Dry needle treatment???

ronnie085

Just had dry needle treatment on slight it band problem, before it develops to something serious, is it worth the pain or is physio just punishing me for not enough stretching?

BeepBeep67

I had 2 sessions on an achilles / lower calf issue last year, found I recovered quickly, but was very sore afterwards and recent physio sessions have been painful in that area.

Conor20

I've also done a few dry needling sessions to loosen out a very tight hip before a H-IM. I found it to be very useful. It does take longer to recover from than deep tissue massage, I find, but for chronically tight muscles, it's is a lot more effective in loosening them out.

Conor.

kingQuez

I had one session to kill a triggerpoint in my aductor (?spelling) a couple of months ago, that was referring incredible pain down my calf. Was a bit sore for a few days after, though the calf pain was gone by the end of the session. I hate needles, but the physio said the alternative was just to use direct pressure on the point, but it could take a few weeks to get sorted rather than an almost instant fix.

MarieC

It really is that sore (when I got it done, on my glutes :eek: and on my calves, the physio had to give me a lift home!), but recovery was quite quick and the effect was remarkable.

mithril

For my information, what's the difference between acupuncture and dry needling?

Is dry needling the same procedure?

huskerdu

mithril wrote: »

For my information, what's the difference between acupuncture and dry needling?

Is dry needling the same procedure?

I have never had it done by my physio recommended it.

The one line answer is that acupuncture is used to diagnose and treat many ailments and illness, dry needling is used specifically to relieve tightness and discomfort in muscles. The Wikipedai entry on dry needling explains the basics.

ronnie085

Thumbs up for the needles, easy run today, injury felt lot looser, just bit sore around area treated, roll on next session of pain :eek:

Frogeye

Hi Lads

I've had a lot of needling on my glutes and lower back. Tightness built up over the years was giving me back problems. Physio had me back in good shape in no time and my flexibilty has improved greatly. No major side effects or pain either I must say.


Was going to another phsyio for a few weeks before that he used acupuncture and his hands and I got no where.

Frogeye

Cartman78

I'm a big big fan of dry needling - have tried a wide range of other treatments but for me anyway, it really does the trick. Personally, I think it works better as a regular maintenance treatment on tight muscles rather than on full blown injuries.

My physio always tells me to take a day off after it and then go for an easy run the following day.

mithril

huskerdu wrote: »

The Wikipedai entry on dry needling explains the basics.

In the context of treating running injuries, appears to be the same procedure as used for acupuncture without the pseudo-scientific rationale.

What I found surprising about the article is that physical therapists are banned from administering it in certain states in the U.S. and its not widely practised there. Not entirely clear why.

TFBubendorfer

ronnie085 wrote: »

Just had dry needle treatment on slight it band problem, before it develops to something serious, is it worth the pain or is physio just punishing me for not enough stretching?

I've had 2 sessions on my calves a couple of years ago. Jesus, that hurt!!

I'm not even sure if it helped. The physio said it might solve my cramping problems, but wearing compression socks in marathons seemed to be the more successful strategy, and a lot less painful (cheaper too!).

littlebug

mithril wrote: »

In the context of treating running injuries, appears to be the same procedure as used for acupuncture without the pseudo-scientific rationale.
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IME with dry needling they put the needle in a lot (lot) deeper.... they also wiggle it around a bit which hurts like hell! Acupuncture to me seems much more shallow and doesn't hurt beyond the initial skin piercing.
Having had both dry needling and deep tissue massage on my dodgy hip the deep tissue massage wins hands down though the needling did make some difference.