The summer has officially arrived in Belfast.

Elliemental

Oh dear, its' that time of year again. Rioting across west Belfast over the last few nights.
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artanevilla

It's fascist marching season!

Elliemental

artanevilla wrote: »

It's fascist marching season!

The marching bigots are enough to contend with on their own, but now that rent-a-mob has taken to the streets, its' only going to make the situation several times worse.

mikemac

artanevilla wrote: »

It's fascist marching season!

No marchers involved in this incident:

Ulster Unionist councillor Bob Stoker blamed republicans for Saturday night's trouble.

"Speaking to representatives from the nationalist community, it seems that a lot of people who would be associated with the dissident republican movement came across from the upper Donegall Road/St James area to attack young people in the Donegall Road area here.

"The police arrived a short time after to separate the crowds - that's when the rioting really kicked off," he said.

Sinn Fein's Briege Brownley said: "Last night some people in the area claimed they were down protecting the community basically against what they saw as a loyalist threat.

"Unfortunately this culminated then in criminal behaviour, which resulted in Kentucky Fried Chicken being damaged, cars being burnt and residents being abused.

"So what might have started off with noble intent ended up basically criminals gathering here from Divis, Ballymurphy and different places."

They attack the PSNI to protect their area from marching routes?

orourkeda

Grown men acting like children. Where else would you get it?

caseyann

Bob stoker shouldnt throw stones in glass houses

My name is URL

It's crap like this which makes me wish that the whole of the North could just be amputated and set adrift up towards the Arctic

Elliemental

My name is URL wrote: »

It's crap like this which makes me wish that the whole of the North could just be amputated and set adrift up towards the Arctic

Its' not all bad. I mean, what will the Republic do for Buckfast if the North is amputated?

Mike 1972

The location of this one (along the busiest road in the city) is pretty scary

Not that parade-associated rioting is peculiar to Belfast like.

Elliemental wrote: »

what will the Republic do for Buckfast

Buckfast often lies at the root of the problem.

steddyeddy

My name is URL wrote: »

It's crap like this which makes me wish that the whole of the North could just be amputated and set adrift up towards the Arctic

I think the worst thing is here is the the fact that some people there see themselves as both british, irish and northern irish, i think the worst thing to do is go on thinking this is a healthy way to think in the long term.

There needs to be further resolution in the north a part of ireland in the united kingdom really wont work saying that i would be just as happy if they took ireland out of the title and called it northern!

My name is URL

Elliemental wrote: »

Its' not all bad. I mean, what will the Republic do for Buckfast if the North is amputated?

Damn, I knew there'd be a downside I know plenty of people in Ulster and have some family there so I wouldn't really want to get rid of it or its people.. just the idiots that surface like this from time to time, from both sides of the divide

ElaElaElano

Elliemental wrote: »

Its' not all bad. I mean, what will the Republic do for Buckfast if the North is amputated?

One good thing about Buckfast?
It gets you fúcked fast!
Brewed my monks and drunk by punx!
Buckfast!






Ahem, sorry about that.

Celly Smunt

its actually right beside the motorway,the kfc is great,i don't see why people from st.james' and divis would be involved in rioting down that way,if anything they'd be heading toward grosvenor road or heading towards the shankill..something strange about the article i sense..

Elliemental

steddyeddy wrote: »

I do support a united ireland (non violently) but it think the worst thing is here is the the fact that some people there see themselves as both british, irish and northern irish, i thin the worst thing to do is go on thinking this is a healthy way to think in the long term.

Why is it unhealthy to have a dual nationality? I would fully support a reunification, but certainly not to satisfy terrorists. It would have to be by mutual consent, which wouldn't necessarily boil down to how one defines their national identity.

davrho

orourkeda wrote: »

Grown men acting like children. Where else would you get it?

Glasgow. The parades yesterday had the A&E departments over ran. A good bit about it in the Scottish news.

That riot last night has been brewing for weeks. Homes have been attacked and murials vandalised for the last few weeks in that area.

starbelgrade

pmcmahon wrote: »

its actually right beside the motorway,the kfc is great,i don't see why people from st.james' and divis would be involved in rioting down that way,if anything they'd be heading toward grosvenor road or heading towards the shankill..something strange about the article i sense..

KFC and great. Not two words that I would readily associate with each other.

pow wow

Erm riots being 'orchestrated' is hardly news...

Celly Smunt

starbelgrade wrote: »

KFC and great. Not two words that I would readily associate with each other.

you'd be suprised in the quality of it up north,the gravy is so thick and just delish

stovelid

More long hot bummers.

DeVore

A pox on both their houses....


DeV.

caseyann

I think the North has become media junkies and must be seen

Pauleta

Deep down those rioters love marching season. They are not rioting because of the marches they are rioting because its an excuse to cause trouble.

steddyeddy

Elliemental wrote: »

Why is it unhealthy to have a dual nationality? I would fully support a reunification, but certainly not to satisfy terrorists. It would have to be by mutual consent, which wouldn't necessarily boil down to how one defines their national identity.

I originally stated in my post before i edited it i would support a united ireland and id rather that but i actually wouldnt really mind if all the irishness was taken out of its titles as long as there was some sort of effort to finalize the situation as close to humanly possible. I would love there to be mutual consent in the north however i dont think thats possible even if all the past atrocities are forgiven and forgotten theres going to be people on both sides who resent the other group thinking that they think of the north as irish/english.

That postition cant go on forever and if it does theres no reason why tensions wont resurface. Its all gone on too long i lived up there for a bit and always claimed myself as exclusively irish and that really pissed people off (i didnt volunteer that information i was often asked). dual nationality/identity isnt a bad thing to have but its always going to cause tensions.

bigwormbundoran

starbelgrade wrote: »

KFC and great. Not two words that I would readily associate with each other.

That is just blatant heresy!

steddyeddy

steddyeddy wrote: »

I originally stated in my post before i edited it i would support a united ireland and id rather that but i actually wouldnt really mind if all the irishness was taken out of its titles as long as there was some sort of effort to finalize the situation as close to humanly possible. I would love there to be mutual consent in the north however i dont think thats possible even if all the past atrocities are forgiven and forgotten theres going to be people on both sides who resent the other group thinking that they think of the north as irish/english.

That postition cant go on forever and if it does theres no reason why tensions wont resurface. Its all gone on too long i lived up there for a bit and always claimed myself as exclusively irish and that really pissed people off (i didnt volunteer that information i was often asked). dual nationality/identity isnt a bad thing to have but its always going to cause tensions.

By the way Elliemental i love the people in the north i actually think most of the time like anyone their extremly friendly just i would love to see the situation resolved for all concerned.

Elliemental

steddyeddy wrote: »

I originally stated in my post before i edited it i would support a united ireland and id rather that but i actually wouldnt really mind if all the irishness was taken out of its titles as long as there was some sort of effort to finalize the situation as close to humanly possible. I would love there to be mutual consent in the north however i dont think thats possible even if all the past atrocities are forgiven and forgotten theres going to be people on both sides who resent the other group thinking that they think of the north as irish/english.

That postition cant go on forever and if it does theres no reason why tensions wont resurface. Its all gone on too long i lived up there for a bit and always claimed myself as exclusively irish and that really pissed people off (i didnt volunteer that information i was often asked). dual nationality/identity isnt a bad thing to have but its always going to cause tensions.

By English you mean British, presumably. But yes, I see what you are saying. But, there could easily come a time when there is an overall majority who would favour reunification (and I don't just mean in the North, this will affect the whole island of Ireland, not just the six counties). In that case, the opinnions of the majority could not be ignored.

take everything

Morons.

IvySlayer

Wish the police would be allowed to batter anyone who riots like this tbh. A couple of clubs they won't do it again.

Arrest them, send them to jail for 10 years.

Celly Smunt

IvySlayer wrote: »

Wish the police would be allowed to batter anyone who riots like this tbh. A couple of clubs they won't do it again.

Arrest them, send them to jail for 10 years.

ah yeah sure why not bring back internment as well :rolleyes:

IvySlayer

pmcmahon wrote: »

ah yeah sure why not bring back internment as well :rolleyes:

It may be an overreaction but I'm sick of scum who get away with this.

Celly Smunt

IvySlayer wrote: »

It may be an overreaction but I'm sick of scum who get away with this.

you have to have lived/or live in belfast to realise the mentality,you can't just call them all scum and lock them up and beat them,if anything its completely counter productive

Biggins

starbelgrade wrote: »

KFC and great. Not two words that I would readily associate with each other.

I like KFC. Down with McDonalds!

Mike 1972

pmcmahon wrote: »

ah yeah sure why not bring back internment as well :rolleyes:

I would support the internment of strawman yes !

artanevilla wrote: »

It's fascist marching season!

Here comes Godwin striking up the band............

caseyann

Biggins wrote: »

I like KFC. Down with McDonalds!

Agreed at least the chicken is chicken

Biggins

caseyann wrote: »

Agreed at least the chicken is chicken

True, I love their nuggets. Yum...:o

Celly Smunt

Biggins wrote: »

True, I love their nuggets. Yum...:o

the curry sauce is great as well

Nodin

Elliemental wrote: »

Oh dear, its' that time of year again. Rioting across west Belfast over the last few nights.
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Barely worth mentioning......

Nodin

Pauleta wrote: »

Deep down those rioters love marching season. They are not rioting because of the marches they are rioting because its an excuse to cause trouble.

Correct. Young lads chuck shite at the PSNI, get pissed, have a few fires....which of course isn't far off what some on the loyalist side do as well.

Leftyflip

You b*stards! Leave KFC alone!!!

Biggins

Nodin wrote: »

...Young lads chuck shite at the PSNI, get pissed, have a few fires...

Change "PSNI" for "Garda" and thats an average weekly occurrence in one estate alone in my home town.

Prof.Badass

IvySlayer wrote: »

Wish the police would be allowed to batter anyone who riots like this tbh. A couple of clubs they won't do it again.

Arrest them, send them to jail for 10 years.

Because police brutality would definitely help the situation .

pmcmahon wrote: »

you have to have lived/or live in belfast to realise the mentality,you can't just call them all scum and lock them up and beat them,if anything its completely counter productive

I don't think it works anywhere tbh.

It's highly unnatural for a person who has been humiliated to just accept themselves as subordinate those who humiliated them without any hard feelings. Give them half a chance to turn the tables/ make up for their humilation and they will.

Of course, some people would rather the primitive satisfaction of beating their enemies into submission than actually building a better world :rolleyes:.

caseyann

Biggins wrote: »

True, I love their nuggets. Yum...:o

pmcmahon wrote: »

the curry sauce is great as well

And now i am hungry

Gunsfortoys

My name is URL wrote: »

It's crap like this which makes me wish that the whole of the North could just be amputated and set adrift up towards the Arctic

Aren't you from Drogheda or Dundalk? One of those scummy little places? If any places are to be amputated its them mate.

caseyann

Prof.Badass wrote: »

Because police brutality would definitely help the situation .


I don't think it works anywhere tbh.

It's highly unnatural for a person who has been humiliated to just accept themselves as subordinate those who humiliated them without any hard feelings. Give them half a chance to turn the tables/ make up for their humilation and they will.

Of course, some people would rather the primitive satisfaction of beating their enemies into submission than actually building a better world :rolleyes:.

It does release pent up frustration and anger

PeterIanStaker

caseyann wrote: »

Bob stoker shouldnt throw stones in glass houses

Stoker, as an elected representative, should bring Unionism into the 20th Century:D:D



*waits for rock to be thrown*

My name is URL

Gunsfortoys wrote: »

Aren't you from Drogheda or Dundalk? One of those scummy little places? If any places are to be amputated its them mate.

No, I'm from somewhere right in between the two, thanks for asking

Abrasax

Gunsfortoys wrote: »

Aren't you from Drogheda or Dundalk? One of those scummy little places? If any places are to be amputated its them mate.

That'd cost an arm and a leg.

steddyeddy

Prof.Badass wrote: »

Because police brutality would definitely help the situation .


I don't think it works anywhere tbh.

It's highly unnatural for a person who has been humiliated to just accept themselves as subordinate those who humiliated them without any hard feelings. Give them half a chance to turn the tables/ make up for their humilation and they will.

Of course, some people would rather the primitive satisfaction of beating their enemies into submission than actually building a better world :rolleyes:.

Actually if your put in a situation were a people are divided by ideals and put under extreme stress youll soon relaize how of our actions are done to apease primitive satisfaction.

Thomas828

Elliemental wrote: »

Its' not all bad. I mean, what will the Republic do for Buckfast if the North is amputated?

And where will people in Dundalk, Monaghan and Donegal get their shopping?

df1985

Was in belfast last night for the kildare match and as we drove out from the city centre we saw smoke in the broadway area of the city,didnt realise they were full blown riots.

They really are stuck in the past up there, we were driving back last night and as we got to Banbridge the lads in the car beside us decided to stick their fingers up and shout abuse out the window. we basically laughed it off/rolled our eyes at them which made them even more pissed off......they really are pathetic.

Loads of fresh union jacks up on the lamposts along the road too for marching season.

I feel sorry for the decent people up there, to live in a city where segregation is an accepted part of life, where you cant go down certain streets, and have to see murals praising terrorists of both sides. Must be a horrible place to grow up, and as a result probably very easy to be sucked into the whole thing.

fryup

Ah, they love a good ol' riot up north........helps them let off steam:)