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Specific Highlighting of certain players.

  • 30-06-2010 10:53am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭


    Now I know this topic has been done to death, but a recent incident highlighted the huge inconsistancy in the GAA. What shocked me the most is that, despite reading all the newspaper reports on the weekends GAA games, and watching the Sunday game's analysis of the Qualifiers, there was not one mention of this incident.
    Thomas Corr, the Cavan fullback was sent off on a second yellow card for striking. On his way off, he turned around and pushed the referee in the chest. so why is it that no one is calling for a 6 month ban (a la Galvin). No wonder Galvin is getting so many suspensions, as his every action is scrutinised. Now don't get me wrong, I think a 6 month ban would be way over the top, however what im trying to highlight is the inconsistancy of punishment. As far as im aware, the CCCCCCCetc aren't looking into the incident. I know this seems like another "Galvin is an angel he's everyone is out to get him" thread, but can anyone see why Galvin got a 6 month (reduced to 3 month) ban for slapping the referee's book, and why the Cavan fullback will most likely play next week after pushing the referee?

    Say what you like about Galvin, but it must be pretty tough seeing that go unnoticed.

    Incident can be seen here: http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/mediaplayer.html at 3:30

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    It's a bit of a joke alright, but it's unlikely to change any time soon.

    The simple fact of the matter is, Galvin has drawn additional scrutiny on himself by repeatedly being sent off for some pretty bad stuff - it's fair enough that his behaviour is watch more closely than an unknown corner back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭dcr22B


    Lads, are you remotely surprised?

    It's the same thing when it comes to hyping up the Dubs etc etc etc

    The more popular/successful you are, the harder they want to see you fall although Galvin hasn't always helped himself in that regard to be fair.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    DDC1990 wrote: »
    Thomas Corr, the Cavan fullback was sent off on a second yellow card for striking. On his way off, he turned around and pushed the referee in the chest. so why is it that no one is calling for a 6 month ban (a la Galvin). No wonder Galvin is getting so many suspensions, as his every action is scrutinised. Now don't get me wrong, I think a 6 month ban would be way over the top, however what im trying to highlight is the inconsistancy of punishment. As far as im aware, the CCCCCCCetc aren't looking into the incident. I know this seems like another "Galvin is an angel he's everyone is out to get him" thread, but can anyone see why Galvin got a 6 month (reduced to 3 month) ban for slapping the referee's book, and why the Cavan fullback will most likely play next week after pushing the referee?

    The CCC cannot look into the incident unless it was reported as such in the referee report and they want to take the incident further, or someone submitted a complaint. I am full sure that if there is a mention of it in the refs report, which there should be if it was a blatant push, then it will be dealt with - they have dealt with issues from senior inter county challenge games, so I don't see any reason why they would not

    Keane2097 is right, Galvin brings the attention on himself with his stupid uncalled for actions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭Limerick_Lass


    How is Cadogan getting away with it?! :)


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    How is Cadogan getting away with it?! :)

    Getting away with what?


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    Getting away with what?

    Dont feed the troll


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Getting away with what?
    castie wrote: »
    Dont feed the troll

    Any suggestions that Cadogan has been an innocent party in the several incidents he has had with Paul Galvin this year are naiive in the extreme tbh.

    EDIT: At best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭Limerick_Lass


    castie wrote: »
    Dont feed the troll

    :eek:

    Surprised that came from a moderator...(oh I see, Cork)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭sonic boom


    dcr22B wrote: »
    Lads, are you remotely surprised?

    It's the same thing when it comes to hyping up the Dubs etc etc etc

    The more popular/successful you are, the harder they want to see you fall although Galvin hasn't always helped himself in that regard to be fair.


    true but the gaa is strange like that. when you see the likes of tommy walsh of kilkenny getin away with breaking hurleys off people in the hurling then when it comes to football they throw the book at galvan for comparitably lesser offences then it takes from the credibility of the disiplinary process. we need consistency.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    sonic boom wrote: »
    true but the gaa is strange like that. when you see the likes of tommy walsh of kilkenny getin away with breaking hurleys off people in the hurling then when it comes to football they throw the book at galvan for comparitably lesser offences then it takes from the credibility of the disiplinary process. we need consistency.
    It happens in hurling. I was watching the game. The ball was there to be won. He was entitled to pull. Get over it.

    I agree about Galvin though. He does seem to be overly-scrutinized but then again some, not all, of the stuff he does deserves to be. He is a great footballer and should really never have to resort to that kind of behaviour.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭sonic boom


    K4t wrote: »
    It happens in hurling. I was watching the game. The ball was there to be won. He was entitled to pull. Get over it.

    I agree about Galvin though. He does seem to be overly-scrutinized but then again some, not all, of the stuff he does deserves to be. He is a great footballer and should really never have to resort to that kind of behaviour.

    you say the ball was there to be won yet he diddnt hit the ball did he?! no he belted the galway player from behind and broke his hurley off not the ball, not the other lads hurley but the actual player. you dont have to take my word for it check the replay. the rest of the country saw it, maybe you will too. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭dartbhoy


    We could be debating and posting all night about certain players been targeted and certain players getting off scot free all the time. The bottom line is there needs to be a serious overhaul of the disciplinary procedures in the GAA. The criticism of the Sunday Game highlighting certain incidents is over the top,the analysts are there to do a job not to target certain players. These players wouldn't be pinpointed in the 1st place if they played within the laws of the game.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    :eek:

    Surprised that came from a moderator...(oh I see, Cork)

    Youve come in with a blanket statement designed to get a rise out of people.

    "Trolling is the act of purposefully antagonizing other people on the internet, generally on message boards."

    So yeah I stand by my comment.

    As for me being a mod and you not approving of my comment.



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    keane2097 wrote: »
    Any suggestions that Cadogan has been an innocent party in the several incidents he has had with Paul Galvin this year are naiive in the extreme tbh.

    EDIT: At best.

    Wouldnt even try and say that but hes done nothing to "get away with" that I can see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    K4t wrote: »
    It happens in hurling. I was watching the game. The ball was there to be won. He was entitled to pull. Get over it.

    I agree about Galvin though. He does seem to be overly-scrutinized but then again some, not all, of the stuff he does deserves to be. He is a great footballer and should really never have to resort to that kind of behaviour.


    I would half agree re Walsh, it was a bad yellow card offence, a reckless pull, nothing that does not happen in most games. Anything he does tends to get highlighted though.

    But Galvin in my opinion attracts a lot of the attention on to himself. he actively seeks confrontation and if he gets it on the pitch and in the analysis he is as much to blame as anyone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭sonic boom


    i disagree, i think the problem is that what he does DOESNT get highlighted. they didnt even show it on the sunday game last night whereas they always show galvans incidents.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    sonic boom wrote: »
    i disagree, i think the problem is that what he does DOESNT get highlighted. they didnt even show it on the sunday game last night whereas they always show galvans incidents.

    In fairness though swinging across a player happens quite frequently in hurling so its understandable it wasnt focused on. Sticking a finger in someones mouth however...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    K4t wrote: »
    It happens in hurling. I was watching the game. The ball was there to be won. He was entitled to pull. Get over it.

    Do you really think that this can be excused?You are NEVER entitled to pull when behind a player and the only thing you can hope to hit is another player. The ball wasn't there for Walsh to win from that position, it was 3 feet away from where he hit Smith. Walsh should have the summer off for this:
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    imaged 'borrowed' from joyce country's post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭Shane732


    I can't believe Cadogan got away with it. If that had been anyone else apart from Galvin there would have been uproar about it.

    Galvin may not have helped himself in prior years but personally I feel that he's somewhat moved on from how he just to react on the GAA pitch. Galvin is about the best player in the country at the moment - he totally lights up the Kerry team when he's on the field. That's some achievement considering the quality in the Kerry team.

    I'm a Meath man through and through but it's just wrong how Galvin has been treated by the GAA.

    In relation to Walsh - it was a completely wreckless swing. The ball was not there to be won. He clearly hits across the other player - there was no hope of him getting the ball. He lashed out in anger and should have been taking an early trip to the showers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭Limerick_Lass


    Shane732 wrote: »
    I can't believe Cadogan got away with it. If that had been anyone else apart from Galvin there would have been uproar about it.

    Galvin may not have helped himself in prior years but personally I feel that he's somewhat moved on from how he just to react on the GAA pitch. Galvin is about the best player in the country at the moment - he totally lights up the Kerry team when he's on the field. That's some achievement considering the quality in the Kerry team.

    I'm a Meath man through and through but it's just wrong how Galvin has been treated by the GAA.

    In relation to Walsh - it was a completely wreckless swing. The ball was not there to be won. He clearly hits across the other player - there was no hope of him getting the ball. He lashed out in anger and should have been taking an early trip to the showers.

    You will get a go off a mod for that one!! :rolleyes:

    But I totally agree with you and Im not from Kerry either!


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    You will get a go off a mod for that one!! :rolleyes:

    But I totally agree with you and Im not from Kerry either!

    How abut you answer the question I asked and say what Cadogen "got away with"? How about you back up those claims with some evidence instead of just throwing out a random troll comment??


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    K4t wrote: »
    It happens in hurling. I was watching the game. The ball was there to be won. He was entitled to pull. Get over it.

    The ball was not there to be won, he pulled across Smith's legs with the intention of hurting him, he couldn't even see the ball with Smith between him and the ball just look how high he pulls instead of near the ground if he was actually going for the ball.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    How abut you answer the question I asked and say what Cadogen "got away with"? How about you back up those claims with some evidence instead of just throwing out a random troll comment??

    jumping on galvins back in the league game, getting him sent off.

    claiming the red card incident led to him having a tooth knocked out, when its clear it happened in another incident.

    being in galvins face, giving him extreme abuse, almost (or indeed trying to)biting him in the face,yet playing the innocent victim, crying to the ref when he had a finger put in his mouth then.

    it is pretty amazing the sunday game edited out the bit 2 seconds before the hand in mouth incident where cadogen was giving extreme abuse to galvin too.

    this lad getting away with this is a disgrace and with canty have his red card rescined, tis no wonder us kerry people feel sick.

    suppose banning our players is the only way to stop us reaching 7 finals in a row.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    Shane732 wrote: »
    I can't believe Cadogan got away with it. If that had been anyone else apart from Galvin there would have been uproar about it.


    Again...what exactly is IT?

    Did he throw stones at handicapped people?

    Did he plant a bomb on a plane?

    If your going to be outraged that he got away with IT how about you tell everyone else what IT actually is first?.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    You will get a go off a mod for that one!! :rolleyes:

    But I totally agree with you and Im not from Kerry either!


    Are mods some sort of amusement ride that people can "get a go off".

    Wasnt in my contract! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Cadogan hasn't been caught doing anything major out of the way yet. Well besides grabbing Galvin by the throat in the league game, and then running from a long distance away to wrestle him to the ground in a headlock. He has taken over from O'Leary as Corks "Chief-Galvin-Winder-Upper"* Cork know he can be got at, and while this is highly unsporting, they get away with this goading, and baiting as there is no rule against it in the GAA. Not complaining, thats just the way it is. Its now up to Galvin to show a bit of maturity and ignore this goading, maybe resort to it himself... anything but get caught doing the stupid things he has done in the past. I fear that Kerry have become very cynical recently, adn are losing sight of whats important. The football. Hopefully Jack will shake them all up, and they can go on to win another All Ireland.


    *disclaimer, may not be an official title.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    castie wrote: »
    Again...what exactly is IT?

    Did he throw stones at handicapped people?


    Did he plant a bomb on a plane?

    If your going to be outraged that he got away with IT how about you tell everyone else what IT actually is first?.

    No however one of your watercarriers ended up throwing water on some fans in wheelchairs in PUC, attempting to soak some Kerry fans. So far off topic I know, but your statement reminded me of this.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    jumping on galvins back in the league game, getting him sent off.

    claiming the red card incident led to him having a tooth knocked out, when its clear it happened in another incident.

    being in galvins face, giving him extreme abuse, almost (or indeed trying to)biting him in the face,yet playing the innocent victim, crying to the ref when he had a finger put in his mouth then.

    it is pretty amazing the sunday game edited out the bit 2 seconds before the hand in mouth incident where cadogen was giving extreme abuse to galvin too.

    this lad getting away with this is a disgrace and with canty have his red card rescined, tis no wonder us kerry people feel sick.

    suppose banning our players is the only way to stop us reaching 7 finals in a row.

    So Galvin did nothing to get sent off in the league? Didnt stick his finger in his mouth that time either no? Cadogen may have started it but he got his marching orders too so hardly got away with that.

    Where did he claim his tooth was knocked out in the red card incident and if he did how clear is it he didnt? i.e show some proof please.

    Being in Galvins face? if it was an offense (at something to be "getting away with" ) to be in someones face in a GAA game thered be alot less than 30 on the field afterwards.

    Attempting to bite him on the nose? Really? Ive even heard from two kerry lads that work with me that its obvious cadogen is screaming at galvin and thats why his mouth is open.

    So really without some proof about him making false allegations (which last I heard cant be punished by the GAA either ) I fail to see him getting away with anything that he hasnt been punished for.

    Cantys red card was rescinded as the video evidence showed he hadnt tripped the Gooch at all.

    Galvin got banned as the video evidence showed he had put his finger in another players mouth.

    Wont even dignify the last comment with a response.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    DDC1990 wrote: »
    No however one of your watercarriers ended up throwing water on some fans in wheelchairs in PUC, attempting to soak some Kerry fans. So far off topic I know, but your statement reminded me of this.

    Just like to clear up that hes not "MY" watercarrier and neither are the players "Mine" either.


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    DDC1990 wrote: »
    Cadogan hasn't been caught doing anything major out of the way yet. Well besides grabbing Galvin by the throat in the league game, and then running from a long distance away to wrestle him to the ground in a headlock. He has taken over from O'Leary as Corks "Chief-Galvin-Winder-Upper"* Cork know he can be got at, and while this is highly unsporting, they get away with this goading, and baiting as there is no rule against it in the GAA. Not complaining, thats just the way it is. Its now up to Galvin to show a bit of maturity and ignore this goading, maybe resort to it himself... anything but get caught doing the stupid things he has done in the past. I fear that Kerry have become very cynical recently, adn are losing sight of whats important. The football. Hopefully Jack will shake them all up, and they can go on to win another All Ireland.


    *disclaimer, may not be an official title.

    I agree it seems Cadogen is going out to wind Galvin up as part of an overall plan. Cant really blame them if they see his temperment as a weak link, I know I have done and will do in rugby.

    he needs to learn to ignore it, if he responds by goading back then hes opening himself up for getting carded twice for incidents with different players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    sonic boom wrote: »
    i disagree, i think the problem is that what he does DOESNT get highlighted. they didnt even show it on the sunday game last night whereas they always show galvans incidents.


    Is the weekends incident not being highlighted right now? It was a fairly wild pull yes, but in my opinion no worse than what goes on in any game some of which are penalised with at worse a yellow card and some of which are not. The ball was there, he swung wildly, and it was unlikely he was going to get it. The ref dealt with it as he saw fit.

    I'm not a killkenny fan, in fact I hope they dont win an allirelnd this year but I do think Tommy Walsh gets more message board and media attention than many equivalently physical defenders. Its a physical game and the best backs are going to be more aggresive than the rest, thats why they are the best, and Tommy is the very best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭Shane732


    castie wrote: »
    Again...what exactly is IT?

    Did he throw stones at handicapped people?

    Did he plant a bomb on a plane?

    If your going to be outraged that he got away with IT how about you tell everyone else what IT actually is first?.

    [url]<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/xqYgQp9IXfs&hl=en_US&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/xqYgQp9IXfs&hl=en_US&fs=1&quot; type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

    There ya go.... Is IT not pretty clear?[/url]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Look its clear that Cadogan is a pup* (for want of a better word). He goes out looking for that reaction from Galvin and complains when he gets it.

    HOWEVER: This does not put Galvin in the right. He is responsible for his own anger and should control it.

    Which raises another point. Surely there should be a rule, for sportsmanship reasons, against Goading oppostion players? I think its the same to scream blue murder in a guys face, then it is to push him in the chest. I know guys get fired up, but it is so unsporting to scream in a guys face. Likewise to celebrate in an opposing players face after a score should be a yellow card offence. I certainly wasnt happy in 2008 when Bryan Cullen (normally a v.sporting player) screamed in Declan O'Sullivan's face, after he kicked a wide. It all seems against the spirit of the game.I don't know, am I making too much of an issue of this simply because a Kerry player is involved?

    *If people find that to be personal abuse i can change it, im just not sure of an appropriate word.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    DDC1990 wrote: »
    Look its clear that Cadogan is a pup* (for want of a better word). He goes out looking for that reaction from Galvin and complains when he gets it.

    HOWEVER: This does not put Galvin in the right. He is responsible for his own anger and should control it.

    Which raises another point. Surely there should be a rule, for sportsmanship reasons, against Goading oppostion players? I think its the same to scream blue murder in a guys face, then it is to push him in the chest. I know guys get fired up, but it is so unsporting to scream in a guys face. Likewise to celebrate in an opposing players face after a score should be a yellow card offence. I certainly wasnt happy in 2008 when Bryan Cullen (normally a v.sporting player) screamed in Declan O'Sullivan's face, after he kicked a wide. It all seems against the spirit of the game.

    I remember Shane Ryan from Dublin screaming and goading at Denis Glennon of Westmeath there years ago after he kicked a few wides in a Leinster Championship game. Nothing more disguisting to see someone do that. No need for it at all. It was good to know that Shane Ryan had nothing to goad about after that though in the later stages of the AI. I think if someone is caught doing it, It should be at the very least a yellow card and if its missed by ref but caught on video evidence, the player involved should be brought before the CCCC and they should then impose some sort of a ban for it. I dont care its thuggery and it needs to be cut out IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭Limerick_Lass


    Obviously the Cork people here are going to claim Cadogan as innocent, so Im not here to keep the Cork Kerry slagging match alive.

    But what I disagree with is the unbalance with certain refereeing decisions.
    Thomas O Shea should have definately been sent off in last Sundays Munster Final.
    Imagine if this was a Cadogan and Galvin incident, suppose Galvin would have been sent off and probably suspended, do you think Cadogan would stick up for him, like Kelly has done for O shea?!


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    Obviously the Cork people here are going to claim Cadogan as innocent, so Im not here to keep the Cork Kerry slagging match alive.

    But what I disagree with is the unbalance with certain refereeing decisions.
    Thomas O Shea should have definately been sent off in last Sundays Munster Final.
    Imagine if this was a Cadogan and Galvin incident, suppose Galvin would have been sent off and probably suspended, do you think Cadogan would stick up for him, like Kelly has done for O shea?!

    Comparing Thomas to Paul is an insult to Thomas. Ive met the guy and had the pleasure of having a pint with him. A complete gentleman whose act was completely out of character and even the limerick guy has recognised this. Paul however does not have so clean a reputation. I know which one Id be more likely to stick up for afterwards.

    Also please for the love of god stop spreading BS saying the cork people here are saying Cadogen is innocent. I for one have already said he deserved the red in the league and that he was goading Galvin in both games, No one here has claimed hes innocent except you claiming that people have claimed it. You are blatently trolling Cork people here or else why bother to mention it?


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    Shane732 wrote: »
    [url]<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/xqYgQp9IXfs&hl=en_US&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/xqYgQp9IXfs&hl=en_US&fs=1&quot; type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

    There ya go.... Is IT not pretty clear?[/url]

    Hes shouting in his face, hes pretty close and some people have said hes trying to bite galvin on the nose. I disagree but your entitled to your opinion (it seems my opinion is the same as the CCC). So are you saying hes trying to bite him? Or are you saying that hes "getting away with" shouting in his face?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭dcr22B


    teednab-el wrote: »
    I remember Shane Ryan from Dublin screaming and goading at Denis Glennon of Westmeath there years ago after he kicked a few wides in a Leinster Championship game.
    Trust a Corkman to pick a Dub out of it to take the attention off the skullduggery of his own player.

    If you actually bothered to look in to the buildup to that game, Mr Glennon was quoted in an article in the run-up to the game as not rating Dublin at all so in my eyes, he got everything he deserved that day as if he even had an ounce of talent that Rhino has, he would have kicked the Lake County to victory that day.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    DDC1990 wrote: »
    Look its clear that Cadogan is a pup* (for want of a better word). He goes out looking for that reaction from Galvin and complains when he gets it.

    I disagree with him being a pup for the reason that I feel hes being sent out there to do this by management and hasnt just decided himself to go wind Galvin up. I think it is a tactic and have seen it used in the past where you get a player to wind up an opposition player eventually ref gets fed up and books both then you rotate the player and repeat trying for a second booking.

    As for rules about screaming at players I dont think it would work. When players win frees in football and hurling they do tend to react to (sometimes shout at) the nearest opposition players which could also then be put down under that rule.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    castie wrote: »
    I disagree with him being a pup for the reason that I feel hes being sent out there to do this by management and hasnt just decided himself to go wind Galvin up. I think it is a tactic and have seen it used in the past where you get a player to wind up an opposition player eventually ref gets fed up and books both then you rotate the player and repeat trying for a second booking.

    As for rules about screaming at players I dont think it would work. When players win frees in football and hurling they do tend to react to (sometimes shout at) the nearest opposition players which could also then be put down under that rule.

    Ah yeah, this is what I think should be iradicated. We are taught at U10's, if you give away a free, put the ball down and walk (or run once you get to the older levels) away quietly. Why not coach youngsters to do the same after winning a free. No need to shout at anyone, fired up or not. Just take the free, celebrate to the crowd if you score, but no need to target players.


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    DDC1990 wrote: »
    Ah yeah, this is what I think should be iradicated. We are taught at U10's, if you give away a free, put the ball down and walk (or run once you get to the older levels) away quietly. Why not coach youngsters to do the same after winning a free. No need to shout at anyone, fired up or not. Just take the free, celebrate to the crowd if you score, but no need to target players.

    It is kind of understandable though. The rush of knowing that the only way this guy could stop you was giving away a free and letting him know it. More psychological I would of thought than goading (your man exerting the fact that you must foul him to stop him).


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    Shane732 wrote: »
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    There ya go.... Is IT not pretty clear?[/url]

    Oh and since youve brought up this video....

    What does Galvin do after He and Cadogen go to the floor?

    Am I seeing things ( as aparantly im blinded by a red haze ) or does he not once but twice stick his fingers in cadogens mouth and THEN stick his hands in the air towards the linesman saying "hey I've done nothing here".

    To explain the reason Im so appalled by this action is that myself Ive taken punches in games and kicks and bad/late/off the ball tackles. Was I pissed? Of course. Did i note a number to seek revenge later? I most surely did. Did I react on the spot? Sometimes with a bit of grappling. However if someone stuck a finger in my mouth......there had better be a quick response or Im going to pummel the living daylights out of him until I am dragged off, because that is an absolutely disgusting and revolting thing to do. Call me a scumbag for what Id do if you want but I don't care.


    P.S Id also like to say the health risks of doing such a thing are huge. As you wont know the medical history of the player doing it. All it would take is a small open wound on a finger and you could be in serious trouble. ( Theres a reason most doctors wear gloves...)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭Shane732


    castie wrote: »
    Hes shouting in his face, hes pretty close and some people have said hes trying to bite galvin on the nose. I disagree but your entitled to your opinion (it seems my opinion is the same as the CCC). So are you saying hes trying to bite him? Or are you saying that hes "getting away with" shouting in his face?

    Yeah and Graham Geraghty only knocked the book out of the refs hand during that infamous league game because there was a bee about to sting him. The bee then subsequently moved to the refs face so that’s why he slapped the ref - to kill the bee.

    Clearly a load of horse ****.

    A few questions:

    1. Do you see a biting motion towards Galvins nose in the video? - Just a yes or no answer will suffice.
    2. If the answer to 1 is no - have you considered going to specsavers?
    3. You've noted how you'd react in certain circumstances on a GAA pitch - how would you react if someone tried to bite you?
    Your comments in relation to how you would react are basically supporting Galvin. i.e. Someone tried to bite Galvin and he acted just as you have stated you would react in certain situations.

    I don't know whether that part of the comment was in support of Galvin or not!

    I have no ties with Cork or Kerry. I'm a neutral, which you clearly are not.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    Shane732 wrote: »
    Yeah and Graham Geraghty only knocked the book out of the refs hand during that infamous league game because there was a bee about to sting him. The bee then subsequently moved to the refs face so that’s why he slapped the ref - to kill the bee.

    Clearly a load of horse ****.

    A few questions:

    1. Do you see a biting motion towards Galvins nose in the video? - Just a yes or no answer will suffice.
    2.
    3. You've noted how you'd react in certain circumstances on a GAA pitch - how would you react if someone tried to bite you?
    Your comments in relation to how you would react are basically supporting Galvin. i.e. Someone tried to bite Galvin and he acted just as you have stated you would react in certain situations.

    I don't know whether that part of the comment was in support of Galvin or not!

    I have no ties with Cork or Kerry. I'm a neutral, which you clearly are not.

    As I said earlier I think he was shouting in galvins face which funnily enough requires your mouth to open up and close repeatedly ( Whod a thunk it? )
    And to be honest Id trust the overall judgement of the CCC and GAA over your opinion of what happened on that video everytime.


    As for this piece of rubbish "he acted just as you have stated you would react"
    Galvin in no way acted anything like me. How dare you even suggest that I would put my fingers in another players mouth as a reaction. Its despicable, disgusting and only a true scumbag would even attempt it. If Galvin had thought Cadogen was trying to bite him ( natural reaction is to get your nose out of there which he didnt do but anyway ) then by all means throw a punch. That would be understandable and probably wouldnt even of gotten banned for it.

    "I'm a neutral" - Dont kid yourself, Your carrying a chip and its more than obvious.

    Learn to get over yourself and your opinions cause guess what, thats exactly what they are "your opinions" I dont agree with them but hey there yours and your entitled to them. However berating other peoples opinions "If the answer to 1 is no - have you considered going to specsavers?" is a tad juvenille and only goes to show how childish you in fact really are. Some adults here (until you act like one your a child as far as im concerned ) can have a debate from opposite sides of the fence and not agree but still stay civil. So how about you take the kiddy training wheels off your dicussion bike and actually discuss matters as an adult? Alternatively you can continue as are and I will return like with like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    i don't know how cadagon is getting away with it it either! he should have been sanctioned aswell! there is a clip on you tube where it shows that cadagon bit galvin's finger before the incident! there is another clip of him grabbing galvin by the throat which is awful blackguarding! the cork player that tripped and rammed his neck around gooch in the replay should have gotten a least a yellow card if not a red card!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭An Citeog


    Some of these posts are starting to cross the line as to what's acceptable in this forum. Please argue your point without taking petty potshots at other posters/groups of fans. Consider this a warning.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    i don't know how cadagon is getting away with it it either! he should have been sanctioned aswell! there is a clip on you tube where it shows that cadagon bit galvin's finger before the incident! there is another clip of him grabbing galvin by the throat which is awful blackguarding! the cork player that tripped and rammed his neck around gooch in the replay should have gotten a least a yellow card if not a red card!

    Got a link for that youtube clip?

    Saw the bit where he grabbed him by the throat alright.
    Thats a very worrying thing thats creeping into the game as well that needs to be stamped out

    "the cork player that tripped and rammed his neck around gooch"

    Not sure exactly what you mean by that above though?

    On that point though I think refs seem more hesitant to give yellows for fouls on lets say "usual suspects". By this I mean the Gooch gets fouled alot in games. Hes a class act and teams target him to shut him down. Problem for refs here is that they must have in the back of their mind that theres going to be alot more fouls on this player by the same players to come hence they maybe hold off on cards for the lower scale fouls that would result in a yellow if on anyone else.
    just my opinion not sure if its right or not.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    i don't know how cadagon is getting away with it it either! he should have been sanctioned aswell! there is a clip on you tube where it shows that cadagon bit galvin's finger before the incident! there is another clip of him grabbing galvin by the throat which is awful blackguarding! the cork player that tripped and rammed his neck around gooch in the replay should have gotten a least a yellow card if not a red card!

    Kavanagh got a yellow and was hauled off pretty quickly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    castie wrote: »
    Got a link for that youtube clip?

    Saw the bit where he grabbed him by the throat alright.
    Thats a very worrying thing thats creeping into the game as well that needs to be stamped out

    "the cork player that tripped and rammed his neck around gooch"

    Not sure exactly what you mean by that above though?

    On that point though I think refs seem more hesitant to give yellows for fouls on lets say "usual suspects". By this I mean the Gooch gets fouled alot in games. Hes a class act and teams target him to shut him down. Problem for refs here is that they must have in the back of their mind that theres going to be alot more fouls on this player by the same players to come hence they maybe hold off on cards for the lower scale fouls that would result in a yellow if on anyone else.
    just my opinion not sure if its right or not.

    a cork player had tripped gooch at least once or twice in the match and wasnt fouled for it. a cork player had his two hands around gooch's neck in another incident.


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