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Primary teaching in Ireland..without Higher Level Irish in the Leaving Cert..?

  • 04-07-2010 2:14pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1


    Hello...:)

    I would like to know a "backdoor" in the Primary teaching in Ireland because I don't do honours Irish in the Leaving Cert...:confused:

    I am interested in the Early childhood care and Education in S;igo IT....can I do Primary Teaching from this course with further study....??

    Thank you...:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    Institute does Irish courses for people who didn't do higher Irish. I'm pretty sure you don't have a choice whether you have it or not, you have to be able to teach Irish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭Renno123


    you cant apply for primary teaching in the Republic of Irl without a c3 in honours irish.
    what you can do though is do your level 8 degree and repeat ur irish as an external student. this is what i did.
    you can also go to the uk, on return you complete an irish exam permitting you to teach over here ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 plasticman001


    hey.

    is there an umbrella organisation or whatever you want to call it doing the primary teaching post grad in britain or does each uni do it independantly?have an arts degree and am thinking of doing primary teaching. i know people that have done it in nottingham and caterbury. what im basically looking for is a list of options of where to do it around the uk and what each place has to offer

    cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 937 ✭✭✭newbee22


    you need a C3 for all courses in Ireland, you could go to England, but then when you return to Ireland you would have to do the SCG exam


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 2,503 Mod ✭✭✭✭dambarude


    Also if you have a pass in first Arts Gaeilge it can be used instead of a C3 in the Leaving Cert.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 ash_c


    I am starting a postgrad in primary education in Liverpool Hope Uni in september. I only had a b1 in pass Irish for the Leaving Cert so I resat last June taking Honours, however I found out during the year that you DO NOT NEED higher level Irish,(after i had sat my oral!!:() I found this out by contacting the teaching council of Ireland.
    If you study in the UK you just need to do the SSG exam when you return regardless of what level Irish you have at leaving cert level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭BoozyBabe


    Eh, no one ever said you did!!!!!

    You NEED HL Irish to STUDY Primary Teaching in Ireland.
    Which you are not doing, hence not needing it.

    Also, don't think the SCG will be a walk in the park when you get back.
    It's FAR from it. & the standard is above HL LC Irish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Micilin Muc


    If you'd like to do a BEd in Ireland, but don't have a C3 in Higher Level Irish, you can do a Diploma in Irish (in UCD, NUI Maynooth, UL, NUI Galway) and you will then be eligible for any of the BEds in Marino, Pat's, Mary I, Froebel etc.

    To get into the Diploma in Irish course, you must have passed your overall Leaving Cert, and have a 'good' standard of Irish.

    My experience from talking to students is that the Diploma is a lot more enjoyable than Leaving Cert Irish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭salutations


    ash_c wrote: »
    I am starting a postgrad in primary education in Liverpool Hope Uni in september. I only had a b1 in pass Irish for the Leaving Cert so I resat last June taking Honours, however I found out during the year that you DO NOT NEED higher level Irish,(after i had sat my oral!!:() I found this out by contacting the teaching council of Ireland.
    If you study in the UK you just need to do the SSG exam when you return regardless of what level Irish you have at leaving cert level.

    Dont panic, the OCG is a new exam introduced this year and way easier than the SCG. You can choose either but you'd be a moron to choose the latter(unfortunately unless you have your own class you have to do the SCG).

    I got B in pass in the leaving over 10years ago, I did the OCG this year, thought it was a doddle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭Renno123


    Dont panic, the OCG is a new exam introduced this year and way easier than the SCG. You can choose either but you'd be a moron to choose the latter(unfortunately unless you have your own class you have to do the SCG).

    I got B in pass in the leaving over 10years ago, I did the OCG this year, thought it was a doddle.

    ive been told the requirement for english is a c?
    is this true? i only have a d1


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭BoozyBabe


    Yes, minimum C3 in hons Irish.
    Or 1st yr Irish in varous colleges, etc.

    If you look up any of the colleges website, all the info is there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Aubrac


    As far as I know, there are a couple of ways of doing Primary teaching without leaving the country!
    Trinity run (unless they've stopped it very recently) an 18month post grad course for Primary Teaching. You need a degree for this pref from a NUI, and places are limited. You will still need to study Irish and pass an exam at the end.
    Hibernia College also run a Distance Learning Postgrad. Again you need a degree, and do have to pay for the course. I'm also not convinced if employers would choose this course over a BEd.
    Leaving Cert Irish isn't that tough to get c3 in anyway...I repeated to get mine. Go spend a month on Inis Meain where the natives REALLY DO speak Irish! You'll be ready for anything after that!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 baloobus123


    If you'd like to do a BEd in Ireland, but don't have a C3 in Higher Level Irish, you can do a Diploma in Irish (in UCD, NUI Maynooth, UL, NUI Galway) and you will then be eligible for any of the BEds in Marino, Pat's, Mary I, Froebel etc.

    To get into the Diploma in Irish course, you must have passed your overall Leaving Cert, and have a 'good' standard of Irish.

    My experience from talking to students is that the Diploma is a lot more enjoyable than Leaving Cert Irish.



    Can you give me any more information about this diploma? How many years is it? I'm currently studying comerce and am going into second year now but want to do primary school teaching I think. I was thinking of doin the leaving cert irish this year but don't realy want to. If I could do the diploma in Galway this year along with commerce would be very handy. Do you have any more information on it?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    The diploma in irish is quite difficult, I know a few people who undertook it and I'd imagine the L/cert is easier from what they have told me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 fluffo


    Oral Irish is the most important part of teaching Irish in primary schools so you really need to get that up to a good standard. Watch tg4, listen to radio na gaeltachta, try your best to visit a gaeltacht area etc. etc.

    Atfer that, your written Irish and comprehension of Irish will become much better.

    The leaving cert irish oral would be quite manageable if you can
    a) understand most of what is being asked
    b) give basic phrases and verbs back to the examiner (5 of each tense - past, present, future, modh conniolach - would be perfect)

    Then the rest of the irish leaving cert paper is about learning basic phrases and reading the required texts.

    So i'd say you should just repeat Gaeilge in the leaving cert. If you don't know anybody you can regularly speak with as gaeilge, then i'd suggest you do a grind once a week to keep your spoken irish to a good standard. Then just apply as an external student to an exam hall.


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