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Paul Galvin on Ireland AM

  • 29-06-2010 11:59am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭


    Any see this this morning, I missed it and am wondering how it went?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭An Citeog


    You can watch it here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    When starting a thread one has to have an opinion and start a debate. From the Forum charter http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=79500
    Pointless Threads and Polls
    - Posting any pointless thread or poll will result in the thread being locked. You can be banned for this. Think before you post. If you don't have anything to say then don't bother posting a new thread. Please try to comment as much as you can on any threads you create. If you create a thread in which you ask people to contribute in, contribute first.

    I'll leave this open for now. If the OP comes back after watching the clip An Citeog linked and starts some debate thats fine, otherwise the thread will be locked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Didn't see it, but read the transcript of what he said.

    I think he's said pretty much all that needs to be said, he's taking his punishment, accepts that it was justified and is prepared to move on.

    Hopefully everyone else will take this approach as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭chats


    I think the Kerry team must have hired a PR guy, this is an extremely sensible move on Galvin's part, he's clearly making an effort hear and this approach will pay dividends in the future im sure.

    Very proud of him....


    most of the time:rolleyes:


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭wixfjord


    Good interview, seems like a sound well rounded guy. However, we only see him on the pitch, and he can be an angel all he likes off it, but if he keeps doing what he does on the pitch, he can expect to be vilified. Hes nothing but himself to blame, but in fairness, he does realise this, and it seems to be other Kerry eejits defending him come hell or high water.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭Limerick_Lass


    I dont think the "Kerry eejits" are defending what he has done, they are annoyed about the way he is being victimised and there is no balance in the refereeing. ect


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭thegen


    In Spain and working off phone so an brief synopsis of what he said would be great, cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭Limerick_Lass


    Speaking to Aidan Cooney, Galvin admitted that his actions in the clash with Rebel defender Eoin Cadogan were wrong and that he accepted the suspension handed down to him by Croke Park's disciplinary body.

    He stated: "It wasn't a hard decision to appeal really Aidan. Look at the end of the day what I did you couldn't condone. I was wrong to do what I did so I felt it best to take it on the chin.

    "Yeah it will be difficult, that's the hard part but you know if you do the crime you've got to do the time I suppose."

    While he agrees that highlighted TV coverage of the incident between himself and Cadogan may have had a telling influence in certain decisions, Galvin has taken full responsibility for his actions and also confirmed that he had never intended to hang up his boots over it.

    "There probably was a lack of balance in the way everything was portrayed but no that's not an issue for me really. I can only be responsible for myself, I was wrong to do what I did," he said.

    Looking to move on, he is now hoping that his Kerry team-mates can claim victory in Sunday's Munster SFC final against Limerick without him:

    "I just hope the boys beat Limerick 'cause it's a big challenge for us, you know this Limerick side is a good side they were very unlucky not to beat Cork last year in the Munster final so they will be coming to Killarney with all guns blazing."

    Came across very well in my opinion :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭folan


    Galvin has been handed out heafty bans a couple of times now, but i cant remember him being repentant like this before.

    He is a quality footballer, but his temper is his downfall. taking responsibility is good. but this talk of balance is nothing. it has no bearing on him, its his temper and its his responsibility.

    if he can keep to it, fair enough. but until then, my opinion of him wont change


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    I personally think hes just reset the clock on the ticking timebomb that is him.
    Eventually hell explode again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭factnee


    folan wrote: »
    Galvin has been handed out heafty bans a couple of times now, but i cant remember him being repentant like this before.

    How quickly people forget. He was rolled out the Monday after the incident with Paddy Russell and sounded equally repentant. This was all forgotten when he appeared on tv with Hector last Christmas going on about how he was punished too harshly the incident and trying to justify his actions that day. Mark my words when this has died down he'll appear on some other media outlet and his regrets over the Eoin Cadogan incident will be as fake and insincere as they always were. He's a disgrace to the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭Limerick_Lass


    I think he brings a flair to the game, and if there were more players like him it would make the game so much more exciting. He has a bad temper... people get over it, he's taking his punishment, unlike others who get away with similar incidents!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    castie wrote: »
    I personally think hes just reset the clock on the ticking timebomb that is him.
    Eventually hell explode again.

    Yeah when Kerry give Cork another mother of all thrashings in Croke Park again this autumn :p :pac:


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    folan wrote: »
    Galvin has been handed out heafty bans a couple of times now, but i cant remember him being repentant like this before.

    He is a quality footballer, but his temper is his downfall. taking responsibility is good. but this talk of balance is nothing. it has no bearing on him, its his temper and its his responsibility.

    if he can keep to it, fair enough. but until then, my opinion of him wont change

    He was repentant on some RTE interview - I don't know is it his temper or just him being cynical but I'm the same, until he backs up those words with his actions on the field, I won't be changing my opinion on him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭GorHugh


    He was repentant on some RTE interview - I don't know is it his temper or just him being cynical but I'm the same, until he backs up those words with his actions on the field, I won't be changing my opinion on him.

    Rumour has it fish hooked cooney then loafed alan hughes and then took 2 cameramen out as soon as the cameas were turned on ......lol


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Yeah when Kerry give Cork another mother of all thrashings in Croke Park again this autumn :p :pac:

    *yawn* theres always one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭chats


    How many people here would prefer to see him playing a match ye were going to watch as apposed to sitting on the sideline, regardless of what county your from?

    He's an exceptional athlete, Roy Keane did some unruly things on a soccer pitch, hes loved by millions, Paul's career shouldn't be completely judged on these incidents (as unfortunately frequent as they may be):rolleyes:

    I know he may seem insincere, but i really do feel he regrets this one, Im sure there is nothing more he wants than to be playing every game he can in the green and gold.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    chats wrote: »
    How many people here would prefer to see him playing a match ye were going to watch as apposed to sitting on the sideline, regardless of what county your from?

    He's an exceptional athlete, Roy Keane did some unruly things on a soccer pitch, hes loved by millions, Paul's career shouldn't be completely judged on these incidents (as unfortunately frequent as they may be):rolleyes:

    I know he may seem insincere, but i really do feel he regrets this one, Im sure there is nothing more he wants than to be playing every game he can in the green and gold.


    Roy Keanes were tackles, cant exactly remember him fish hooking a player twice.

    Also I have no doubt he loves playing the game. I just feel that it is just a matter of time before something happens again.
    Tempers always run high in tight games and if you cant control yours (which is has proven he cant and no remorse in the world will change this) you are going to get in trouble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    castie wrote: »
    Roy Keanes were tackles, cant exactly remember him fish hooking a player twice.

    Have you ever heard of Alfe Inge Haaland?


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    keane2097 wrote: »
    Have you ever heard of Alfe Inge Haaland?

    Yes and it was a tackle that did the damage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    castie wrote: »
    Yes and it was a tackle that did the damage.

    A tackle that was deliberately, pre-meditated to cause an injury. As admitted by the player himself.

    If you think that's any better there's something wrong with your brain imo.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    keane2097 wrote: »
    A tackle that was deliberately, pre-meditated to cause an injury. As admitted by the player himself.

    If you think that's any better there's something wrong with your brain imo.

    You forget what happened the previous year - O Leary sent Haaland out to wind Keane up and he did, Keane lunged in in a tackle to trip him and heard his cruciate snap when his foot caught in the turf, Haaland stood over Keane stood over him shouting at him to get up and stop faking it. Keane missed the whole of the 97/98 season. If anything, wouldn't it be Cadogen wanting to do something to Galvin after what he did earlier in the year? Y

    Yes, Keane did some unruly things on the pitch, but after that incident he learned his lesson somewhat - Galvin has not seemed to have learned any lesson after what happened with Paddy Russell, let alone the fish hook incident. He knows he is somewhat a marked man, so why do it? I can't understand it.

    He knew full well that any stupid thing that he would be sent off for would give him a double suspension, so why do it? Skill wise, he is one of the best footballers of his generation, Kerry people must grow frustrated with his stupid unnecessary actions on the field


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭KrazeeEyezKilla


    chats wrote: »
    How many people here would prefer to see him playing a match ye were going to watch as apposed to sitting on the sideline, regardless of what county your from?

    I'd say the supporters of Kerry's opponents wouldn't mind not seeing him. And it doesn't matter how good a player is when it comes to how they should be punished.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,433 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    I dont think the "Kerry eejits" are defending what he has done, they are annoyed about the way he is being victimised and there is no balance in the refereeing. ect

    he's not victimised. He's a repeat offender so obviously he will be singled out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    You forget what happened the previous year during the league game - O Leary Counihan sent Haaland Cadogan out to wind Keane Galvin up and he did

    The result this time was Cadogan jumped on Galvin's back and wrestled him to the ground, resulting in the two players being sent off.

    TBH, I can't believe the muck ye're coming out with.

    Roy Keane sets out to deliberately perform a potentially career ending assault on Haaland, because Haaland goaded him the year before. That's grand because he's from Cork.

    Cadogan does the exact same goading to Galvin, as Noel O'Leary did last year, but Galvin reacting to that is different, because he's not from Cork.

    ****ing ridiculous IMO, I actually can't believe the nonsense you're after posting about Roy Keane there.

    /unsubscribes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    Lets not turn this into a Cork versus Kerry nonsense.

    Cheers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    I think he brings a flair to the game, and if there were more players like him it would make the game so much more exciting. He has a bad temper... people get over it, he's taking his punishment, unlike others who get away with similar incidents!

    i could not agree more with this. if every county had a paul galvin type character attendances would never be an issue!


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    keane2097 wrote: »
    The result this time was Cadogan jumped on Galvin's back and wrestled him to the ground, resulting in the two players being sent off.

    TBH, I can't believe the muck ye're coming out with.

    Roy Keane sets out to deliberately perform a potentially career ending assault on Haaland, because Haaland goaded him the year before. That's grand because he's from Cork.

    Cadogan does the exact same goading to Galvin, as Noel O'Leary did last year, but Galvin reacting to that is different, because he's not from Cork.

    ****ing ridiculous IMO, I actually can't believe the nonsense you're after posting about Roy Keane there.

    /unsubscribes

    You seem to suggest Galvin was innocent in all that?

    He did stick his fingers in Cadogens mouth that day as well!

    And as far as im concerned theres a big difference between goading someone into losing their temper and goading someone while their lying on the floor in agony with a potentially career ending injury. dont you think?

    And also no one claimed it was okay to do so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 ldwdub


    Its hilarious to see the horsesh*t that people shovel based solely on what they've read in the media and heard on The Sunday Game. I've been watching the GAA for many years, both in my own county and inter-county matches both in Dublin and in other provinces.

    The cynical treatment that Galvin receives is nothing new....it happened to likes of Canavan, Colm Cooper, Jason Sherlock etc.....dragging, punching in the back/ribs/back of head......all off the ball and an attempt to rile and put the players off their game. Galvin is a super player, but is easily riled. However, the incident referred to above in the National League game against Cork was a sham.....Cadogan wrestled Galvin to the ground and then insinuated that he had received a punch to the head whilst on the ground (it can be clearly seen in replays that Galvin neither threw a punch nor did anything wrong). However, the media like to portray him as an "on the edge" precocious type of footballer.....which I dont think he is.

    The GAA needs to do more to eliminate this type of cynical play, rather than turn a blind eye which they seem to currently favour.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    i think galvin did himself justice and no more about it. he held his head up high and did his bit. At least he mentioned that other incidents should have been highlighted in the replay. I heard that cork had put an injunction towards TV3 not to show a particular clip while galvin was interviewed. the clip of a cork player ramming his hands around gooch's neck not only that the tripping like! gooch was innocent! tis not fair that they didn't show those clips when its not just one sided its two sided!


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    ldwdub wrote: »
    Its hilarious to see the horsesh*t that people shovel based solely on what they've read in the media and heard on The Sunday Game. I've been watching the GAA for many years, both in my own county and inter-county matches both in Dublin and in other provinces.

    The cynical treatment that Galvin receives is nothing new....it happened to likes of Canavan, Colm Cooper, Jason Sherlock etc.....dragging, punching in the back/ribs/back of head......all off the ball and an attempt to rile and put the players off their game. Galvin is a super player, but is easily riled. However, the incident referred to above in the National League game against Cork was a sham.....Cadogan wrestled Galvin to the ground and then insinuated that he had received a punch to the head whilst on the ground (it can be clearly seen in replays that Galvin neither threw a punch nor did anything wrong). However, the media like to portray him as an "on the edge" precocious type of footballer.....which I dont think he is.

    The GAA needs to do more to eliminate this type of cynical play, rather than turn a blind eye which they seem to currently favour.

    He can be seen in the reply sticking his fingers into cadogens mouth twice.
    If thats doing nothing wrong then my god the rules have changed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    Could some people relax please. This thread is very close to being locked. Mod.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    castie wrote: »
    He can be seen in the reply sticking his fingers into cadogens mouth twice.
    If thats doing nothing wrong then my god the rules have changed.

    I couldn't see that at all tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭thesultan




  • Site Banned Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭wixfjord


    keane2097 wrote: »
    I couldn't see that at all tbh.

    00:13-15


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Still not seeing it.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    At 14 seconds you can see cadogens head jerk and thats galvin fish hooking him.

    If you still cant see it after that you never will.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 babyblu


    Well he's left his teaching job in Kerry and is starting in TnaG soon...is that where the media friendly PG is coming from I wonder?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    castie wrote: »
    At 14 seconds you can see cadogens head jerk and thats galvin fish hooking him.

    Is that what it is? How can you tell that?


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    Because I can see galvins fingers in cadogens mouth.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭Limerick_Lass


    Did you see the lead up to this and how it happened? I can post that video


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 804 ✭✭✭yerayeah


    That video is very inconclusive, and anyone who claims they can see from that quality of footage where his fingers are, is most likely being influenced by bias imo...


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    Did you see the lead up to this and how it happened? I can post that video

    Are you actually trying to justify this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭Limerick_Lass


    castie wrote: »
    Are you actually trying to justify this?

    No, am I coming across that I am? Just ye are debating what went on in a piece of bad footage, and all Im saying is theres a bit before it which is fundamental to the debate. Thats all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    yerayeah wrote: »
    That video is very inconclusive, and anyone who claims they can see from that quality of footage where his fingers are, is most likely being influenced by bias imo...

    QFT.
    castie wrote: »
    Because I can see galvins fingers in cadogens mouth.

    No you can't.

    You're either fooling yourself or just telling lies, because you can't see anything of the sort in that footage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭Swarlez


    castie wrote: »
    Yes and it was a tackle that did the damage.

    So keane can just come out and say "well it wasnt me, it was the tackle!". galvins altercation and keanes "tackle" dont even register on the same level. galvins was heat of the moment but keane went out of his way to deliberately injure someone. It was premeditated assault


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    So keane can just come out and say "well it wasnt me, it was the tackle!". galvins altercation and keanes "tackle" dont even register on the same level. galvins was heat of the moment but keane went out of his way to deliberately injure someone. It was premeditated assault

    Your throwing around the word assault alot...
    Remeber alot of things that go on in sport outside are in fact assault of it .
    So its meaningless.

    Keane put in a bad tackle and yes it was on purpose.
    You may not have the same level of disgust as i have for what Galvin did and I dont care if you try to say its was "heat of the moment". If you do something like that its something you had in your head anyway in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭Swarlez


    castie wrote: »
    Your throwing around the word assault alot...
    Remeber alot of things that go on in sport outside are in fact assault of it .
    So its meaningless.

    Keane put in a bad tackle and yes it was on purpose.
    You may not have the same level of disgust as i have for what Galvin did and I dont care if you try to say its was "heat of the moment". If you do something like that its something you had in your head anyway in my opinion.

    "I'd waited long enough. I ****ing hit him hard. The ball was there (I think). Take that you ****. And don't ever stand over me sneering about fake injuries" - Roy Keane
    "It wasn’t a hard decision not to appeal. At the end of the day what I did you couldn’t condone. I was wrong to do what I did so I felt it best to take it (the suspension) on the chin. It will be difficult (to miss Sunday’s Munster SFC final). But you know if you do the crime you’ve got to do the time." - Paul Galvin

    Just because i said galvin was in the heat of the moment doesn't mean i codone it. He was completely in the wrong and he owned up to that in the above quote. Heat of the moment was just one of the reasons it happened along with galvin constantly being wound up by other players, but still this is not an excuse for galvin, just why it happened.

    Keane on the other did in fact commit assault. as i said it was premeditated and his comment above taken from his autobiography shows no remorse for a potentially career ending tackle. I need not say anything more about that man. The two incidents don't even compare.

    In the end galvin is an amatuer sportsman who is hotheaded and is no angel but at least he conducted himself with some dignity after the incident. Roy Keane is just a overpaid professional disgrace of a human being.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭AnonMous


    I'm a new comer here but feel that Galvin was hard done by.

    This video clearly shows that Cadogan tried to bite Galvin's nose:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqYgQp9IXfs

    Galvin does have a bad temper but he does get wound up the whole time which is all part and parcel of the game, sure, but he is the one that the referees usually turn to punish.

    It is a hard game to referee so I think they need to introduce video technology to help the unfit referees to make decisions because they are usually making decisions based on incidents they see from 30 yards away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭oicherider


    Ya.. I saw that on Youtube too.. It puts a completely different spin on things.. Youd wonder that the f*ic the lads in the CCCC do with their time?.. Did they watch it at all?.. Useless feicers!!


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