Splinter cell conviction

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Hey guys ,

Im just looking at what you guys think of this game ?
Im looking at trading in the new ufc game against this and wondering what the general consensus is on the game ? I enjoy metal gear solid EXCEPT for ALL THE MOVIES ! !

jenno86

Played it a few weeks ago. Really enjoyed it, one player is a bit on the short side tho, make sure to play it on Realistic. But there is a totally different co-op campaign too. Very satisfying killing people from the shadows.

calex71

As above but I got no joy from co-up unless playing with people from my friends list or one's I know.

grimm2005

got this in zavvi's mega monday sale the other week for 20 squid, am really enjoying it atm. As jenno says it's really satisfying executing kills without anyone noticing. Also the co-op mode is really fun, and there are a handful of other MP modes also. I'd definitly recommend it

nevaeh-2die-4

Played it , didn’t like it much , graphics were desperate .

In general the game felt dated, didn’t feel like it progressed in the series

Moiph

Loved it! Would recommend picking it up.

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love it, i actually got the original xbox all thos years go for splinter cell, being a big fan since, loved this one, its way different from the other splinter cells but its a good improvement

if you like MGS you should like this... my xbox ruined the SC disc on me though, might pick it up again for cheap and finish the last co op level

wandatowell

grimm2005 wrote: »

got this in zavvi's mega monday sale the other week for 20 squid

Hells bells thats a great price, its 45.99 in the local xtravision.

Whats the story with co-op? Is it all tactical or how does it work??

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sounds good i think i may pick it up today or tomorrow , thanks.

weiland79

This will be the first Xbox game i buy. Just as soon as the 16th rolls in.

Can't wait.....!

Grumpypants

zavvi have it in the mega monday sale 22.99 i think well worth it. Great game a little more Jack Bauer than Sam fisher not totally a bad thing.

Vyse

One of the best games I've played for ages. Absolutely loved the co-op mode.

grimm2005

wandatowell wrote: »

Hells bells thats a great price, its 45.99 in the local xtravision.

Whats the story with co-op? Is it all tactical or how does it work??

and it's back again this week: http://www.zavvi.com/games/platforms/xbox-360/tom-clancy-s-splinter-cell-conviction/10047707.html

co-op is pretty much the same as single player except it has it's own story and is customised for 2 people to play through. There's also a few other co-op mp modes

djkeogh

I loved this game. I hadn't really played a splinter cell game before so I was new to the series. Great gameplay and using tactics and gadgets to clear out a room undetected was brilliant.

The game is short but if you play on Realistic difficulty you should probably get about 7 hours out of single player. If you have a buddy (like i did) then the game doubles in value as there are some great Co-op modes in the game as well.

I'd say 4 star as a single player game and 5 star if you have a friend to play through the co-op with.

robbeardsley

I'm not an avid SC player, but it's a very good game. Better than any other one I've played. Co-op mode is very good, so long as you're paired with someone who's half-decent at the game.

weiland79

I'm just a bit confused about how this game is meant to be played. Is it supposed to be a full on action game or stealth. Cause it doesn't seem to be very stealthy

ironictoaster

weiland79 wrote: »

I'm just a bit confused about how this game is meant to be played. Is it supposed to be a full on action game or stealth. Cause it doesn't seem to be very stealthy

Stealth. However, if you do get caught they give you better options to fight back.

I enjoyed the game and can see why they had to change the gameplay up a bit. They couldn't continue using the same formula over and over again. Co-op is great as well.

weiland79

Agreed that more of the same would have been boring, but I'm on the second level at the mo and i don't even have a silenced weapon which seems odd. I kind of feel like I'm playing Socom in this level.

DirkVoodoo

Loved the original splinter cells, this is less of a stealth game but still very enjoyable. The use of the execution mechanic pretty much forces you to engage enemies, it never gets old but it's nearly impossible to play the game without entering into combat. You can still kill quietly, but if you enjoyed simply sneaking past enemies or utilizing some of Sam's high tech arsenal (my favourite aspect), that's mostly gone.

I rented it, it's a perfect rental game really. Short campaign, loaded with quality and a great co-op mode. There isn't really much more to the game than that, it's well executed (ho-ho) but it's more Die Hard than Bourne Identity.

DirkVoodoo

weiland79 wrote: »

I'm just a bit confused about how this game is meant to be played. Is it supposed to be a full on action game or stealth. Cause it doesn't seem to be very stealthy

You can play it anyway you want. A good guide is to look at the unlockable stuff, if you try and complete those in game challenges it will show you how to play the game properly and you will get some nice kit in the process.

ironictoaster

Essentially the game is like 24-esque now.

Especially in that level in which

you're chasing that guy in Washington.

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DirkVoodoo wrote: »

Loved the original splinter cells, this is less of a stealth game but still very enjoyable. The use of the execution mechanic pretty much forces you to engage enemies, it never gets old but it's nearly impossible to play the game without entering into combat. You can still kill quietly, but if you enjoyed simply sneaking past enemies or utilizing some of Sam's high tech arsenal (my favourite aspect), that's mostly gone.

I rented it, it's a perfect rental game really. Short campaign, loaded with quality and a great co-op mode. There isn't really much more to the game than that, it's well executed (ho-ho) but it's more Die Hard than Bourne Identity.

yeah didnt like it at first but i got used to it, it is kinda fun, i used to love sneaking past gaurds and traps and timing stuff right instead of just going balls out and killing people, it is prety much 24

weiland79

I'm just at the Middle east level.

Is it possible to get through sectons without alerting or engaging enemies. I'm playing on realistic.

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weiland79 wrote: »

I'm just at the Middle east level.

Is it possible to get through sectons without alerting or engaging enemies. I'm playing on realistic.

Awsome-o

not sure, i think you have to engage in combat in almost every situation

RobertFoster

weiland79 wrote: »

Is it possible to get through sectons without alerting or engaging enemies. I'm playing on realistic.

That's the biggest departure from the old Splinter Cells. You can get through without alerts, but you generally have to engage enemies (mark and execute) to progress. The mission you're on now is quite combat heavy from what I remember.

I miss being able to go through a whole mission sneakily without much combat, but I guess the mark and execute stuff is a nice addition.

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same i used to love timing your runs and watching the gaurds to plan the best route around, first time i had to engage in combat i spent ages trying to figure out how to get around without having to engage in it, but you get used to it

weiland79

RobertFoster wrote: »

That's the biggest departure from the old Splinter Cells. You can get through without alerts, but you generally have to engage enemies (mark and execute) to progress. The mission you're on now is quite combat heavy from what I remember.

I miss being able to go through a whole mission sneakily without much combat, but I guess the mark and execute stuff is a nice addition.

I haven't really gotten into the mark and execute system yet.
I've been trying to play it like the previous games.

I had a quick look at a walkthrough for that level, and they recommend that you don't bother with stealth, and that you just blast your way through.
Which is a little dissapointing for a SC title.

Mr. K

I enjoyed Conviction, but it was a bit too different from previous SC games. There weren't enough pure stealth moments; Sam's perfectly capable of killing everyone.

As a 24 fan, I loved the action. The Mark and Execute system is a bit too much of a win button, but it's a seriously satisfying one!

Connavar

I would of liked to have been a bit more forced to play stealthily.
I ended up just shooting everyone whenever I got a bit stuck which you simply couldn't get away with(unless extremely lucky) in the old games

thorbarry

Connavar wrote: »

I would of liked to have been a bit more forced to play stealthily.
I ended up just shooting everyone whenever I got a bit stuck which you simply couldn't get away with(unless extremely lucky) in the old games

yea i agree, while i thought it was a great game, I found it way to hard to play stealthy on in some parts

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yeah combat situations was pretty hard in the old one, but usually got away with it, got stuck on some bits for a long time, especially that level where you have to rescue the chinese hostages in the barn/stable in a previous game, i only saved it a few mins prior to it and had almost zero health and got stuck for a good 30 mins doing the same bit about 15 times

i only played every splinter cell prior to the new one coming out so i'd get the story back, turns out almost everything in the previous games was pretty irrelevant for the new one, oh well not a bad change, just a different way of playing

wandatowell

Mr. K wrote: »

I enjoyed Conviction, but it was a bit too different from previous SC games. There weren't enough pure stealth moments; Sam's perfectly capable of killing everyone.

As a 24 fan, I loved the action. The Mark and Execute system is a bit too much of a win button, but it's a seriously satisfying one!

Spot on, cudnt have said it any better

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so what is the best stealth game to buy then ? What is the xbox360 answer to MGS ?

thorbarry

Sarge wrote: »

so what is the best stealth game to buy then ? What is the xbox360 answer to MGS ?

Assassin's Creed II is pretty awesome

djkeogh

Great game but hardly much of a stealth game. Sure you can sneak up and knife a guy but then everyone around you is alerted so not really satisfying from a stealth point of view.

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djkeogh wrote: »

Great game but hardly much of a stealth game. Sure you can sneak up and knife a guy but then everyone around you is alerted so not really satisfying from a stealth point of view.

so is there any ?? Im so tempted to throw on MSG now , but will feel dirty going back to the ps3 :-)

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Yes there is moments of stealthness, but there is situations where you have to engage in combat, a lot more so than the other games in the series, in the older games, you had way more chocies of sneaking or getting into combat situations, depends how patient you are i guess, i like to sneak past with as little damage as possible!

but when you do get into a gun fight the controlls are a lot easier to work with, in the older games it could be over in seconds by the time u select the weapon and device u wanted to use and it was just more flimsy, but i kinda liked it, it encouraged to be more stealthy!

quarryman

Finished this last night on Realistic on my 3rd sitting. Loved it!

One of the best games I've played in a long time. 9/10.

One negative was the poxy COD-style FPS level. Why make a stealth based game and then throw in some run and gun?

I had played some of the older titles on the original Xbox and despite a lot being changed for this one (most of) the changes were welcome. I loved the Execute maneuver. Got me out of a hole once or twice.

Looking forward to the next one!

Optimalprimerib

One problem i have with the splinter cell games and all tom clancy's games for that matter is that i really dont give a sh1t about the story in them or the characters.

I love the splinter cell games and this one is no exception, but the story is soo dull.

imitation

I hated conviction, its completely contrary to the rest of the games of the series. The other games were about sneaking, getting close and carefully taking out people, and trying `to run away like a school girl if you were caught. Conviction just felt like a dumbed down stealth shooter. The fights varied from boringly taking out 2 or 3 guys with ease, to frustrating repeat fests where you get pinned down by 5-6 guys.

ironictoaster

Optimalprimerib wrote: »

One problem i have with the splinter cell games and all tom clancy's games for that matter is that i really dont give a sh1t about the story in them or the characters.

I love the splinter cell games and this one is no exception, but the story is soo dull.

It not really dull, the storyline in this game tied in with double agent. Also, the part where

Sam is talking to Grim about Lambert lying about the death of his daughter was pretty good.

imitation wrote: »

I hated conviction, its completely contrary to the rest of the games of the series. The other games were about sneaking, getting close and carefully taking out people, and trying `to run away like a school girl if you were caught. Conviction just felt like a dumbed down stealth shooter. The fights varied from boringly taking out 2 or 3 guys with ease, to frustrating repeat fests where you get pinned down by 5-6 guys.

You can't expect them to keep releasing SC with the same formula over and over again.

If anyone wants a decent stealth game, you should all try out the Thief games for the PC. Splinter cell took many ideas from these games.

imitation

creggy wrote: »

You can't expect them to keep releasing SC with the same formula over and over again.

Its actually funny, but for once I would like a big game studio to release a game with the same formula again. Shoot em ups are constantly churned out with small twists in the game play and people still buy them (myself included) Good sneak em ups are rare however, and in my books all they did was take conviction from the sneak em up pile to the shooter with a twist pile.

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i woulda liked a similar style of game as previous games, it was a bit different from the normal shoot em ups and thats what i kinda liekd about it, i didnt really mind the new one but not what i expected

Floppybits

Gotta say am liking playing this game. I like run and gun but also like some stealth so this is perfect for me. Never played any of the other splinter cell games before as not a big lover to stealth games.

Got through a few levels last night, loved the fairground part. Great game for the summer before the big releases come out. Loving the execute mode.

corcaigh07

anyone up for doing some CO-OP? im finished with Single-Player but would love to complete Co-Op as well

v3ttel

Enjoyed this game a lot, but tbh, I completely lost the story towards the end. Maybe its the fact that I've never played any of the other Splinter Cell games.

Captain Average

Rooney10 wrote: »

Enjoyed this game a lot, but tbh, I completely lost the story towards the end. Maybe its the fact that I've never played any of the other Splinter Cell games.

You've missed out on some quality games. You should pick them up and play them. They really are excellent.

v3ttel

Captain Average wrote: »

You've missed out on some quality games. You should pick them up and play them. They really are excellent.

I'd like to at some point. I'm slowly working my way through a backlog, Alan Wake, Crackdown 2, the Saboteur & Kane and Lynch 2.

I knew the Splinter Cell games were about stealth before, so every time I was spotted in Conviction, it really felt like I was just sh*t at the game. Although, I wonder how possible it is to avoid engaging some enemies.

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it would be kinda weird actually playing the first few splinter cells after playing this one, the gameplay is pretty difference! i miss the sneaky ness!