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The Books Vs TV Show **SPOILERS** **STAY AWAY IF YOU HAVEN'T READ THE BOOKS!**

  • 01-07-2010 6:52pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭


    A couple have people have said they would prefer if the books aren't mentioned on the episode threads, which is totally fair enough as things could get spoiled for them if they want to read the books. So I thought we could have a thread where we can discuss the books in comparison to the tv show and not ruin anything for anyone :)

    So for those of us who have read the books, what do you think of the changes the programme's writers and producers have made?

    In the first series I really enjoyed the character of Tara. She was feisty, funny and had some great lines. Oh yeah, and she's black. I was never a fan of Tara in the books, she was a bit of a non-entity. However, TV-Tara is now a complete pain in the arse and I really wish they'd get rid. I'm curious to see how they're going to play out the Franklin Mott storyline in the show, as in the book he was a much older, Italian vamp and didn't have a very central role in relation to Bill.

    I didn't really enjoy the Marianne storyline. She was such a blip in the books, and I would have preferred them to go with the Dallas hotel explosion and the searching afterwards. Harris is great at writing climactic scenes that I would have loved to have seen it on the screen :)

    I'm still enjoying the changes they've made to Jason. I liked the storyline of him joining the Fellowship of the Sun but I have to say, I really hope they go down the road of Hotshot and the werepanthers.

    I'm glad that they made Lafayette a central character (and kept him alive!) :P He has some brilliant lines. Never did the words "hooker" and "bitch" sound so good.

    Sookie, Bill, Eric and Pam are just as I expected. Kudos to whoever did the casting.

    Ok, think thats enough for now! What do the rest of you think?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,924 ✭✭✭✭RolandIRL


    I liked the whole Mary-ann storyline in the books. I saw the first two seasons before I started reading the books. the books were easy to get through. i was able to get through one in a day!

    I prefer that they've changed the storylines a good bit. it'd be a bit boring if it was exactly like the books, but the overall Sookie story is roughly the same, i think.

    i'll probably think of more to add, but it's hard to choose between the books and the show. suffice to say, i'm hoping to see some scenes in the books on tv, if you get my meaning ;);)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    whiteman19 wrote: »
    I liked the whole Mary-ann storyline in the books. I saw the first two seasons before I started reading the books. the books were easy to get through. i was able to get through one in a day!

    Yeah I read 9 of them and the short stories collection in less than 3 weeks...whilst studying for my masters. Ridiculously addictive books. The Marianne story in the book wasn't really a central story though, so I was surprised to see the whole series based around that. Although I did like that they kept to the orgy storyline :P
    whiteman19 wrote: »
    I prefer that they've changed the storylines a good bit. it'd be a bit boring if it was exactly like the books, but the overall Sookie story is roughly the same, i think.

    Yeah its quite similar but I wonder if she's going to kill Lorena and save Bill. The sex scene at the end of last weeks was bizarre. I assume that Sookie will find out and Franklin Mott will let her know that Bill was sent to get close to her by Sophie-Anne...leaving the door open for her and Eric.
    whiteman19 wrote: »
    i'll probably think of more to add, but it's hard to choose between the books and the show. suffice to say, i'm hoping to see some scenes in the books on tv, if you get my meaning ;);)

    Let me guess...the shower scene? :P

    Also, what do you think of Sookie being with Eric? I personally don't like it and am still hoping she'll get back with Bill. It just doesn't feel right, particularly as in the books Bill had no choice about Lorena..something that she acknowledged about Eric in the last book when we met his maker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,396 ✭✭✭lindtee


    What bugs me most about the series is Layfayette (like many others), they should have killed him off like in the book, he has no redeming features in my opinion!! AlsoTara (nothing like the book Tara and just plain annoying and on screen wayyy to much) Didn't like the maenad storyline either, way, way too drawn out compared to the books. Would have preferred it to be a blip.

    I love Eric, Pam, and Bill in the series, very well cast. Sookie, I can find her accent annoying but she's ok I suppose. Most are as I pictured with the exception of Tara, for obvious reasons!! The arrival of Jessica annoyed me at first, as she's not in the books at all, but I've grown to like her, especially in the current series, a very good addition I think.

    I'm glad that they made the tv show so different to the books as there's always an element of surprise every episode, I'm not sure I'd like it so much if it were more similar.

    One thing that bugged me about Dead in the Family's cover was it the cast of True Blood, Jessica was on it and sookie was draped over bill. I much prefer the American covers, which all my other books are. Also there was a reference to the theme song "Bad Things" in Dead in the Family. It was being played in Merlottes, don't know why but that reallllly annoyed me:o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    lindtee wrote: »
    One thing that bugged me about Dead in the Family's cover was it the cast of True Blood, Jessica was on it and sookie was draped over bill. I much prefer the American covers, which all my other books are. Also there was a reference to the theme song "Bad Things" in Dead in the Family. It was being played in Merlottes, don't know why but that reallllly annoyed me:o

    I felt exactly the same! Sookie is with Eric, Jessica doesn't exist, Lafayette is dead and Tara isn't black. Really, really annoyed me! I hate this rebranding crap. What about the legions of followers of the BOOKS? Thats who she should be writing for..not those who have only seen the tv show.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭DualBladez


    lindtee wrote: »
    What bugs me most about the series is Layfayette (like many others), they should have killed him off like in the book, he has no redeming features in my opinion!! AlsoTara (nothing like the book Tara and just plain annoying and on screen wayyy to much) Didn't like the maenad storyline either, way, way too drawn out compared to the books. Would have preferred it to be a blip.

    I love Eric, Pam, and Bill in the series, very well cast. Sookie, I can find her accent annoying but she's ok I suppose. Most are as I pictured with the exception of Tara, for obvious reasons!! The arrival of Jessica annoyed me at first, as she's not in the books at all, but I've grown to like her, especially in the current series, a very good addition I think.

    I'm glad that they made the tv show so different to the books as there's always an element of surprise every episode, I'm not sure I'd like it so much if it were more similar.

    One thing that bugged me about Dead in the Family's cover was it the cast of True Blood, Jessica was on it and sookie was draped over bill. I much prefer the American covers, which all my other books are. Also there was a reference to the theme song "Bad Things" in Dead in the Family. It was being played in Merlottes, don't know why but that reallllly annoyed me:o
    yeah should have been killed off


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭shinny


    Thanks Chinafoot for starting this thread.

    I read most of the books before True Blood ever aired (up to From Dead to Worse) so I had great expectations and hunted down the Pilot as soon as it aired in the States.

    I agree about the hotel explosion in Dallas and where the story went with Barry etc. I would have much preferred it like that.

    The only thing I liked about the Marianne storyline was that party at the house where Eric showed up in the spandax and what happened on the bonet of the car. Smoken'!!

    I totally visualised Eric like that although the wig they had on him in the first season of TB was awful. Harris had him with long flowing blonde hair though. I was just glad they changed him in Season 2 into the hunk he is now.

    What I was worried about though was that they were going to make screen Eric into a bit of a f*cker and Bill the hero, but I think they've changed that a lot in the tail end of Season 2 and into this season so far. Book Bill was easier to dislike too so you didn't mind that Sookie started to have stronger feelings for Eric. Eric was constantly looking after her in the books and was more concerend about her well being than book Bill. But, I think they've struggled a little with that in the show because a lot of people like nice guy Bill.

    I totally agree about Lafayette. I'm so glad Ball realised that Nelsan Ellis was such a great actor that he kept him in. Brilliant that they created Jessica too because I love her and Hoyt's storyline.

    My biggest problem now is that I have a mesh of the books and the past episodes because it's been so long since I read them. I sometimes forget what was the book and what was the show!! I was only thinking the other day that I want to re-read them all.

    I loved Bubba in the books but there was no way Ball could have translated him into the TV show. It would have made people think this was a wacky show!!

    I haven't ordered Dead in the Family yet as I want to get it in paperback so it matches the others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    shinny wrote: »
    My biggest problem now is that I have a mesh of the books and the past episodes because it's been so long since I read them. I sometimes forget what was the book and what was the show!! I was only thinking the other day that I want to re-read them all.

    I'm doing that too. I actually convinced myself that Godric was Eric's maker, but I knew it wasn't sitting right with me so I had to check. I find it so hard to separate the books from the tv show. When the show takes a direction that I like, it's grand, but when they go off in a direction I don't like - Tara being a perfect example - I feel a little resentful :P
    shinny wrote: »
    I loved Bubba in the books but there was no way Ball could have translated him into the TV show. It would have made people think this was a wacky show!!

    Aww man, how did I forget Bubba!? Absolutely loved that character in the books. But yeah, completely agree that it would be a bad move to bring the character into the show.
    shinny wrote: »
    I haven't ordered Dead in the Family yet as I want to get it in paperback so it matches the others.

    I work in a library so I just picked up my copy there. So unimpressed with the cover. I really like the cartoony-type. The book is good, but it feels more like a build up to what will hopefully be a kick-ass book 11. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭shinny


    Chinafoot wrote: »
    I work in a library so I just picked up my copy there. So unimpressed with the cover. I really like the cartoony-type. The book is good, but it feels more like a build up to what will hopefully be a kick-ass book 11. :)

    I love the cartoony covers too so I'm not happy they've "true-blooded" it :p

    I was reading reviews about it and it's a real mixed bag. I want to re-read the others before I start into it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭mandz


    Ok I'm only up to all together dead, just started it today. I actually really wanted Sookie and Alcide to get together so was very disappointed with what happened, not mad on this Quinn guy. Bill annoys me and Eric in the book I'm 50/50. I'm not sure I trust his character... but tv Eric....whoop whoop bring on the shower scene. He has to put that in for all the thousands of women out there :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    mandz wrote: »
    Ok I'm only up to all together dead, just started it today. I actually really wanted Sookie and Alcide to get together so was very disappointed with what happened, not mad on this Quinn guy. Bill annoys me and Eric in the book I'm 50/50. I'm not sure I trust his character... but tv Eric....whoop whoop bring on the shower scene. He has to put that in for all the thousands of women out there :D

    I could never take to Quinn at all. I felt he was pretty pointless tbh. Loved Alcide and thought they would have made a great couple.

    I'm still holding out hope for Sookie and Bill :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭mandz


    No she should stay away from Bill. I'm holding out for Sookie and Alcide... But like you just can't take to Quinn at all. I'm trying.

    She could end up with Calvin Norris yet and surprise us all!! :D:D


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    lindtee wrote: »
    Dead in the Family's cover

    wait... theres a new book out? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭RentDayBlues


    Loved all the True Blood books but the last one was very disappointing! I cant wait to see how they're going to translate some of the later books into TV and I can't wait to see what Quinn is going to look like. . . one of the only characters its hard to imagine, well obviously with the exception of the fairies


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    So after last nights episode...what do you make of the change to Russell, King of Mississippi??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    So I read Dead in the Family yesterday, and honestly the books seem to get more and more like the Anita Blake series.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    So I read Dead in the Family yesterday, and honestly the books seem to get more and more like the Anita Blake series.

    Dead in the Family, for me, felt like a introduction to the next book. I wasn't all too happy with it. It felt like filler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭shinny


    Just watched the latest episode. So this is how they are going to play Eric and Sookie's relationship either him fantasizing or her dreaming. I loved that scene with them both when she said about the ocean pity it's not like the book and real!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭Caked Karen


    great thread!

    totally agree with the Bubba thing - would love to see how Ball would even attempt to bring him in - he was great though. he had all the little one liners and even though he was described as not the best looking chap, he just always seemed cute!

    god i pray that the shower scene comes! honestly, i think even all the men who watch the show would enjoy it! it would just be heaven! do you think there is a chance that they will go like the books and Eric will have the memory loss and witches etc - suppose that could happen next season maybe if more of Sookie's "fairyness" is revealed.

    never took to Quinn in the books but i know i cant remember exactly, but which book is it that the King is murdered and the fellowship come to bomb the hotel/conference/trial (i know i am all mixed up but hoping people know what i am on about)...if that get to our tv, it could be epic!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭mandz



    never took to Quinn in the books but i know i cant remember exactly, but which book is it that the King is murdered and the fellowship come to bomb the hotel/conference/trial (i know i am all mixed up but hoping people know what i am on about)...if that get to our tv, it could be epic!!

    That book was "All Together Dead", I'm currently reading from "Dead to Worse". I really tried to warm to Quinn in All Together Dead after finding out his history but just can't. Alcide is kinda my favourite. I liked him when he came in to the books so delighted they've brought him into the tv series.

    Totally with you for bringing the shower scene into the tv show :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭juke


    I haven't seen True Blood yet :o

    I read the books in quick succession earlier in the year, and only found out about the TV show recently. Roll on TG4!

    From what I understand, most of season 1 is just the first book?

    I agree with the comments about the last book - definitely a filler!

    But Quinn....of all Sookie's suiters, he's my fav ! Him or Alcide.

    Maybe I need to see them in flesh, as it were, to appreciate Bill or Eric more :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭mandz


    juke wrote: »
    I haven't seen True Blood yet :o

    I read the books in quick succession earlier in the year, and only found out about the TV show recently. Roll on TG4!

    I hope you recorded it on TG4 last night, they showed the first two episodes last night.
    juke wrote: »

    But Quinn....of all Sookie's suiters, he's my fav ! Him or Alcide.

    Maybe I need to see them in flesh, as it were, to appreciate Bill or Eric more :pac:

    I'm halfway through Dead and Gone now and I have to say I did actually warm to Quinn a little in the end after learning of his history. I thought Sookie was a cow the way she ended it, the poor guy. I can understand her being furious and hurt with how he lead the vamps to her but he made a point when he asked why she was being harder on him. I don't think I want her to end up with Eric, he's too sneaky (yeah I do love his character though) but I think she would be better off with someone like Alcide or Quinn.

    Alcide has been well cast in the show. He is definitely giving Eric a run for his money in my books....:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭juke


    mandz wrote: »
    I hope you recorded it on TG4 last night, they showed the first two episodes last night.

    Watched the first, recorded the second. Thanks Elmo.
    Loved it. Spent ages trying to workout where I know Jason from - Home and Away, lol :pac:

    Like the characters so far, but expected Sam to be more.....I dunno....brawny? He came accross a bit too gentle from what I had imagined.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭Clarehobo


    I am just about to start reading the books again.
    I've read them all, incl the short stories but I keep muddling up which characters should be in which season so hoping this will refresh my memory.

    I have to say: I wasn't a fan of the last two books. It felt like she had too many characters and wasn't able to keep juggling them like she normally could. Also, the writing became very sloppy. If you read the short stories, you can see the difference as they progress: the older ones are more engaging, the later ones feel like she's in a rush somewhere and has to lump something together no matter what it turns out like.
    Hopefully she'll come back to form with the next book, but I'm not holding my breath. While DITF didn't seem as bad as the previous book, she wrapped it up way too quickly and she definitely didn't explore the storylines as well as she could have.

    Anyway - books v's tv show: love the tv show & love the older books. Quinn will be interesting casting, if they cast him at all: I get the vibe that Eric and Sookie will get together sooner rather than wayyyy later. Quinn just felt like a filler between Sookie's time with Bill and her time with Eric but if they get together this season there would be no need for Quinn.
    I find that I am not as interested in life in Bon Temps if the vampires aren't there. Defo need more Pam and Jessica time. And a better sunblock so that the vampires can come out during daylight hours;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    I'm really unimpressed with the change they've made to the people of Hotshot, particularly Calvin. I liked that he was seen as an honourable man in the books...in the tv show he's a V selling, meth dealer. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭shinny


    Chinafoot wrote: »
    I'm really unimpressed with the change they've made to the people of Hotshot, particularly Calvin. I liked that he was seen as an honourable man in the books...in the tv show he's a V selling, meth dealer. :(

    Me too, totally agree. I always thought though when I heard they were doing a TV show how were they going to convey all Sookie's "relationships" without her looking like a slapper. I think this is one they obviously decided to leave even though I know Calvin had a thing for her and not the other way around, but she did flirt with him alot!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭Clarehobo


    Yeah - Calvin was a good guy in the books and Crystal was never worth the time of day.

    I suppose they had to make her more likeable so we'd go for the Jason story line, but all I can think of is how Sookie viewed her in the books i.e. Trouble!

    So is her fiancée going to be the one to bite Jason then?????

    I think TV Jason is a bit too optimistic to turn into a were - how will people react to dark, troubled Jason when they are used to the bright smiley character?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭PARARORY


    I watched the show before I got into the books but the books are brilliant!
    I have to say that the casting is spot on. Especially for Sookie , Pam , Eric and Sam. Tara is less "fierce" in the books I think , and she's not really in the first few which was surprising!

    I couldn't believe that Charlaine Harris is 58 years old and how she can relate to younger people more than alot of my friends (Im 18)

    The addition of Jessica was great , I sort of wish Lafayette had died like in the books , I've slowly begin to hate Bill Compton and wish he would just fúck off sometimes!

    My hopes for the tv show - they need the witches :D especially Amelia , the ectoplasmic reconstruction and all that would be great.


    I can't stand the actress that plays Crystal Norris in the show! I imagined her so differently and she really doesnt suit her.


    Can anyone recommend other books/series that are like the TB one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭shinny


    Ok, I've just watched "Hitting the Ground" and am delighted to see Claudine!! Are we going to see her twin brother too, Claude? I hope that they don't just exist in this "fantasy" world and come into the real world. It would be funny to see Eric, Pam and Bill not being able to control themselves around them!!!

    This is getting very interesting and I can't wait to see next weeks episode :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    I wasn't overly impressed with the casting for Claudine. She's too short and much older than I expected. I'm glad that they're going with the fairy storyline though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭shinny


    Chinafoot wrote: »
    I wasn't overly impressed with the casting for Claudine. She's too short and much older than I expected. I'm glad that they're going with the fairy storyline though.

    I'd agree with that. I pictured her totally differently and really tall too!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭mandz


    Ok I have to squeeze in watching this tonight now I hear Claudine's made an appearance!!

    I have to ask, am I the only one that thinks casting a white wolf for Alcide was a bit silly. I find it hard to believe a were with such dark features would turn into a white wolf. I was disappointed with that.... but not the with the casting of Alcide!! :D

    Finished Dead in the Family at the weekend. I was very disappointed to be honest. I thought the end was rushed. My hope for Sookie and Alcide to get together got a boost though with what Alcide said to Sookie when she went upstairs and what Eric's maker said to Sookie before he died. I got the feeling Sookie and Eric may not be together for much longer with what he said (exact phrase escapes me).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 AB1980!


    1) The explosion in the hotel happened in Rhodes not Dallas so the TV series isn't nearly there yet

    2) I don't think Tara's race was ever specified in the books. I'm rereading them and keeping an eye out for that but I don't think it was. But CH's Bon Temps seems to be much more segregated than Ball's so i think if she were black it would have been mentioned. Anyway I loved her in Series one but I'm over her now. Love love love Lafayette. Apart from naked Skarsgard I think he's the best thing in it.

    3) Really didn't feel Dead in the Family. Not a lot happened and it was a bit patronising. The first few books were really an allegory about racism, but she was really hitting us over the head with the Muslim-American/Shifter subtext in this one, I found it really annoying.

    4) Ball has dropped heavy hints that season 4 will follow Eric's memory loss in Book 4. Yipee!

    5) The show started Jason out on the wrong foot. He is great for comic relief but now his character is so different from the books that all his storylines seem clunky. I don't think it would be any loss to drop them altogether.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 AB1980!


    Now I've started thinking about it I've a few more thoughts!

    6)I think where Ball took a small germ of a character from the books he made something really good out of it:
    Tara (initially) Lafayette, Hoyt, Maxine
    but where he has changed a major character or storyline he has bungled it:
    Sam's background (not enjoying that at all), Jason, Andy, even to a certain extent Sopie Anne and Hadley.

    The big exception is Mary-Anne, minor enough in the book and he ran with it but I didn't enjoy the result, a pretty impressive bit of creative work all the same tho!

    However, that may be my own prejudice in that I am very 'loyal' to the original storylines. I always have a difficulty with adaptations from books so it could be just me.

    7) Sam's family being into dog fighting - does that negate Quinn's family background in the books? Maybe Ball doesn't see himself getting that far with the series and wants to put that theme in earlier?

    8) I felt with Dead in the Family CH was kicking against the series somewhat. Eric's maker was named in an earlier book but bringing him in as such a big character now, in complete divergence with the series, seemed pointed to me. Definitely getting the feeling noone concerned believes True Blood will go to 10 series - I wonder is an end point in mind?

    9) I always imagined Claudine being blonde, even though I think Claude was described as brunette. Again maybe just me. But yes she should have been taller, especially as Sookie should have been seeing them in truer fae form rather than 'passing as human' form.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭panda100


    Guys,I am a BIG fan of Charlaine Harris TB books. I've heared great things about the tv series but I don't want to start watching it in case it ruins my image of the books and characters! I have the same problem when it comes to Dexter too!
    I thought id dip my toe in the water and buy the soundtrack and the music was exactly how I'd imagine Sookie to listen to,its real raw,deep south,rock sexy music.

    Does the tv series have the same storylines as the books?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭neveah


    The 1st series follows the storyline of book 1 rather closely but there are some differences. For example Tara is a much more prominent character on tv than in the books. I loved Tara's storyline with her mother in series 1, I thought the women who played her mother was brilliant. Tara has become rather annoying since IMO.

    You have to watch the series though even if it's just to see Eric and Alcide! Swoon!!:D

    Im not a fan of Bill so I prefer how his and Sookie's relationship plays out in the books. The tv series seems to be setting them up as the main couple even though they do tease the Eric/Sookie relationship they really haven't done much with it so far which is a disappointment as I am a huge Eric and Sookie fan. Fingers crossed season 4 will follow book 4!

    I'd definitely recommend watching the series though. I don't think it will take your enjoyment away from the books.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,924 ✭✭✭✭RolandIRL


    panda100 wrote: »
    Does the tv series have the same storylines as the books?
    it follows the same storys a good bit but there is some major changes to the storylines eg Tara in season 1. i'd definitely watch it though. i saw the first two seasons then decided to read the books. good few changes from the books. the minor characters in the books are really beefed out in the series. we find out much more about Bill, Sam, etc and their backstories/history.

    just read Dead and Gone, and it's a really good read. it's just so easy to get through. going to read Dead in the Family when it comes into the library :)

    DaG had a bit of a predictable ending. i coud just see the fairies doing that to Crystal but it was still a good read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭Clarehobo


    Where to start?!

    I have an awful feeling after the most recent episode that it is not going to develop the way it has in the books. I know Alan Ball mentioned at comic con that he thought Sookie and Bill belonged together.
    Plus you have the obvious changes in storyline:

    * Eric killed Longshadow in the book and paid a hefty penalty for it: Bill saved Sookie from the vamp on TV
    * Eric regravelled Sookie's drive when he realised she couldn't afford it: on TV Sookie negotiated her pay packet for the Dallas trip so she could regravel her drive
    * Sookie gets staked in Jackson and has to take blood from Eric so she can rescue Bill the next day, inadvertently strengthening their blood tie: on TV all that has gone out the window and Eric has come across as a very conniving being

    So, the question is: is there any hope for Sookie and Eric?
    All the consideration and kindness he showed her in the book has been conveniently forgotten and he is looking like he thinks of her as a commodity rather than someone he is developing feelings for...

    And the whole sending Hadley to warn her against Bill: how was that meant to work Eric???

    I know Ball mentioned that series 4 will follow the book but part of the reason she took Eric in in the first place was he had been good to her so...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    I still think Bill and Sookie are going to reunite in the books. Her with Eric never felt right for me at all. The only one I would have been somewhat happy for her to be with was Alcide.

    Remember Sookie's great grandfather told her "He's a good man" before he left her? And Sookie thinks "he never said which man he was talking about." So I don't think Bill and Sookie are done yet. The introduction of Lorena's other child in the last book may spark some jealousy for Sookie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭Clarehobo


    Chinafoot wrote: »
    I still think Bill and Sookie are going to reunite in the books. Her with Eric never felt right for me at all. The only one I would have been somewhat happy for her to be with was Alcide.

    Remember Sookie's great grandfather told her "He's a good man" before he left her? And Sookie thinks "he never said which man he was talking about." So I don't think Bill and Sookie are done yet. The introduction of Lorena's other child in the last book may spark some jealousy for Sookie.

    Yeah - I think Harris hasn't a clue how to resolve Sookie's love life: unless Hunter's dad conveniently turns into a non-threatening, normal, human suitor complete with ready made family;)

    I just think that the TV Eric is not as tuned in to Sookie as in the books so I'm just struggling as to how they are going to attempt to write the amnesia/shelter/love thing in Series 4. Don't get me wrong: I love the writing and the divergence of the series from the book storyline but considering how much has passed between Eric and Sookie this season they'll have to really do some repair work before the end of the season. Maybe Eric will out Bill's ulterior motive in one of the next few episodes and that'll be the final straw for Sookie as regards Bill and clearing the decks for next season's houseguest.

    With regards to the books:

    Ultimately Bill & Sookie's relationship was a lie from the beginning. How is she ever to trust him again? There is still love there, but there will always be that niggling doubt.

    Eric has been nothing but honest with her on every level about his willingness to protect her, but not die for her. He's always taken care of her without her needing to hint: monetarily, blood, etc... His only flaw is he is too honest and practical. I have an awful feeling that for all his protesting that he won't die for her, Harris will kill him off protecting her.

    Alcide: chemistry is there but I think too much has passed between them. He has written her off quite a few times and used her for his own ends without asking her.

    Quinn: the only guy that seemed to genuinely care for her, not her abilities. If his mum and sister could conveniently die...

    Sam: we all know he's a good guy and if Sookie had to settle for anyone, she'd be stupid not to settle for Sam but Sookie won't settle for just anyone...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭E.T.


    I agree with you about the tv Eric Clarehobo - it's hard to see how Alan Ball can introduce a closer bond between Sookie and Eric. In the books it's done bit by bit, but this 3rd tv series hasn't done much to tell this part of the story. It's odd because I thought he did a good job of developing their relationship in the second series, he seems to have just abandoned that thread in the new series. It's one of the only things that's disappointing me about the series. Maybe there'll be some huge revelations in the last 2 episodes that'll make up for it!


    I think introducing Quinn in the tv series would make everything too complicated. There's so many different character storylines as it is! Alcide's character wasn't really developed at all in this series, he's more of a mechanism and intro to werewolves than an actual personality.

    With regard to the books - please don't let her kill Eric off!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭Clarehobo


    lol - huge revelation in the second last episode!

    DO NOT READ NEXT BIT IF YOU ARE NOT UP TO DATE ON US SERIES
    Sookie hates all vampires now!
    No bridge building at all between her and Eric: maybe she'll change her mind when she realises he did it all to save the World from Russell.
    Alcide seems to have disappeared altogether.
    Roll on the end of the series in two weeks - I wonder are they going to set up the Eric storyline at the very end of the episode?

    Next series: More Eric, Less Bill, woohoo!!!


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