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Pope Benedict UK visit a 'mistake' says Ian Paisley

  • 03-07-2010 10:25am
    #1
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭


    Ian Paisley has said it was a "mistake" to invite Pope Benedict XVI to Britain.

    "We have had a terrible happening in Ireland with the priests and monks and nuns all taking part in acts of disgraceful behaviour with young people, and we haven't seen the Catholic Church taking a strong stand on this," he told the BBC World Service.

    30 years ago we would have been inflamed by these comments. Today we have moved on and i think most of the Irish population would agree with him.

    If Benedict decides to come to Ireland I doubt if the country would give him the same welcome as John Paul 2nd got in 1979.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/northern_ireland/10484122.stm


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  • #2
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Why? Was he supposed to go to France or something?


  • #3
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    We have had a terrible happening in Ireland

    He actually said this ? :confused:


  • #4
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    *sits down and wonders how long it will take for this thread to turn into either an antibrit/west brit slagging match, or catholic vs protestant vs atheist free for all.*


  • #5
    deepsouthtalla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭deepsouthtalla


    why oh why do we listen to this man and waste are time writing about him


  • #6
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,230 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Sofiztikated wrote: »
    *sits down and wonders how long it will take for this thread to turn into either an antibrit/west brit slagging match, or catholic vs protestant vs atheist free for all.*

    Give it 800 nanoseconds.


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  • #7
    Yakult
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    I thought he was dead


  • #8
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    deepsouthtalla wrote: »
    why oh why do we listen to this man and waste are time writing about him

    The Pope or Paisley ?


  • #9
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    I agree with Paisley.

    There, I said it.


  • #10
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    He actually said this ? :confused:

    He also said this.
    I would never repudiate the fact that I am an Irishman


  • #11
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    He actually said this ? :confused:

    What do you expect hes a bigot hes the head of the free presbyterian church. (making it even more bad that a man that is a moderator has said this)


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  • #12
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Breaking news - Gerry Adams reported to be 'not too keen' on the Queen visiting Ireland.


  • #13
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    dlofnep wrote: »
    I agree with Paisley.

    There, I said it.

    Yes i agree what he said about what the catholic church did and that the pope shouldn't have too much importance (no offence, i beleive that god is the head of a church not someone living on earth.)But i still think it was bad for him to say that he doesn't say that about any other churches.. Oh and you should of heard them on the radio yesterday, the protestants and catholics were backstabbing on eachother, it was nuts they kept ringing up and saying comments going against the pope and then going against the church of ireland, people are never going to give up.:rolleyes:


  • #14
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    dlofnep wrote: »
    He also said this.

    Hes british, end of.


  • #15
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    super_furry wrote: »
    Breaking news - Gerry Adams reported to be 'not too keen' on the Queen visiting Ireland.

    Oh god here we go, theres never going to be peace in Northern Ireland.:rolleyes:


  • #16
    hinault
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭hinault


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Ian Paisley has said it was a "mistake" to invite Pope Benedict XVI to Britain.

    "We have had a terrible happening in Ireland with the priests and monks and nuns all taking part in acts of disgraceful behaviour with young people, and we haven't seen the Catholic Church taking a strong stand on this," he told the BBC World Service.

    30 years ago we would have been inflamed by these comments. Today we have moved on and i think most of the Irish population would agree with him.

    If Benedict decides to come to Ireland I doubt if the country would give him the same welcome as John Paul 2nd got in 1979.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/northern_ireland/10484122.stm


    Did Paisley ever comment about Kincora?

    Fcuking hypocrit.


  • #17
    Bajingo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭Bajingo


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Ian Paisley has said it was a "mistake" to invite Pope Benedict XVI to Britain.

    "We have had a terrible happening in Ireland with the priests and monks and nuns all taking part in acts of disgraceful behaviour with young people, and we haven't seen the Catholic Church taking a strong stand on this," he told the BBC World Service.

    30 years ago we would have been inflamed by these comments. Today we have moved on and i think most of the Irish population would agree with him.

    If Benedict decides to come to Ireland I doubt if the country would give him the same welcome as John Paul 2nd got in 1979.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/northern_ireland/10484122.stm

    I agree with this..but sure let him come anyway and the queen too..they'll make a speech and then leave and we can all move one:D


  • #18
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Bajingo wrote: »
    I agree with this..but sure let him come anyway and the queen too..they'll make a speech and then leave and we can all move one:D

    Is that really going to make a difference.:rolleyes: A protestant shaking hands with the pope, oh thats such an achievement.:rolleyes:


  • #19
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    owenc wrote: »
    Hes british, end of.

    You can have him, with love.


  • #20
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    dlofnep wrote: »
    You can have him, with love.

    No thanks..:eek:


  • #21
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    dlofnep wrote: »
    You can have him, with love.

    Have either of you ever contemplated the possibility that he might be both


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  • #22
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    owenc wrote: »
    No thanks..:eek:

    Tough. "He's British, end of" as you said. No going back now!


  • #23
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Have either of you ever contemplated the possibility that he might be both

    I did, hence my original post - But Owen got offended, so I gave Paisley back to him. And you don't want to offend Owen.


  • #24
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Have either of you ever contemplated the possibility that he might be both

    Not really, i think hes british not irish, sure he has a british passport does he not.


  • #25
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    dlofnep wrote: »
    I did, hence my original post - But Owen got offended, so I gave Paisley back to him. And you don't want to offend Owen.

    No you don't.:P


  • #26
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,230 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    If Benedict decides to come to Ireland I doubt if the country would give him the same welcome as John Paul George and Ringo got in 1979.

    Had to be fixed.


  • #27
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    owenc wrote: »
    Not really, i think hes british not irish, sure he has a british passport does he not.

    Lots of people dont have passports at all

    Are they stateless ?


  • #28
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Lots of people dont have passports at all

    Are they stateless ?

    Yes but they've got a birth certificate.;)


  • #29
    PeterIanStaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    Am I alone in thinking that Benny Ratz and Dr No should face off a la Celebrity Deathmatch?

    Hopefully they'll both die and we can get on with our lives.


  • #30
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Well its definatly a mistake him going to england before visting ireland after what his orginization did to the more vunerable in the country.


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  • #31
    [Deleted User]
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    owenc wrote: »
    Not really, i think hes british not irish, sure he has a british passport does he not.

    He has Irish heritage and lives on the island of Ireland, but also lives in a part of the United Kingdom and is a British citizen. So yes, he's both Irish and British.


  • #32
    deepsouthtalla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭deepsouthtalla


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    The Pope or Paisley ?

    both ha ha ha ha we are only now starting to be free from the religious crap, thats y we need to tell both men to F.O.!!


  • #33
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Well its definatly a mistake him going to england before visting ireland after what his orginization did to the more vunerable in the country.

    Hes going to BRITAIN not only for england, that does my head in, people calling britain england or the united kingdom england, there are places in the uk that aren't in england.:rolleyes:


  • #34
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Deleted User wrote: »
    He has Irish heritage and lives on the island of Ireland, but also lives in a part of the United Kingdom and is a British citizen. So yes, he's both Irish and British.

    Hes has scottish heritage.


  • #35
    brummytom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    I'd much rather have the Pope visit than Paisley


  • #36
    rainbow kirby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    owenc wrote: »
    Not really, i think hes british not irish, sure he has a british passport does he not.

    I have both, because my mum was born in the UK - doesn't make me any less Irish.


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  • #37
    mickomania
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 ✭mickomania


    This pope needs to grow a pair of balls and stop copping out. Its pathetic.


  • #38
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    rainbow kirby wrote: »
    I have both, because my mum was born in the UK - doesn't make me any less Irish.

    Yes but your from the republic of ireland you don't live in The United Kingdom.


  • #39
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    mickomania wrote: »
    This pope needs to grow a pair of balls and stop copping out. Its pathetic.

    Yea and the first thing he needs to do is start reforming the rules, first letting people marry more than once, let woman be priests and let priests marry i mean those rules are over 2000 years old get grip and nearly every church now a days has those three reforms.


  • #40
    [Deleted User]
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    mickomania wrote: »
    This pope needs to grow a pair of balls and stop copping out. Its pathetic.

    What's the point, he's not allowed to use them!


  • #41
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Deleted User wrote: »
    What's the point, he's not allowed to use them!

    Thats another rule they need to reform. They shouldn't be alowed to control peoples lives in this day and age its a bloody discrace.


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  • #42
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    owenc wrote: »
    Yea and the first thing he needs to do is start reforming the rules, first letting people marry more than once, let woman be priests and let priests marry i mean those rules are over 2000 years old get grip and nearly every church now a days has those three reforms.

    I think thw celebacy rule is only about 500 years or so (can't be arsed to google) before that the priests were at the front of the queue at the orgies!


  • #43
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I think thw celebacy rule is only about 500 years or so (can't be arsed to google) before that the priests were at the front of the queue at the orgies!

    Well whatever its a discrace. Ugh why can't they change the bloody rules!!! (no offence they really do make me mad).


  • #44
    testicle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    owenc wrote: »
    What do you expect hes a bigot hes the head of the free presbyterian church. (making it even more bad that a man that is a moderator has said this)

    Paisleys a mod? What's his username?


  • #45
    PeterIanStaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    Deleted User wrote: »
    What's the point, he's not allowed to use them!
    . . . on a consenting adult.


  • #46
    bleg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    If the Pope came to Ireland I'd egg the pope mobile.

    Ratzinger is an evil ****.


  • #47
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Breaking news; "Paisley Says NOOOOOO"


  • #48
    davrho
    Closed Accounts Posts: 758 ✭✭✭davrho


    owenc wrote: »
    Thats another rule they need to reform. They shouldn't be alowed to control peoples lives in this day and age its a bloody discrace.

    I don't think they do. If you don't agree with the laws and traditions of Catholic priesthood(or any other religion) then you don't become a priest. You would have to be a bit of an eejit to sign up for something you don't believe in when the rules are in place.


  • #49
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    davrho wrote: »
    I don't think they do. If you don't agree with the laws and traditions of Catholic priesthood(or any other religion) then you don't become a priest. You would have to be a bit of an eejit to sign up for something you don't believe in when the rules are in place.

    They do they don't let priests marry or nuns.


  • #50
    davrho
    Closed Accounts Posts: 758 ✭✭✭davrho


    owenc wrote: »
    They do they don't let priests marry or nuns.
    And you know this before you join. No one is forced. These are the rules and if you disagree then you don't become a priest.


  • #51
    owenc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    davrho wrote: »
    And you know this before you join. No one is forced. These are the rules and if you disagree then you don't become a priest.

    Well i still disagree with that.


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