gun club membership

terminator2

I was just wondering what the trend is around the country,i got the list in our club last night and membership is down slightly ,any views,..........

Dusty87

I dont know Terminator. You posted here before about enticing people to join i think, young people. I couldnt get membership of a club 2 years ago and now 2 clubs have actaully asked me!!! Ya'd feel like saying no tbh as i have the land i want, insurance etc. I basically have me own personal gun club. But il join the smaller one for definate simply because its not that active and id like to spice things up a bit.
When i first got my licence no one was "taking new members", so i couldnt be bothered asking anymore, then when i started shooting foxes and got a good few permissions etc i have got two invites on a few occasions.
IMO they need to open their minds a bit.

I know a few a few farmers sons who shoot their own land but wont bother asking clubs anymore. In their words "F*uck Them".

terminator2

some of the lads in our area have either retired or just handed their gun in at the local garda station ,just couldnt be bothered with the red tape and BS

terminator2

DO YE REAR YOUR OWN BIRDS DUSTY

Tackleberrywho

terminator2 wrote: »

DO YE REAR YOUR OWN BIRDS DUSTY

Dusty rears AFAIK, I think he is on hols at the mo so a reply might take a while

Insurance is the most important thing you get before you even think about going out, All farmers are in the IFA so if you have an IFA countryside membership card it goes a long way to getting a permission.

bunny shooter

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Dusty rears AFAIK, I think he is on hols at the mo so a reply might take a while

Insurance is the most important thing you get before you even think about going out, All farmers are in the IFA so if you have an IFA countryside membership card it goes a long way to getting a permission.

No they aren't

johngalway

bunny shooter wrote: »

No they aren't

Quite right we're not all in the IFA.

Tackleberrywho

johngalway wrote: »

Quite right we're not all in the IFA.

A but a Huge proportion are, It's like the Mafia!! If you are not in it you are against it!

IFA membership got me almost €70 off my Jeep Insurance Friday, so it has it's perks too.
And 15% of vodafone!!

All Farmers know and recognise their Insurance, so it opens more doors than closes when you are looking for permissions.
In my Very Humble Opinion

medicman

My brother has a few firearms, but not a member of any gun club, just shoots on farmers lands with permission, there isnt any gun club where he is, (broke up years ago, loads of infighting etc) anyway, he tried a few clubs, hoping one might accept him, and guess what?.....NONE, nope, didnt want to hear from him? these were as local as he could find, about 20-30 miles from his house.

I have asked my club sec, but still waiting on a reply, my shooting buddy in another club has asked his sec and is awaiting a relpy also.

I know clubs dont want people from other areas shooting, but if there is a decline in numbers then you would think they would welcome a new member?

bunny shooter

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

A but a Huge proportion are..

Not same thing as "all" though

deeksofdoom

medicman wrote: »

My brother has a few firearms, but not a member of any gun club, just shoots on farmers lands with permission, there isnt any gun club where he is, (broke up years ago, loads of infighting etc) anyway, he tried a few clubs, hoping one might accept him, and guess what?.....NONE, nope, didnt want to hear from him? these were as local as he could find, about 20-30 miles from his house.

I have asked my club sec, but still waiting on a reply, my shooting buddy in another club has asked his sec and is awaiting a relpy also.

I know clubs dont want people from other areas shooting, but if there is a decline in numbers then you would think they would welcome a new member?

There is bitching and infighting in every club. We have one fellah that comes to our meetings with the sole purpose of starting a row. You can't get anything done with that sort of carry on. It's in every club and organisation in the country.

To be honest if there was someone from another parish who was looking to join our club and he already had permission from a few of the local farmers I'ld have no problem leaving him in. Better to have his money than not have it and especially when he'ld be still shooting club birds anyway.

Tackleberrywho

bunny shooter wrote: »

Not same thing as "all" though

Bunny most have been on hoildays, we have not heard from you in about 2 weeks now!!

Where I live All farmers are in the IFA, other parts of the country will vary.

I hear the other guys points on gunclub membership.

I was a member of a gunclub in Connaught and Leinster at different stages in my life.

I found that nobody in them was interested in Rifles which I was more into than shotties so I left them.

all they seemed to do as far as I was concerned was have meetings.

In my locality I have shooting on my fathers farm and 6 farms in close proximity.
No further than 1 mile travel.

On said land there is every game bird bar geese and woodcock, rabbit, fox, Fallow and even Feral goat.

So a gunclub is grand if you do not have access to these resources.

The only thing that needs improvement is the weather

medicman

deeksofdoom wrote: »

There is bitching and infighting in every club. We have one fellah that comes to our meetings with the sole purpose of starting a row. You can't get anything done with that sort of carry on. It's in every club and organisation in the country.

To be honest if there was someone from another parish who was looking to join our club and he already had permission from a few of the local farmers I'ld have no problem leaving him in. Better to have his money than not have it and especially when he'ld be still shooting club birds anyway.

Thanks for that, totally agree with you, and to make matters worse, his permission lands are full of game birds and he has no problem taking people there to shoot as the farmers want a small kickback in the form of crow and pigeon control during the harvest, happy days, i'm there helping out taking loads of birds, who could want any more?

bunny shooter

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Bunny most have been on hoildays, we have not heard from you in about 2 weeks now!!

Aw .............. did ya miss me I was away in uniform

I'm in two clubs and had the option of 2 more. They're "game" clubs and most lads like ya say are into shotties & pheasants etc. few shave 223's and shoot foxes and few more have 22's and shoot bunnies. Not many of them into target type stuff BUT then again they ain't members of a range.

I am in them for convienence tbh as I get NARGC cover.

I have plenty of permissions totally seperate to clubs Good share of local landowners in the clubs I'm in too.

The local clubs stock pheasants & duck annually too. they're handy for newbies too as a way into shooting game etc

Tackleberrywho

I missed ya surely, did ya bring me back a stick of Rock

Boards.ie was not the same without ya:D

bunny shooter

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

I missed ya surely, did ya bring me back a stick of Rock

Boards.ie was not the same without ya:D

Brought back some mud from Kilworth for ya :D

Tackleberrywho

bunny shooter wrote: »

Brought back some mud from Kilworth for ya :D

The old red sandstone, ya can't bate it!

bunny shooter

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

The old red sandstone, ya can't bate it!

Hard to wash off your gear too

jimbrowning

Dusty87 wrote: »

I dont know Terminator. You posted here before about enticing people to join i think, young people. I couldnt get membership of a club 2 years ago and now 2 clubs have actaully asked me!!! Ya'd feel like saying no tbh as i have the land i want, insurance etc. I basically have me own personal gun club. But il join the smaller one for definate simply because its not that active and id like to spice things up a bit.
When i first got my licence no one was "taking new members", so i couldnt be bothered asking anymore, then when i started shooting foxes and got a good few permissions etc i have got two invites on a few occasions.
IMO they need to open their minds a bit.

I know a few a few farmers sons who shoot their own land but wont bother asking clubs anymore. In their words "F*uck Them".

+1 on that!!!

smokin ace

jimbrowning wrote: »

+1 on that!!!

i only have one rifle and the local club has asked me loads of times to join but i wont they want €250 off me a year and the club caters for the shot gun shooter they said my dog would be coverd with insurance but i dont have a dog they said i could shoot on gun club lands but i have shooting permission off farmers on most of the club land anyway so what use is it to me joining the local club

terminator2

insurance for a start

jap gt

i joined this year, the club wasn't up to much until this year, so a few lads got together and we have 40 members now, 110 for the year isnt too bad, the club has a load of ground so its worth joining+ a good amount of pheasants already on the ground and more coming in september

smokin ace

terminator2 wrote: »

insurance for a start[/QUOTE


i am insured with Countryside Alliance for €60 a year

Terrier

smokin ace wrote: »

i am insured with Countryside Alliance for €60 a year

I have no issue with CA insurance but do they put anything back into the sport, the NARGC as well as provides insurance gives

- 50% back on all vermin traps bought
- Discounts on pheasant & duck poults (€2.50 for 10 weeks old pheasants!)
- Grants for cover crops
- fight for gun owners rights

Our club insurance has come down slightly this year also, we review fees every year but since we are not releasing birds this year it's slightly reduced. Our membership is down the last few years mainly because a lot of the older generation have stopped shooting now.

cavan shooter

Our membership is up this year, in saying that it fluctuates between 40-45. We are open to new members who live in the area or work in the area or have links to the area by marriage :Detc (bit like soccer and eligibility for the irish team). Once your willing to give a hand, and can shoot 70+ in clays.

Some clubs (and it has been done to death here) are very well, I think the saying is set in their ways. At National level NARGC are encouraging all clubs to allow new members. It makes sense, any individual can get permission and then they can shoot the club birds, so let them in the club might gain from it.

We only say not to pot hunters....

bazza888

You dont eat the pheasants you shoot?or am i taking you up wrong in the term you used?Itought that just ment shooting to have one for the table sorta thing?

bazza888

I would love to join my local club,I rang last year and asked about joining,I was told it was 350e for year that they raise a few pheasants and shoot the odd clay,id have get people to sponsor me to join and write letters to chairman for permission to join to be put before the agm also,I am new to sport but would be very interested in helping out seeing what a clubs about.350 seemed alot

jap gt

bazza888 wrote: »

I would love to join my local club,I rang last year and asked about joining,I was told it was 350e for year that they raise a few pheasants and shoot the odd clay,id have get people to sponsor me to join and write letters to chairman for permission to join to be put before the agm also,I am new to sport but would be very interested in helping out seeing what a clubs about.350 seemed alot

to be honest i wouldnt bother my hole joining a club like that, its a gun club not a bloody secret society, all this writing letters and stuff is a joke, our club you have to know two people and its voted at the agm, anything more is just stupid

bazza888

i tought they might let me go out with them for a day see what it was all about,id be very interested in vermin control side of it,trapping mink grey squirels etc,as i havnt got ashot gun yet would do whatever else i could,have a22rifle.

jap gt

bazza888 wrote: »

i tought they might let me go out with them for a day see what it was all about,id be very interested in vermin control side of it,trapping mink grey squirels etc,as i havnt got ashot gun yet would do whatever else i could,have a22rifle.

what part of the country are you, most clubs would love people for vermin control, its ususally just a few lads that do it, as most just want to shoot game..

bazza888

kildare,i will ring him during week see has his tune changed much with the current climate ie people with less money and lads not renewing licenses and such.

Tackleberrywho

jap gt wrote: »

what part of the country are you, most clubs would love people for vermin control, its ususally just a few lads that do it, as most just want to shoot game..

I have been in two NARGC clubs, one in Connaught one in lenister; Both of them I only needed one lad to recommend me

bazza888

being new to area its hard to get two people to back you,even geting permissions hard mostly older lads who will let u shoot there land.

jap gt

it differs from club to club, next club to me needs four

bazza888

youd think theyd be dying for new members wouldnt even be shooting there phesants!

jap gt

bazza888 wrote: »

being new to area its hard to get two people to back you,even geting permissions hard mostly older lads who will let u shoot there land.

most clubs have a certain pub/s where members meet for a few pints, maybe try and get chatting to a few lads there, pub is always a good place to fall in with a club

bazza888

yeah true,ill have to give it a go see what happens this time lots of things have changed in last year so it might be good time to ask,he also said you cant go on club land alone for first year?is this normal enough?

jap gt

never heard that, not to say it doesnt happen in some clubs, it makes it hard for a new person to get started though

Tackleberrywho

jap gt wrote: »

never heard that, not to say it doesnt happen in some clubs, it makes it hard for a new person to get started though

That is the main reason I got out of the club scene.
Get one farmers permission and you will in time get more and more and more........

The farmer owns the land so he can guive the permission.
You get your Insurance IFA/CA and bob's yer uncle.

bazza888

have ifa, by the way do they send aletter when time to renew membership?found it very hard get permissions lots alads say ah yeah you can go in that bit a land and shoot but dont want to sign anything.

harr

i was in the same boat a few year back rang a few lads to join the local club sent in the letter and all no word back for months rang 5 or 6 more times still no joy.i can trace back to my great great grandfather so yes i am local. i think i have every right to join more so than some in the club.i got membership in a club 40 mile away because a friend is member and i know a few lads down there no problem joining.i mostly shoot clays anyway so would not be takeing many birds .:mad:

bazza888

theres a few around very hard get contact names for the others in surrounding villages can find names on net but no numbers to contact.

jap gt

harr wrote: »

i was in the same boat a few year back rang a few lads to join the local club sent in the letter and all no word back for months rang 5 or 6 more times still no joy.i can trace back to my great great grandfather so yes i am local. i think i have every right to join more so than some in the club.i got membership in a club 40 mile away because a friend is member and i know a few lads down there no problem joining.i mostly shoot clays anyway so would not be takeing many birds .:mad:

bet when they are down on money/members they will take people

bazza888

hopefully,would be great to finally start getting into things properly,it would be great!

bazza888

what did cavan shooter mean by this?
We only say not to pot hunters....

deeksofdoom

Terrier wrote: »

I have no issue with CA insurance but do they put anything back into the sport, the NARGC as well as provides insurance gives

- 50% back on all vermin traps bought
- Discounts on pheasant & duck poults (€2.50 for 10 weeks old pheasants!)
- Grants for cover crops
- fight for gun owners rights

Our club insurance has come down slightly this year also, we review fees every year but since we are not releasing birds this year it's slightly reduced. Our membership is down the last few years mainly because a lot of the older generation have stopped shooting now.

50% back on vermin traps bought, is this true and how would you go about it?

Tackleberrywho

deeksofdoom wrote: »

50% back on vermin traps bought, is this true and how would you go about it?

IFA countryside got me 25% off my phone bill, €35 of car insurance and a host of other discounts

http://www.ifacountryside.ie/

The Farmers have it sown up

deeksofdoom

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

IFA countryside got me 25% off my phone bill, €35 of car insurance and a host of other discounts

http://www.ifacountryside.ie/

The Farmers have it sown up

I'm talking about the NARGC.

How do you go about getting a refund on vermin traps that you have purchased for the club.

Tackleberrywho

deeksofdoom wrote: »

I'm talking about the NARGC.

How do you go about getting a refund on vermin traps that you have purchased for the club.

the price saved from iFA discounts would buy a lot of vermin traps.

Perhaps an NARGC member can advise you more on rebate's available on traps

I assumed it was general interest on money saving for Shooters...........

jap gt

deeksofdoom wrote: »

I'm talking about the NARGC.

How do you go about getting a refund on vermin traps that you have purchased for the club.

ring the nargc and ask them, but as far as i know, the club buys the traps and sends in the reciept, they must be bought through a club

johngalway

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