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Pr0n - a good thing or a bad thing?

  • 23-06-2010 5:18pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    I'm talking about the kind with consenting adults of course, doing it of their own free will. Obviously with the Internet, it can't be prevented.

    There was a lot of reaction both positive (GOWAN YE GUD THING) and negative (Sex? in Ireland?), when that Wexford hurler appeared in a porn film, so what do ye think? Is it good bad or do you care?

    Do you think pornography is a bad thing? 249 votes

    Yes
    0% 0 votes
    No
    20% 50 votes
    Different opinion - specify in post
    77% 192 votes
    Atari Shaguar
    2% 7 votes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,460 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Hell it sure beats getting the dole:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Brilliant. All those big knockers floppin' around


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Nothing wrong with it. And who cares if some hurler was in a porn film? Some people are just prudes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    It's not a bad thing for reasonable adults, but if I ever have kids they aren't touching it until older.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    if I ever have kids they aren't touching it until older.

    Hee hee heeeee...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,463 ✭✭✭Leftyflip


    *fap fap* Whut? *fap fap*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Hee hee heeeee...

    :o

    That made it sound like I want to glue chain-mail gloves onto their hands at night.:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    Bad thing---but I'm a giant hypocrite and I still watch it. I think it preys on damaged, desperate people and it reduces womens sexuality to just something to please men. It doesn't get to exist in its own right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,708 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    I'm watching porn right now. It's great!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭alwaysadub


    What the fcuk is prOn when it's at home?

    Nothing wrong with porn mind..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 977 ✭✭✭Abrasax


    If one subcribes to Dr.William Reich's theory that sexual repression leads to the 'Mass Psychology of Fascism' and to neuroses on a national level, then porn (according to the OP's definition), and the role it plays in sexual liberation, is a wonderful thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    I do think that there should be a disclaimer at the start of films to stop people using them as 'How to' guides.

    If you do this to a real woman she will bite it off.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Alaia Brave Telecommunications


    good thing of course


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Spelling it like that is a bad thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭plein de force


    if the people in the pornography give their consent then what's the problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    if the people in the pornography give their consent then what's the problem

    Yes but what is the nature of that consent. You would be hard pressed to find a porn actresse without a drug habit/ history of sexual abuse. Sure if they were well rounded individuals, but they're not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    Yes but what is the nature of that consent. You would be hard pressed to find a porn actresse without a drug habit/ history of sexual abuse. Sure if they were well rounded individuals, but they're not.

    And where the bollox are you pulling that info from? Back up the statement or GTFO!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭quicklickpaddy


    Yes but what is the nature of that consent. You would be hard pressed to find a porn actresse without a drug habit/ history of sexual abuse. Sure if they were well rounded individuals, but they're not.

    Sorry, what are you even basing that on? They're in porn, they're not prostitutes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    It degrades women.



    If it's any good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Yes but what is the nature of that consent. You would be hard pressed to find a porn actresse without a drug habit/ history of sexual abuse. Sure if they were well rounded individuals, but they're not.

    Eh, cite?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    I'm talking about the kind with consenting adults of course, doing it of their own free will. Obviously with the Internet, it can't be prevented.

    There was a lot of reaction both positive (GOWAN YE GUD THING) and negative (Sex? in Ireland?), when that Wexford hurler appeared in a porn film, so what do ye think? Is it good bad or do you care?

    I have posted to register that I do not care about this issue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    "....It's just porn, mom, your running away
    You wouldn't believe what the kids see today
    It's just porn, mom, and it won't go away
    Wherever you turn you find porn everyday..."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭SadieSue


    Porn is what it is. There's always going to be a market for it, there always has. Sure its degrading to women as it shows them nothing more than friction for the male genitalia but then again who earns more.. female actresses are known to earn more than male.

    Its neither good or bad. To say all female porn stars are the victims of abuse is a bit silly. Exhibitionism has been around for centuries.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Gay Black Midget Amputee Leprechaun Bukkake Porn FTW!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    SadieSue wrote: »
    Sure its degrading to women as it shows them nothing more than friction for the male genitalia but then again who earns more.. female actresses are known to earn more than male.

    Surely then its even more degrading to blokes ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Bad thing---but I'm a giant hypocrite and I still watch it. I think it preys on damaged, desperate people and it reduces womens sexuality to just something to please men. It doesn't get to exist in its own right.

    Women finger the gash of themselves all the time to porn. Afaik their fancy is gay porn or lesbian porn. They just don't admit to it like they don't admit that their farts smell.

    of course there is damaged people trying to get into the porn industry. Its the same as any showbiz industry. There has been many documentaries on the porn industry and from most of them, the most damaging part seems to be straight men doing gay shoots. A lot of the actors wouldn't talk about the shoots on camera.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    Reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jUoVE67FJ8&feature=related
    Watch the whole thing.

    I mean that it reduces women's sexuality as something only to please men as on the whole it is only aimed at men. There is like one porn site aimed at lesbians. The rest is just fake lesbians having fake sex cos 'girls kissing is hot'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭SadieSue


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Surely then its even more degrading to blokes ?

    Yep pretty much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jUoVE67FJ8&feature=related
    Watch the whole thing.

    I mean that it reduces women's sexuality as something only to please men as on the whole it is only aimed at men. There is like one porn site aimed at lesbians. The rest is just fake lesbians having fake sex cos 'girls kissing is hot'

    lol @ lost my church friends

    Jakass is that you in disguise?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭SadieSue


    This is also very interesting.
    Possibly NSFW


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia



    The poll doesn't make a lot of sense.

    Pr0n - a good thing or a bad thing?

    I guess I'll vote "Yes". It's one of those.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jUoVE67FJ8&feature=related
    Watch the whole thing.

    I mean that it reduces women's sexuality as something only to please men as on the whole it is only aimed at men. There is like one porn site aimed at lesbians. The rest is just fake lesbians having fake sex cos 'girls kissing is hot'

    Seen that before, she is still selling herself TBH, but this time to churches where she reiterates their points for them.

    Sure, there are some screwed up women in porn, but it is such a huge industry these days that I would argue that most of them don't have the pasts that were typical of older porn.

    There is alot less taboo in California now about girls doing porn, in fact alot of them come there specifically to do porn.

    Porn is aimed at men because that is the major market.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭knird evol


    PrOn

    I think they can be quite nice. Maybe like in an Avocado Salade or a curry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    I coulda phrased it better, but I'm a guy, so effort, meh. Anyway, if you think its not a bad thing, tick no. I didnt get enough caffeine today.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    Sorry, what are you even basing that on? They're in porn, they're not prostitutes.

    Well they get paid to have sex...so yeah they're prostitutes.
    SadieSue wrote: »
    Porn is what it is. There's always going to be a market for it, there always has. Sure its degrading to women as it shows them nothing more than friction for the male genitalia but then again who earns more.. female actresses are known to earn more than male.

    Its neither good or bad. To say all female porn stars are the victims of abuse is a bit silly. Exhibitionism has been around for centuries.

    I dunno, if it's just two folks banging each other surely it's no more degrading to either party? Unless that's a specific type of porn that some people are into.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    Seen that before, she is still selling herself TBH, but this time to churches where she reiterates their points for them.

    Sure, there are some screwed up women in porn, but it is such a huge industry these days that I would argue that most of them don't have the pasts that were typical of older porn.

    There is alot less taboo in California now about girls doing porn, in fact alot of them come there specifically to do porn.

    Porn is aimed at men because that is the major market.
    But you'd have to be fairly screwed up to do all these things on camera, doesn't take a genius to figure that one.
    I don't think porn is the worst thing in the world, but I don't really think it gives anything positive to the world.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    it is only aimed at men.

    A lot of couples watch porn.

    There may not be much hardcore stuff aimed specifically at women (although for what its worth** the video posted above claims that 28% of internet porn users are Women) but theres tons of softer stuff.

    ** Probably not very much given that it cites a spyware firm as a source


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    I dunno, it's escapism for most. Maybe it's a way to experience stuff they've no hope of getting their partners to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    But you'd have to be fairly screwed up to do all these things on camera, doesn't take a genius to figure that one.
    I don't think porn is the worst thing in the world, but I don't really think it gives anything positive to the world.

    No, you wouldn't. It's just sex, a very human thing. The advent of porn, IMO, was involved in the sexual revolution where women are allowed to express their enjoyment of sex publicly rather than only doing it for procreation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,297 ✭✭✭Jaxxy


    There's nothing wrong with it IMO. If people want to do porn then all power to them. Same goes for people who want to watch it. As long as it's not harming anyone then I don't see the problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭SadieSue


    Piste wrote: »
    I dunno, if it's just two folks banging each other surely it's no more degrading to either party? Unless that's a specific type of porn that some people are into.

    Yeah and they also get a say in who they bang and how its done. I don't think its as sexist nowadays as it was years ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 458 ✭✭Boxoffrogs


    In an ideal world where everyone involved in the porn industry enjoys their work, sure, porn is a great thing.

    I can think of worse industries to work in, i.e. banking or politics:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    Porn is kinda like Guitar Hero - its an inadequate substitute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭force majeure


    As someone who has seen stuff by and by [mostly on line] I can say a good lot off it is ok. A lot off it is put together by couples who appear happy enough at what they do. The but part being over the last 5 years or so I have noticed a certain amount is now turning too far off for my liking and it cant be denied that some off the women involved do look either drunk or drugged to the eye balls so in fact I think I well go back to DVDs.:p
    safer too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Poll needs more options

    1) It depends
    2) Yes (but censorship is worse)


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Alaia Brave Telecommunications


    But you'd have to be fairly screwed up to do all these things on camera anything I don't like

    Is that what you really meant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Is that what you really meant

    Listen I have no problem with any kind of sexual practice, I just think to do it on camera with a total stranger for the world to see makes you a bit of a freak. I'm specifically talking about the really weird fetish stuff. I'm not saying they're bad people, just off their heads to do it with a stranger in front of a crowded room of crew


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 977 ✭✭✭Abrasax


    Listen I have no problem with any kind of sexual practice, I just think to do it on camera with a total stranger for the world to see makes you a bit of a freak. I'm specifically talking about the really weird fetish stuff. I'm not saying they're bad people, just off their heads to do it with a stranger in front of a crowded room of crew

    Why?
    What exactly is wrong with it?
    Aren't you just applying your own moral and sexual standards?


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Alaia Brave Telecommunications


    Listen I have no problem with any kind of sexual practice, I just think to do it on camera with a total stranger for the world to see makes you a bit of a freak. I'm specifically talking about the really weird fetish stuff. I'm not saying they're bad people, just off their heads to do it with a stranger in front of a crowded room of crew

    Different strokes for different folks?
    Just because you don't do it or wouldn't doesn't make them freaks, it makes them have different tastes and different/fewer hangups about sex.
    Maybe people think you're a freak because you might seem prudish, how about them apples?


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