Swinging in to out

alxmorgan

Hey all,

As a slicer off the tee I have been working on swinging in to out recently.
My thought is of a 7 to 1 swing in terms of clock face.
Has anyone else tried this and if so with any degree of success ?

thanks

danthefan

Are you slicing the ball badly? If you're fading it and still ending up in the fairway, I wouldn't worry about it.

Anyway I really need to concentrate when hitting a driver, if I swing the club naturally I will swing out to in (which is causing havoc with my irons at the moment), I have to sort of make myself swing the club on a more inside plane, which is far more effective for me.

alxmorgan

Unfortunately its more slice than fade - with the driver anyway
With the rest of my clubs I'm ok.

So what are doing/thinking to get on a more inside plane ?

danthefan

alxmorgan wrote: »

Unfortunately its more slice than fade - with the driver anyway
With the rest of my clubs I'm ok.

So what are doing/thinking to get on a more inside plane ?

What am I doing? To be honest I don't really have any method, I just make myself do it. Really concentrate on your swing and what you're doing with the club on your backswing. Take a few practice swings obviously before every shot. Also I find a good follow through, really pushing the club out as far as I can helps me too. Probably not much use to you, sorry...

alxmorgan

To be honest I'd find it hard to explain what I try to do as well other than to say I try to feel like it comes back on the inside and goes out wide on the way through as you say

Had been having good success up until this w/e
Hopefully that was just a blip. Back to the range to make sure

heavyballs

regardless of your swing plane your main problem is your club face is (i presume)open at impact,due to ball position,get your camcorder of go to a pro,i recently have tried to make sure the club is square at impact and this seems to work

Su Campu

Could be that you're not making a proper shoulder turn in the backswing, lifting the club rather than pivoting around your spine, leading to an out to in swing path on the downswing, and an open face. Are you losing distance? Do you take the odd slight divot on some of your drives? If so, that could be your problem.

Make sure you're bent forward from the hips at address, back neutral. On the backwswing concentrate on a long low takeaway, passing your left shoulder under your chin. This will ensure you're making that shoulder turn. And of course, make sure you finish your backswing, as rushing into your downswing too early can leave the club open at impact.

alxmorgan

heavyballs wrote: »

regardless of your swing plane your main problem is your club face is (i presume)open at impact,due to ball position,get your camcorder of go to a pro,i recently have tried to make sure the club is square at impact and this seems to work

That makes sense. How do you go about making sure the club face is square at impact though ?

BoardsRanger

I have tried the in to out swing to cure a slice OP. It does indeed work, but i wouldnt recomment it. Two things i found that happened 1)you will loose distance as you wont break your wrists as much and 2) there is a tendancy every now and then to hit the ground before you hit the ball.

What i do now is to turn my hands over through impact- and so closing the clubface. Seems to work thus far.

alxmorgan

Su Campu wrote: »

Could be that you're not making a proper shoulder turn in the backswing, lifting the club rather than pivoting around your spine, leading to an out to in swing path on the downswing, and an open face. Are you losing distance? Do you take the odd slight divot on some of your drives? If so, that could be your problem.

Make sure you're bent forward from the hips at address, back neutral. On the backwswing concentrate on a long low takeaway, passing your left shoulder under your chin. This will ensure you're making that shoulder turn. And of course, make sure you finish your backswing, as rushing into your downswing too early can leave the club open at impact.

My shoulder turn could definitely be better. I was definitely lifting rather than turning and as a result coming over the top (took a video one day and was shocked when I saw my swing !!)

Losing distance ? well defo when I slice
divot ? not really

long low takeway is something else I've been working on alright and trying to stay slow in backswing

heavyballs

alxmorgan wrote: »

That makes sense. How do you go about making sure the club face is square at impact though ?

well i use a camcorder with a slow mo but you'll feel it in the strike,change your ball position and experiment,even when it feels wrong at first persist with it
also what the previous poster said may help,are you rotating correctly through the shot or is the club finishing high and right,

if you're slicing try to imagine on your follow through that you need to keep the club under something like a chair or coffee table,at first you may start hooking but after a while you'll get the feel

alxmorgan

BoardsRanger wrote: »

I have tried the in to out swing to cure a slice OP. It does indeed work, but i wouldnt recomment it. Two things i found that happened 1)you will loose distance as you wont break your wrists as much and 2) there is a tendancy every now and then to hit the ground before you hit the ball.

What i do now is to turn my hands over through impact- and so closing the clubface. Seems to work thus far.

Another thing I've tried. I was focusing on keeping my left elbow close to my body on the thru swing to achieve this. Is this what you do or something else ?

BoardsRanger

alxmorgan wrote: »

Another thing I've tried. I was focusing on keeping my left elbow close to my body on the thru swing to achieve this. Is this what you do or something else ?

No, i try more to focus on the rotation of my right wrist counter clockwise through impact. A recent tip from a pro and seems to be working.

henrycellers

BoardsRanger wrote: »

No, i try more to focus on the rotation of my right wrist counter clockwise through impact. A recent tip from a pro and seems to be working.

try the r7 draw driver u will never look back

Conor J

perhaps if you adopt a stronger grip, you will naturally have a more neutral clubface on impact, have a go at this.. but in reality to solve your problem, you would need someone to see what it is you are actually doing (or not doing) in your swing..

stockdam

Go get your slice fixed first otherwise you may tie yourself up in knots.........get some lessons.

When you can hit the ball straight then it's easy to hit a fade or a draw.........they are exactly the same swing as your straight shot apart from some setup changes.

To hit a draw.........aim the clubface at the target (but don't take your grip yet). Aim the body down the right. Now and only now do you take your grip. Swing where your body is aiming (which is the same swing for hitting the ball straight except you are aiming to the right). Your clubface is closed relative to your swing plane and therefore the ball should draw.

Do the opposites for a fade.

You don't need to nor should you try to do something with your hands. Hitting a draw or a fade is all about setup changes and you use the same swing for both therefore keeping things simple.

alxmorgan

henrycellers wrote: »

try the r7 draw driver u will never look back

I find it hard to believe that it would make that big a difference. I mean I could achieve the same thing by closing the club face before I swing surely ?

perhaps if you adopt a stronger grip, you will naturally have a more neutral clubface on impact, have a go at this

Another thing I've tried on occasion and had some success with

Go get your slice fixed first otherwise you may tie yourself up in knots.........get some lessons.

I know thats exactly what I should do and I will. I guess part of me is worried as its been a good summer of golf so far and if the pro breaks me down it could be a couple of months before I'm back enjoying it again. So I'm thinking maybe towards the end of the season to get some lessons.
Of course I could just try one and see what he says

thanks for all the replies guys