tyres

katie2

hi guys i need a new set of tyres for my car. its a 03 gtdti golf. there is 17' alloys on it. my mechanic said tyres can be got cheap online.. dose anyone know where??

also what would be a good tyre for the car? one that wears well and has good grip. i dont want to have to spend too much maybe 400-450 but i dont want crap tyres either.. drive on a lot of back roads if thats any odds

thanks
katie

pdiddy

try www.camskill.co.uk

shanemc1

http://www.eiretyres.com German based company but very reliable and cheap. Only problem is fitting and balancing them. You should price that first as people can charge up to €10 a corner to fit them. I would be more inclined to go for the cheapest tyre's if you drive on backroads as your more likely to damage them!.

bazz26

shanemc1 wrote: »

http://www.eiretyres.com German based company but very reliable and cheap. Only problem is fitting and balancing them. You should price that first as people can charge up to €10 a corner to fit them. I would be more inclined to go for the cheapest tyre's if you drive on backroads as your more likely to damage them!.

If you are travelling back roads then the cheapest tyres are the last thing you need unless you like ditches.

PaulKK

In every instance I have found that camskill are much cheaper than eiretyres.

I used to use eiretyres a few years ago and found them great but they just can't compete with camskill anymore.

e.g just picking a tyre that I have bought before:

Camskill:
http://camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m54b0s457p12916

£57 X 4 = £228 + £20 delivery = £248 = €300

Eiretyres:
http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?details=Ordern&cart_id=68790187.124.6655&typ=R-148787&ranzahl=4&Breite=205&Quer=45&Felge=17&Speed=W&weiter=0&kategorie=6&Ang_pro_Seite=15&Transport=P&dsco=124&sowigan=So

€100 X 4 = €400


OP since you didnt give a size I'm assuming you have a 205/45/17.

Suggest:

http://camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m54b0s457p12916
or
http://camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m54b0s457p6378

for your golf.

The falkens are all weather and have great threadlife and decent grip. I have the kumho at the moment and find them great too.

bazz26

I'd look at Vredestein too. A very good brand and reasonably priced.

MagicMarker

shanemc1 wrote: »

I would be more inclined to go for the cheapest tyre's if you drive on backroads as your more likely to damage them!.

Bizarre! In every sense of the word.

-Corkie-

Intresting thread. I sent my wifes passat for tyres and told the tyre man i didnt want to spend big money. She collected it and i seen the cheque for 280 euro. Turns out their sunny and triangle. He said he can change them to pirellis but they are 150 a corner:eek:. What difference would their be????

bazz26

Sunny and Triangle are absolutely rubbish, cheap Asian crap. I'd advise getting rid of them quickly. There are alot of decent mid range branded tyres out there like Falken, Kumho or Vredestein that don't cost the world.

-Corkie-

bazz26 wrote: »

Sunny and Triangle are absolutely rubbish, cheap Asian crap. I'd advise getting rid of them quickly. There are alot of decent mid range branded tyres out there like Falken, Kumho or Vredestein that don't cost the world.

Ill do that so, wanted an expert opinion:). Would a fella be better off getting the pirellis.

bazz26

SARASON wrote: »

Ill do that so, wanted an expert opinion:). Would a fella be better off getting the pirellis.

I'm not an expert by any means but any reviews I have read of Sunny or Triangles have been eye opening. If you are getting the Pirellis at a good price then go for them, they are a good high end brand. I'd price the others I've mentioned though too, they would probably just be as good on a family saloon like the Passat. I have Vrederstein Sporttrac 3 on my S40 at the moment and have no complaints.

katie2

thanks folks.. i think the size is 225-45-r17 would that make a differance??
i thought cheap tyres would have less grip wear quicker and be more prone to damage??

Neilw

katie2 wrote: »

thanks folks.. i think the size is 225-45-r17 would that make a differance??
i thought cheap tyres would have less grip wear quicker and be more prone to damage??

Just had two Goodyear eagle F1 asymmetric in that size fitted to my car last week. I think they were 135 euro a piece fitted and balanced.

shanemc1

MagicMarker wrote: »

Bizarre! In every sense of the word.

To be fair to meet the E mark requirement tyre's are generally safe at any price. Normally the only difference is wear, If you drive ignoring speed limits, hard into corner's etc these might not provide you with the grip you want. I don't want to get into an argument about brand name's vs budget name's etc but if you check around most budget tyres are made by premium companies. I fit 10-15 kormoran tyre's (made by michelin) a week which would be considered budget tyres and have never heard a complaint about grip.

Neilw

shanemc1 wrote: »

To be fair to meet the E mark requirement tyre's are generally safe at any price. Normally the only difference is wear, If you drive ignoring speed limits, hard into corner's etc these might not provide you with the grip you want. I don't want to get into an argument about brand name's vs budget name's etc but if you check around most budget tyres are made by premium companies. I fit 10-15 kormoran tyre's (made by michelin) a week which would be considered budget tyres and have never heard a complaint about grip.

What about in an emergency, you have to brake hard and steer to avoid something in the wet, I wouldn't like to have to do that on budget tyres. Premium tyres could be the difference between a close call and an accident.

PaulKK

katie2 wrote: »

thanks folks.. i think the size is 225-45-r17 would that make a differance??
i thought cheap tyres would have less grip wear quicker and be more prone to damage??

Usually cheap tyres would not have good grip in wet conditions, they could all wear differently really depending on what car they are on etc.


Here are the two I linked above in the size for your passat:

http://camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m54b0s16p12922

http://camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m54b0s16p2336

I am running the kumhos on a diesel saloon at the moment, they have a 300 thread wear index, which is better wearing than average, and they have good grip.



If you had more cash to spend you could try these:

http://camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m54b0s16p6205
or these
http://camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m54b0s16p48531

note that they more expensive, they will wear faster, but offer slightly better grip.

GTE

shanemc1 wrote: »

To be fair to meet the E mark requirement tyre's are generally safe at any price. Normally the only difference is wear, If you drive ignoring speed limits, hard into corner's etc these might not provide you with the grip you want. I don't want to get into an argument about brand name's vs budget name's etc but if you check around most budget tyres are made by premium companies. I fit 10-15 kormoran tyre's (made by michelin) a week which would be considered budget tyres and have never heard a complaint about grip.

I agree.

Indeed E marks do insure a minimum standard and thats great but I suppose the argument for premium brands is how much over that minimum standard do they go and how much you need to go over it in certain aspects.

But as you rightly point out not everyone needs a tyre that can handle the car to be chucked into corners hard. Braking could possibly be a grey area but again, the minimum standard is there so there should be no budget vs. premium debates unless its for performance driving.

katie2

thanks guys. got a quick look at camskil there today. they seem like good value. i know i will have to get them fitted after but that shouldnt be any more than 50?? i think i need to get something done with the steering too. my mechanic said something about tyres wearing on the inside?? something like 4 wheel laser lining??

whats the differance between tyres that have a grip like a v and others that are like half v if that makes sence?? there was two sets the same price and same numbers with a slight different model number i think made by the same crowd but one had a v pattern??
sorry for the bad discription but i dont no much about tyres!

Neilw

katie2 wrote: »

thanks guys. got a quick look at camskil there today. they seem like good value. i know i will have to get them fitted after but that shouldnt be any more than 50?? i think i need to get something done with the steering too. my mechanic said something about tyres wearing on the inside?? something like 4 wheel laser lining??

whats the differance between tyres that have a grip like a v and others that are like half v if that makes sence?? there was two sets the same price and same numbers with a slight different model number i think made by the same crowd but one had a v pattern??
sorry for the bad discription but i dont no much about tyres!

Fitting tyres is usually 15-20 per tyre including recycling fee for your old tyres.
It sounds like you need to get your cars tracking and 4 wheel alignment checked, this is usually about 50-60 euro's. After this the tyres should wear evenly.

V thread tyres are directional, there will be an arrow pointing the direction the tyres should be fitted. Only downside to directional tyres is if you want to rotate one side to the other.
There are also asymmetric tyres which have an inside and outside but are non directional. These can be swapped around without any problem.
As for grip, might not be much difference at all. Non directional tyres tend to have less road noise.

sean1141

take a look at hankook on camskil. i got a set of these last time around (evo 12s) and found them very good. got them in the same size as you need too! they were a bit less expencive when i got them last time!! sterling was weak at that time!!

nogoodnamesleft

The 225/45/R17 size tyres will rub off the inside (as far as i can remember) wishbone on the front of a B5.5 Passat as I noticed in the past evidence of rubbing. I switched to a 215/45/17 sized tyre for my rim.

GTE

Has anyone had experience with the CS4 Touring and CS6 tyres from Cooper?

I currently have a set of Coopers Zeon XTC (weird choice of name) on my Golf and I dont have any complaints and after a bit of googling they seem to get good reviews. The CS4 seems to be more motorway friendly in terms of noise. Though Im only going to be changing two tyres.

I admit its a bit of brand loyalty but Im scoping out my options at the moment.

Turns out the XTC one seem to be in Coopers upper ranges.