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Top 8 Reasons Atheists Are No Fun (because stirring bee-hives can be fun!)

  • 28-06-2010 8:38pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭Wacker


    Hi all. Check this out, if you feel like upping your blood-pressure and maybe attracting a few friends from across the way.
    1. They are very demeaning to Christians
    One thing you'll quickly notice about adament atheists is how demeaning they are to Christians. They will call them idiots, morons, and mock their beliefs with vitriol. You simply don't see this type of thing from the other way around though. Christians feel compelled to offer reasons for their beliefs and defend against atheism. They may say atheism is misguided, or even wrong, but they will not stoop to the level of calling them morons, dults, idiots, etc. for no reason. You may disagree, but I suggest you do a search. I'm sure in the whole world, there are Christians who are belittling and demeaning to atheists, but it's not the norm. Go to Youtube. Check out how many videos basically say that Christians are idiots. Then compare that to the rational response videos made by Christians. Even Richard Dawkins, sort of the global figurehead for atheism, calls his group the "brights", a clear antithesis to the "dulls" which he is implying Christians are.

    2. They always seem angry
    Atheists always seem kind of pissed off. They have loads of hatred and scorn. Check out for example Penn Jillette. He is part of the comedy routine Penn and Teller. He spews hatred, completely unbridled. Atheists always seem to have a chip on their shoulder.

    3. Their "raison d'etre" seems to be to prove they are just as good as Christians morally
    I've seen some pretty weak attempts by atheists to show they are just as morally good as Christians. They constantly have a need to prove themselves. But this attempt at overcompensation derives from their feelings of inferiority. Any atheist can stroll through any major city and notice that the vast majority of hospitals, schools, and other institutions of societal good come from people who believe in God. Faced with this stark realization, atheists go out of their way to prove they are "just as good".

    4. They seem selfish
    Because atheists see themselves as the greatest thing in the universe, they become rather selfish. Morals are self-derived. If something feels good to them or benefits them, then it's good, otherwise it's bad. If there is no God, humans are the highest form of existence, and atheists would place their own personal existence above others. Atheists do not want to sacrifice for the greater good, but rather want to revel in sensual pleasures.


    5. They try to remove faith but it seems like a pointless activity
    Why would atheists spend so much time and energy trying to eradicate faith. Mao, Stalin, and others did the same when they suppressed religion in the name of atheism, and we can see the terrible results there. If they believe people are following a "fairy tale" like the toothfairy or Santa Claus, then what harm is that? If these fairy tales makes the person more generous, kind, loving, and selfless, why bother removing this faith? Why don't atheists spend as much time promoting lack of belief in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny to children as they do to eradicating faith?


    6. Atheism makes the world a cold, heartless place
    Atheism presents a very darwinian view of the world. Survival of the fittest. Atheists tend to attribute all their good fortunes to their own effort and see those they deem inferior to them as not as valuable. It becomes everyone for himself, and all this makes the world a cold and heartless place.


    7. When everything is about science, people are reduced in value
    Without our belief in a creator, atheists tend to view everything from the point of view of chemistry, biology, evolution, etc. People are no more special than a trout. They are just two different species. God didn't create us in a special way. We are all just accidents in a cold universe. Therefore those who are deemed "unsuitable" are no longer owed any special treat. The elderly, handicapped, and otherwise challenged individuals are easily seen as cosmic mistakes. This reduces the value of all humanity.

    8. They lack in charity and use profanity
    Atheists have no aversion to using profanity and vulgarity to make their point. Holding nothing sacred, they see blasphemy as a joke. Lacking charity, they feel they can express their opinion in any way they see fit, no matter how offensive. They see their behavior as "tough love" and denounce those who raise issues with their behavior as "softies".

    Those are just some of the reasons atheists are no fun.

    http://holymotherchurch.blogspot.com/2010/06/top-8-reasons-atheists-are-no-fun.html

    *Sits back and watches the madness unfold*


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭Pygmalion


    Someone who considers using profanity and lacking in charity to be the same thing.

    Nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Wreck


    I only read the first sentence, but surely being demeaning to Christians is the epitome of fun?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭Wacker


    Pygmalion wrote: »
    Someone who considers using profanity and lacking in charity to be the same thing.

    Nice.
    Indeed. What is most odd about point 8 is that the point of the article is that atheists are no fun, but then it chides atheists for being blasphemous. What he misses is that being blasphemous can be fun!

    http://img.visualizeus.com/thumbs/08/02/05/blasphemy,funny,jesus,painting,wmca,ymca-446afeaf52db5cb2160ac33633d95999_h.jpg

    See?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    How can someone write an article about athiests being no fun, but use Penn Jilette as an example?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    I love the "you don't see this the other way round" followed by 7 paragraphs of doing exactly that. :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    That guy's troll-fu is pretty weak.

    That said, I did find it funny that he began by complaining about atheists calling Christians idiots and the like, and then proceeded to pen a pretty stupid, tired, contradictory set of arguments attacking them. I wonder why he has that impression of atheists?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,023 ✭✭✭Tim Robbins


    Wacker wrote: »
    Hi all. Check this out, if you feel like upping your blood-pressure and maybe attracting a few friends from across the way.



    http://holymotherchurch.blogspot.com/2010/06/top-8-reasons-atheists-are-no-fun.html

    *Sits back and watches the madness unfold*
    Don't forget Stalin was an atheist!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 858 ✭✭✭goingpostal


    What a load of garbage. Jebus should come down off his cross and spank that follower of his for being naughty to little puppies. Or something. Points 4 and 7 totally contradict each other. Even if this douche-bag was right in everything he said about atheists being no fun, it doesn't stop us being right. And as an aside, I have participated in a lot of different Christian events and activities in my time and fun would not be an adjective I would use to describe those experiences. Coombaya My Lord, coombaya. My árse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Don't forget Stalin was an atheist!

    Oh he didn't, that was right there in point number 5 man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 334 ✭✭Nemi


    People are no more special than a trout.
    E's havin' a go at the trout, now.

    Trout are very special. I find they are much better at breathing underwater than people, and they taste better than them too. Particularly nice with lemon and parsley, which doesn't suit human flesh at all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Wacker wrote: »
    Hi all. Check this out, if you feel like upping your blood-pressure and maybe attracting a few friends from across the way.
    1. They are very demeaning to Non Christians.
    One thing you'll quickly notice about adament Christians is how demeaning they are to non christians (atheists in particular). They will call them idiots, morons, and mock their beliefs with vitriol. You simply don't see this type of thing from the other way around though. Atheists feel compelled to offer reasons for their beliefs and defend against . They may say atheism is misguided, or even wrong, but they will not stoop to the level of calling them morons, dults, idiots, etc. for no reason. You may disagree, but I suggest you do a search. I'm sure in the whole world, there are Atheists who are belittling and demeaning to Christians, but it's not the norm. Go to Youtube. Check out how many videos basically say that Atheists are idiots. Then compare that to the rational response videos made by Atheists. Even Bill Craig, sort of the global figurehead for Christian, calls his group the "dulls", a clear antithesis to the "brights" which he is implying Atheists are.

    2. They always seem angry
    Christians always seem kind of pissed off. They have loads of hatred and scorn. Check out for example Pat Robertson. He is part of the comedy routine on the CBN. He spews hatred, completely unbridled. Christians always seem to have a chip on their shoulder.

    3. Their "raison d'etre" seems to be to prove they are just as good as Atheists morally
    I've seen some pretty weak attempts by Christians to show they are just as morally good as Atheists. They constantly have a need to prove themselves. But this attempt at overcompensation derives from their feelings of inferiority. Any Christian can stroll through any major city and notice that the vast majority of hospitals, schools, and other institutions of societal good come from people who believe in a God or those who don't. Faced with this stark realization, Christians go out of their way to prove they are "just as good".

    4. They seem selfish
    Because Christians see themselves as the greatest thing in the universe, they become rather selfish. Morals are self-derived. If something feels good to them or benefits them, then it's good, otherwise it's bad. If there is a God, then whatever the God wishes is the God's will and must be done. Christians do not want to sacrifice for the greater good, but rather want to revel in their sensual pleasures and fantasies.


    5. They try to enforce faith but it seems like a pointless activity
    Why would Christians spend so much time and energy trying to proselytize their faith. We can see the terrible results of the Crusades and the destruction of indigenous cultures by fundamentalist missionary groups. If they believe everyone else is influenced by an evil "fairy" like Sauron or Darth Vader. Even if these people do their best to be generous, kind, loving, and selfless. Why don't Christians spend as much time promoting equality of rights rather than trying to enforce their beliefs on people?


    6. Christianity makes the world one f%&ked up contradictory place.
    Christianity presents a very contradictory view of the world. Each utterance of speech by one prominent Christian is nearly always counteracted by another. Christians tend to attribute all their good fortune to God and seemingly ignore the hard work other humans put in into to making that good fortune happen. Conversely any bad fortune is attributed to those same helping humans not listening the the contradictory Christians. It becomes everyone for himself, and all this makes the world a cold and heartless place.


    7. When everything is about Christian doctrine, people are reduced in value
    Without their belief in a creator, Christians tend to view everything from the point of view of chemistry, biology, evolution as the product of the God. So much so, that if they can't explain it then the answer "God did it" will suffice. People are nothing more than flawed entities full of sin. This reduces the value of all humanity.

    8. They lack in charity and use profanity
    Christians have no aversion to using profanity and vulgarity to make their point. Holding nothing sacred, they see blasphemy of other religions as a joke. Lacking charity, they feel they can express their opinion in any way they see fit, no matter how offensive. They see their behavior as "tough love" and denounce those who raise questions over their behavior as "heathens" or "heretics".

    Those are just some of the reasons Christians are no fun.


    http://holymotherchurch.blogspot.com/2010/06/top-8-reasons-atheists-are-no-fun.html

    *Sits back and watches the madness unfold*

    Don't see much wrong with any of that.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    9. Atheists eat their young.

    They left out that one.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Nevaeh Massive Poltergeist


    2. They always seem angry
    Atheists always seem kind of pissed off. They have loads of hatred and scorn. Check out for example Penn Jillette. He is part of the comedy routine Penn and Teller. He spews hatred, completely unbridled. Atheists always seem to have a chip on their shoulder.
    jack chick did it better tbh
    atheist goat go!
    I can't find the original though :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭sink


    The overall impression I get is that the author thinks atheists are individualistic, selfish hedonists; caring only about their own immediate needs, and without consideration of the wider environment. From his perspective instead of putting god at the centre of the universe the atheist puts himself.

    I think this is a very superficial view, no doubt concocted in his own mind as an explanation for the atheists lack of a God focused, Christian centred world-view which sustains him. Of course he has never delved deeper into the philosophical beliefs of a real life atheist, or even asked one honestly, straight out what they believe, preferring instead to accept his own convenient straw man which reinforces his own beliefs.

    Speaking personally he couldn't be more wrong. I recognise how insignificant I am in the grand scheme of things, even within my own society, even to my own life. My entire quality of life and indeed everbodies quality of life relies more upon the provisions of the society of which we are apart then anything we can possibly provide form ourselves.

    I rely upon the efforts of millions of others around the world to design, manufacture, transport and service virtually everything I consume, without their efforts I would be living in a cave eeking out a subsistence life. I wouldn't have the luxury of time to have a philosophical debate let alone have access to a global communications network as a medium or even afforded an education enabling me to think about such things.

    War, poverty, famine and disease anywhere across the globe damages society and impacts the well being of all individual members of the global society. I am a very tiny redundant part of a huge global society and my entire well being relies upon the peaceful order and proper functioning of that society. So it is my duty to myself and those that I care about to ensure that society is working at it's best.

    I recognise my stake in society and my cause to be a good person to a far greater degree than the author. He would do good to please an abstract deity he has never witnessed, in order to gain passage to a mythical place called heaven. I would do good in order to please my fellow man as I recognise without him I am nothing. It is mankind not god which sustains me and mankind itself is a tiny part of a much larger biological and cosmological ecosystem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    Dades wrote: »
    9. Atheists eat their young.

    They left out that one.

    Until they do a proper cook book for that one it'll never get the exposure it deserves, maybe Jamie Oliver could go around some schools, or Gordon Ramsey could release 'The joys of F*cking godless cannibalism'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    Dades wrote: »
    9. Atheists eat their young.

    They left out that one.
    I thought it was religious babies we were supposed to be eating. I've been doing it wrong all this time?! :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    That made me cry :( how could someone of such moral standing be so cruel as to point out my anger management issues? And my inferiority complex which deceives me into believing I'm the greatest thing in the universe of which I am but a part of equal value to all the rest..

    At least he recognised its no personal flaw of mine, rather the fault of that cursed cult atheism.. almost makes a believer of me..


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    2. They always seem angry
    Atheists always seem kind of pissed off. They have loads of hatred and scorn. Check out for example Penn Jillette. He is part of the comedy routine Penn and Teller. He spews hatred, completely unbridled. Atheists always seem to have a chip on their shoulder.
    Penn & Teller are a magic act.

    God, I hate this ****er and his list...:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭stevejazzx


    Wacker wrote: »
    Hi all. Check this out, if you feel like upping your blood-pressure and maybe attracting a few friends from across the way.



    http://holymotherchurch.blogspot.com/2010/06/top-8-reasons-atheists-are-no-fun.html

    *Sits back and watches the madness unfold*


    its great that atheism is based on something more than the other side being 'no fun'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    Wacker wrote: »
    Hi all. Check this out, if you feel like upping your blood-pressure and maybe attracting a few friends from across the way.



    http://holymotherchurch.blogspot.com/2010/06/top-8-reasons-atheists-are-no-fun.html

    *Sits back and watches the madness unfold*

    Some of the points are valid (atheism does make the universe an uncaring place, though I think I'll take that over a god who can for what ever reason suddenly decide to butch me and my family) but the rest of just the usual silly drivel. Didn't raise my blood pressure though, I've seen much worse


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    i can counter that article with three words

    pre. marital. sex.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    i can counter that article with three words

    pre. marital. sex.

    Nothin' wrong with havin' a try before you buy ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭Mark Hamill


    Dades wrote: »
    9. Atheists eat their young.

    They left out that one.

    Because thats fun, duh!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    Athiests, because of their destiny of going to hell (woohoo! eternity without christians) are going to have regular access to gigs by Jimi hendrix, Dio and the like, im pretty sure bachus has a decent pub open. Its safe to assume since socialists are also going to be there that working conditions by the lake of fire have somewhat improved too.

    we are suffering in boredom so that we may be rewarded in the next life :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭Malari


    i can counter that article with three words

    pre. marital. sex.

    What about just UN-marital sex!? :pac: Is that worse in the eyes of these kind of people? (I hope so)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Athiests, because of their destiny of going to hell (woohoo! eternity without christians))


    :eek:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Athiests, because of their destiny of going to hell (woohoo! eternity without christians)
    My ass!

    Since when did being a "Christian" mean being a paragon of virtue. One of the great fallacies, ever. If Hell is anything like the prison system there'll be more Christians in there than atheists. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    I dont like the thread title. The majority of those things are fun.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    Malari wrote: »
    What about just UN-marital sex!? :pac: Is that worse in the eyes of these kind of people? (I hope so)

    well its never nice when you get it in the eyes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Malty_T wrote: »

    :eek:

    Damn you I was meant to write a feckin document (not a document on how to feck, mind) today and instead am up to part 11 in that show!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭monosharp


    Dades wrote: »
    If Hell is anything like the prison system there'll be more Christians in there than atheists. :pac:

    They're not TRUE Christians :rolleyes: Don't you know anything!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Giselle


    Atheists do not want to sacrifice for the greater good, but rather want to revel in sensual pleasures.

    Quite a few catholic clergy made valliant attempts at appearing to do one while indulging in the other. Ah the good old days.

    I like that list. Christians make me giggle.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭Comrade C


    He says how atheists think they are the high point of evolution on point 8! Isnt that exactly what christianity teaches, that humans are the most important beings on the planet as they were created in the image of god! So its ok to kill a fish but to kill a human is monumentally different? Ul find that most atheist believe that we were are equal to all animals and the thus less selfish? Christianity seems to love pampering individuals saying were all special! If i wanted to hear that id watch Barney :L


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,427 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Wacker wrote: »
    *Sits back and watches the madness unfold*
    Interesting views on things to look out for in gay men. Or not, as the case may be.

    http://holymotherchurch.blogspot.com/2010/06/9-things-that-do-not-make-man-gay.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    Comrade C wrote: »
    He says how atheists think they are the high point of evolution on point 8! Isnt that exactly what christianity teaches, that humans are the most important beings on the planet as they were created in the image of god! So its ok to kill a fish but to kill a human is monumentally different? Ul find that most atheist believe that we were are equal to all animals and the thus less selfish? Christianity seems to love pampering individuals saying were all special! If i wanted to hear that id watch Barney :L

    i think creationists think evolution is some sort of strive to perfection and athiests think that theyre the best. theyre not too smart bless them


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    i think creationists think evolution is some sort of strive to perfection and athiests think that theyre the best. theyre not too smart bless them

    Aha! Bigot! :eek:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    robindch wrote: »
    Interesting views on things to look out for in gay men. Or not, as the case may be.

    http://holymotherchurch.blogspot.com/2010/06/9-things-that-do-not-make-man-gay.html
    The guy who wrote that definitely protests too much. :)

    Though this was funny irritating:
    Society has become obsessed with the idea of finding "closet homosexuals"
    Perhaps if your, and other people's stupid religions weren't so obsessed with condemning them this wouldn't be the case.


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