Blaring party music

Gaunty

Heya lads and ladies. I'm just curious where i stand in the eyes of the law if there is a party absolutely full volume next door to me. I already went in and asked them to turn it down a bit but they haven't so far. I called the guards but they told me it wasn't their business and it's a department of the environment complaint. I thought that it was a Garda problem at this hour and if it is a house party. Anyone ever had this problem before? Cos i need to get up for work in the morning and i am sure other people on the street do too!

ddef

Nobody.
Not even the Gardaí.
CAN STOP THE TUNES!

starbelgrade

The Guards can't really do anything about it - the Dept of the Environment deal with it (I thonk that's the right Dept).. either way, it's a matter for your local or county council to deal with.

It's also a long & drawn out process whic monitors noise levels over a certain period, whic is damn all use to you now I'm afraid.

kumate_champ07

the Gardaí knocked on my window one night because a neighbour complained about the noise, it wasnt even up loud. this was in run down block of flats.

maybe it depends where you are or how busy they are.

Flojo

Hmm you're hardly living in Galway?

Sharpshooter

You could ask here OP.

I don't know if it will help, but it might be worth a shot.

I'm not saying you will get an answer straight away, but for future reference?

Gaunty

Flojo wrote: »

Hmm you're hardly living in Galway?

Nope, i'm down in the sunny south east of Wexford. :P Your suffering too then?

dammitjanet

My sister has this problem every so often and the guards always sort it for her.

It helps to call your local Garda station and be a pissed off hormonal woman with three young children screaming in the background...

...Good luck!

Gaunty

Sharpshooter wrote: »

You could ask here OP.

I don't know if it will help, but it might be worth a shot.

I'm not saying you will get an answer straight away, but for future reference?

Cheers but i don't think it's going to help me at this stage, i was mainly just venting! Am going to have to just try put the head down and sleep through it. But i'll keep the link in mind in case they are the same tomorrow.

Gaunty

dammitjanet wrote: »

My sister has this problem every so often and the guards always sort it for her.

It helps to call your local Garda station and be a pissed off hormonal woman with three young children screaming in the background...

...Good luck!

Right, now all i need to do is kidnap a hormonal woman and her three kids so she can sort it for me. :P Is my own fault for being a calm, rational and fair person on the phone to the guard. Nothing gets done that way!

x PyRo

Being on boards isn't going to help your chances of sleeping tbh.

Gaunty

It's better than lying in bed thinking murderous thoughts though. Although there's an idea. I could call the guards, say i am about to stab a few people at the party and i guarentee 3 squad cars would be here within 5 minutes!

JupiterKid

I know exactly how the OP feels.:(

The house behind mine and another two doors down the road have been having very loud parties that have gone on until 6am in the morning over the past few months and while I don't mind people having parties this is just not fair - especially on work nights.:mad:

I've tried the Gardai and they are useless - they shrug it off and say that it's a matter for your local authority.

To the OP - do you have a resident's association or committee? They might be of help in sorting this out. Or is the house the parties are in a rented property? In that case, I would get onto the landlord. If it's a block of apartments, maybe the management company could deal with it?

No-one should have to put up with all night parties disturbing their peace.

Sharpshooter

Gaunty wrote: »

It's better than lying in bed thinking murderous thoughts though. Although there's an idea. I could call the guards, say i am about to stab a few people at the party and i guarentee 3 squad cars would be here within 5 minutes!

You won't get much sleep then either tbh.

docdolittle

I have the advantage of knowing I have better and louder speakers than my neighbors :pac: If they played it that loud this late on Tuesday night after asking to turn it down, they'd regret not turning it down pretty soon

Gaunty

JupiterKid wrote: »

I know exactly how the OP feels.:(

The house behind mine and another two doors down the road have been having very loud parties that have gone on until 6am in the morning over he past few months and while I don't mind people having parties this is just not fair - especially on work nights.:mad:

I've tried the Gardai and they are useless - they shrug it off and say that it's a matter for your local authority.

To the OP - do you have a resident's association or committee? They might be of help in sorting this out. Or is the house the parties are in a rented property? In that case, I would get onto the landlord. If it's a block of apartments, maybe the management company could deal with it?

No-one should have to put up with all night parties disturbing their peace.

No residents association or commitee. The house isn't rented, its owned, although the kids are allowed do whatever they like such as tonight. I'll have a word with the parents tomorrow and see if they can see sense and stop letting their little darlings have the run of the area when they feel like it. And sorry to hear your in the same boat!

Gaunty

Sharpshooter wrote: »

You won't get much sleep then either tbh.

Of course i would, i'd be in a warm bed in the barracks away from all this noise. :P

kumate_champ07

Gaunty wrote: »

No residents association or commitee. The house isn't rented, its owned, although the kids are allowed do whatever they like such as tonight. I'll have a word with the parents tomorrow and see if they can see sense and stop letting their little darlings have the run of the area when they feel like it. And sorry to hear your in the same boat!

underage drinking?!

starbelgrade

You could try getting arrested & banged up in a nice warm cell for the night.

Gaunty

More than likely, if i remember correctly the son is 17 and is celebrating his leaving cert i imagine. Which means that a lot of the guests would be underage too.

Sharpshooter

Gaunty wrote: »

It's better than lying in bed thinking murderous thoughts though. Although there's an idea. I could call the guards, say i am about to stab a few people at the party and i guarentee 3 squad cars would be here within 5 minutes!

Sharpshooter wrote: »

You won't get much sleep then either tbh.

Gaunty wrote: »

Of course i would, i'd be in a warm bed in the barracks away from all this noise. :P

starbelgrade wrote: »

You could try getting arrested & banged up in a nice warm cell for the night.

Keep up starbelgrade.:pac:

starbelgrade

Sharpshooter wrote: »

Keep up starbelgrade.:pac:

Sorry, I'm at a party at the minute. The music is so loud it's hard to think.

kumate_champ07

Gaunty wrote: »

More than likely, if i remember correctly the son is 17 and is celebrating his leaving cert i imagine. Which means that a lot of the guests would be underage too.

well then you can get the party shut down

Cypher_sounds

If your still awake throw on some dan o donnell real loud or someone similar he might soothe ya to sleep:P

Ok its loud music but surely if you really wanted to sleep and were tired you would be conked out by now, or is that just me?

JONJO THE MISER

Well that was a great party, time for bed i think have to be up at 2pm tomorrow:D.

NoHornJan

Ring the Gardai again and tell them you think you heard some kind of fighting and brawling going on. Who is to say you didn't with all the loud music? They would have to call then if only just to check and if there is underage drinking going on they would have to do their duty.

hoody

I called the guards on our neighbours when we lived in Galway about 18 months ago. They came out, music stopped, sleep started.

watna

In NZ, they have "noise patrol" where they send people from the council round to test the area to see if the noise is excessive.

I've called it on neighbours twice (we live in a studenty area) and both times the party was shut down and the people dispersed.

I felt a little guilty for being a miserable oul wan.... for about two seconds as peace descended on us.

Snowie

Join them

GarH

docdolittle wrote: »

I have the advantage of knowing I have better and louder speakers than my neighbors :pac: If they played it that loud this late on Tuesday night after asking to turn it down, they'd regret not turning it down pretty soon

I've had to do similar after a weekend of a neighbour partying.

Quick question though. What's the best revenge music to play while they're sleeping off a hangover?

Biggins

Gaunty wrote: »

Heya lads and ladies. I'm just curious where i stand in the eyes of the law if there is a party absolutely full volume next door to me. I already went in and asked them to turn it down a bit but they haven't so far. I called the guards but they told me it wasn't their business and it's a department of the environment complaint. I thought that it was a Garda problem at this hour and if it is a house party. Anyone ever had this problem before? Cos i need to get up for work in the morning and i am sure other people on the street do too!

I suggests you tell them that because of the music, the disturbance that is continuing is one that will "lead to a possible breach of the peace".
Once that is stated, they are under severe pressure to attend to the scene.
(All calls are recorded and a time-log is taken of the call, so when you ring up state "Its now 1.15 in the morning and the music...etc")
If they fail to do so (or show up too many hours later!) and a commotion/trouble breaks out, inquiries would have to be held as to why they did not attend (or quick enough!) - and they don't go down too nicely with the upper management of the Gardi and the politicians. The Gardi at your local station DO know this and in effect, get their asses more quickly to such a scene, even if they like it or not in going.

inforfun

GarH wrote: »

I've had to do similar after a weekend of a neighbour partying.

Quick question though. What's the best revenge music to play while they're sleeping off a hangover?

Doesnt really matter what song or kind of music.
Just pick 1 song, put the cd player on repeat, start playing it loud when you leave home, stop it when you arrive back home.
Repeat this every day for as long as necessary.

Even the best song ever will piss people off that way

phill106

dammitjanet wrote: »

My sister has this problem every so often and the guards always sort it for her.

It helps to call your local Garda station and be a pissed off hormonal woman with three young children screaming in the background...

...Good luck!

See there is one issue with this. The Gardai can call over, and ask them to turn down the music. But they do not have the power to force them to do so. Just to ask. Awkward for the gardai i imagine when someone says no!

danniemcq

throw brick through the window. Then they'll have to call gardai and they'll have to turn down the music when they land. Although you calling them earlier could implicate you. Wear gloves, mask and generic clothes. Nothing with slogans that stand out

Biggins

phill106 wrote: »

See there is one issue with this. The Gardai can call over, and ask them to turn down the music. But they do not have the power to force them to do so. Just to ask. Awkward for the gardai i imagine when someone says no!

Actually if something is occurring that might to a said breach of the peace, any request made from a Garda that is rejected, can lead to the arrest of the rejecting person on the grounds of creating a disturbance - which also might might lead to a breach of the peace!
A night in the cells and hauled up before a judge in the morning (to explain ones behaviour) is not a prospect any party goes relishes - and if he/she does, they are an idiot and deserve all they get!

thebigbiffo

i was at a party at the back of a house in rathmines once. loads of people there. all i remember is taking a piss in a secluded corner of the garden about 1am and 2 garda heads peeping over the wall looking at me. they laughed, told me to zip it up and go home. i looked around and they were everywhere. about 10-15 of them standing on walls around us, on top of the house extentions, they were f'ucking everywhere. there was no trouble at the party at all, just music. they said we were distrubing the peace. sounds to me like they're selective about the 'type' of people they take complaints about this kind of thing from.

phill106

Biggins wrote: »

Actually if something is occurring that might to a said breach of the peace, any request made from a Garda that is rejected, can lead to the arrest of the rejecting person on the grounds of creating a disturbance - which also might might lead to a breach of the peace!
A night in the cells and hauled up before a judge in the morning (to explain ones behaviour) is not a prospect any party goes relishes - and if he/she does, they are an idiot and deserve all they get!

Closest i could find to breach of the peace is this.

CRIMINAL JUSTICE (PUBLIC ORDER) ACT 1994 - SECT 3
"public place" includes—

( a ) any highway,

( b ) any outdoor area to which at the material time members of the public
have or are permitted to have access, whether as of right or as a trespasser
or otherwise, and which is used for public recreational purposes,

( c ) any cemetery or churchyard,

( d ) any premises or other place to which at the material time members of the
public have or are permitted to have access, whether as of right or by express
or implied permission, or whether on payment or otherwise, and

( e ) any train, vessel or vehicle used for the carriage of persons for
reward.

CRIMINAL JUSTICE (PUBLIC ORDER) ACT 1994 - SECT 6

Threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour in public place.

6.—(1) It shall be an offence for any person in a public place to use or
engage in any threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour with intent
to provoke a breach of the peace or being reckless as to whether a breach of
the peace may be occasioned.

(2) A person who is guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable on
summary conviction to a fine not exceeding £500 or to imprisonment for a term
not exceeding 3 months or to both.


So as far as I can see, while they could charge you with it, wouldnt stick!

Biggins

phill106 wrote: »

...So as far as I can see, while they could charge you with it, wouldnt stick!

You missed the point.

If its put across to them that a form of confrontation might occur if they don't attend to the scene and the loudness of the music, THEN a breach of the peace might occur.
Its in their prerogative and official remit to take preventative measures (and attend) and if those measures are not seen to be applied, serious questions will arise at a later date.

Side note: This is part of the legal reason why some people are denied access to bars/disco's etc.
The owners officially can say as part of their "Legal Duty Of Care" that a persons admittance might lead to a said breach of the peace later on that night so they took the proactive action of denying a person access to their property.

phill106

Biggins wrote: »

You missed the point.

If its put across to them that a form of confrontation might occur if they don't attend to the scene and the loudness of the music, THEN a breach of the peace might occur.
Its in their prerogative and official remit to take preventative measures (and attend) and if those measures are not seen to be applied, serious questions will arise at a later date.

Side note: This is part of the legal reason why some people are denied access to bars/disco's etc.
The owners officially can say as part of their "Legal Duty Of Care" that a persons admittance might lead to a said breach of the peace later on that night so they took the proactive action of denying a person access to their property.

I see, but if this confrontation did occur, would the neighbor of the music player not be the instigator of said confrontation, leaving them the ones at fault? After all, the music playing people are in the house, not commiting a crime. If an irate neighbour goes over and starts takin names and kickin ass,while morally i would be on the side of the irate neighbour, but legally they would be fooooked!
Just trying to get my head around it, in case of loud neighbours! Had a tosser used to get drunk and rev the ****e out of his motorbike directly behind my house at 4 in the morning...Grrrr

Biggins

phill106 wrote: »

I see, but if this confrontation did occur, would the neighbor of the music player not be the instigator of said confrontation, leaving them the ones at fault?...

Not necessarily. Its who ever throws the first punch, intimidates (politely requesting music to be turned down is NOT intimidating legally), or causes a "legal" disturbance.

The one that would be charged would be the one that broke the law as its written. However even if that was not the person blaring the music, his/her ass could still be hauled into court to also explain why they brought about the situation in the first place and then find themselves possibly in trouble too.

Had a tosser used to get drunk and rev the ****e out of his motorbike directly behind my house at 4 in the morning...Grrrr

I had that on Christmas morning at 4.20am
Wife and I woke up to it, went on for an hour at least. Wife (she knew if I went out I would kill them) rang the Gardi partly because we have 4 kids all under 5 years old who were waking from their beds, and said the above "breach of the peace, etc". In their favour, they came out pretty sharpish although I admit that might/will not happen every time for others.

Ash.J.Williams

Gaunty wrote: »

Cheers but i don't think it's going to help me at this stage, i was mainly just venting! Am going to have to just try put the head down and sleep through it. But i'll keep the link in mind in case they are the same tomorrow.

If it's not a regular thing it's ok, Ireland needs to party more.

ShumanTheHuman

Don't worry - the Attorney General is on the case. But no doubt he will advise the government that requiring citizens in law to respect their fellow citizens peace and quite would be unconstitutional and the Greens will decide to outlaw angling instead

Biggins

ShumanTheHuman wrote: »

Don't worry - the Attorney General is on the case. But no doubt he will advise the government that requiring citizens in law to respect their fellow citizens peace and quite would be unconstitutional and the Greens will decide to outlaw angling instead

:pac:

Rick Deckard

say the little party animals are dealing drugs out of the gaff, police wont be long coming around then.. while they're raiding the gaff, you can catch up on your beauty sleep.

(turn off your caller id.)

Naked Lepper

BUY EARPLUGS

funk-you

Just stick an Air Max on a pike in their front garden and set fire to it. Junpella's love their Air Max.

-Funk