I see some of those so assidious in standing in respecting the anthem, are often the first to give the gaurds **** outside the club.

What has that to do with anything? What matters a persons religion when a national anthem comes on?

I agree a nightclub at the end of a night is not the place to play the national anthem.

Einhard

EuskalHerria wrote: »

What has that to do with anything? What matters a persons religion when a national anthem comes on?

I agree a nightclub at the end of a night is not the place to play the national anthem.

Nothing generally, but I know an Anglican who is quite uncomfortable with Amhran na bhfiann and what he considers its somewhat xenophobic tone. It's not exactly the most inclusive of anthems in fairness.

I have no problem where it's played, but I don't think anyone should feel compelled to stand for it.

df1985

Friends of mine were in a bar in belfast about a year ago, the night was going fine,they didnt think the bar was for either side, then god save the queen came on. they didnt have a clue what to do, barman came over and told them to stand up for their own good.

I know its old history to the majority and I wish everyone could move on and forget about the past but we do still live on a divided island with a violent history, and I think the playing of anthems all comes back to that.

No place for it in bars/clubs imo either though.

Xavi6

SoupyNorman wrote: »

DJ in the local nightclub in college used to say "Please stand to attention for the national anthem" - then he played 'My lovely horse'. Was hilarious the first time...not so funny the subsequent 4 years.

Everyone knows that the real national anthem is this -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ2oXzrnti4

Ruu_Old

Ah the Spinmaster!

liah

Happens a lot in Mullingar.

ElaElaElano

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Gets played in Quinns at the end of the night, never pay any attention to it myself, strikes me as a bit odd.

Yeah but Quinns is full of culchies.

OH I WENT THERE.

GLaDOS

ElaElaElano wrote: »

Yeah but Quinns is full of culchies.

OH I WENT THERE.

Ha, could be it alright

Dravokivich

starbelgrade wrote: »

I've lived on different parts of the coast for the years I've lived in Ireland & haven't heard it played at a club in over 15 years.

You lucky b*stard!

Lando Griffin

And its sung like this.....
Shin na finna fail
A thaw fian geal na heireann
Daoin sla slu la la la le la la la
La LA LA la la
hmmm hmm hm hm hmm hmmmm hm hmmm

sceptre

Einhard wrote: »

Nothing generally, but I know an Anglican who is quite uncomfortable with Amhran na bhfiann and what he considers its somewhat xenophobic tone. It's not exactly the most inclusive of anthems in fairness.

Very few of them are. The UK one makes explicit reference to crushing the Scots, the French one implicit reference to kicking the Austrian and Prussian armies out of France (and none too nicely), the US one celebrates blowing up of a few British boats in Chesapeake Bay, most of them are like hat. There aren't all that many "let's all have a cuddle and be happy together" national anthems. Besides, you'd never get them out of the club at the end of the night if you played that sort of thing.

caseyann

starbelgrade wrote: »

Wherever there are skangers...

So wicklow is full of skangers is it and all our grand father and grand mothers are skangers:rolleyes: So in order to be proud to be Irish we must be skangers,Guess that goes for every country in the world then who claim to be proud of their nationality.:P

PeterIanStaker

These seditious displays up and down the land must be cracked down upon.

Already a Brigade of Bengal Lancers from Dublin 4 commanded by the Rt Hon. Colonel Kevin Myers, KGB, VC, WAN KR, has been dispatched to this mysterious area outside The Pale, known to some as "the Midlands", in order to appropriately knout the credulous peasants and teach them some respect . . . . .

Run_to_da_hills

Better Amhran Na Bfiann than Ode to Joy.

caseyann

A tiny bit off topic but every time i am down in tramore etc... they sing the black and tans etc.. songs and once a load of English tourists were in the pub singing with us They also stood for our anthem

johngalway

Einhard wrote: »

Why should he stand if he doesn't want to? He might have been foreign, Protestant or, like many, just didn't want to have some faux patriotic bull**** shoved down his throat in the middle of a nightclub. I always find it funny when I see some of those so assidious in standing in respecting the anthem, are often the first to give the gaurds **** outside the club.

So if you're Protestant you can't be a citizen of the Republic of Ireland.

Glad I read this thread now :rolleyes:

Thepones

I have only come across this a few times. Once was at a wedding and some canadian girl who was with us didnt know what was going on and just kept dancing (big box-small box stylee)
Was hilarious on the video!

billymitchell

Happens every night in The Bird in Rialto. I'd rather it wasn't played as I find it a bit kitsch and out of place in a pub/nightclub, but I don't see any harm in it.

caroj

It's played in my local whenever they have music on. I do think it's abit odd as most ppl tend to ignore it or in my case kind of half slide off the stool with one leg on the ground pretending to stand and be respectful I do stop talking thought!

Nodin

Einhard wrote: »

Nothing generally, but I know an Anglican who is quite uncomfortable with Amhran na bhfiann and what he considers its somewhat xenophobic tone. It's not exactly the most inclusive of anthems in fairness.

I have no problem where it's played, but I don't think anyone should feel compelled to stand for it.

Theres no protestant bashing in it.