No Party In Saudi

mysons

http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/saudis-jail-and-flog-party-goers-462719.html


I think the last line in the report is quite funny.
What happened ? Did the cops go in when the music stopped and their party finnished as well.

stovelid

Thought for a second they were flogged for being minging.

80 lashes wtf?
You'd be just about dead after that?

questionmark?

Can we send an aid flotilla full of sudocream?

Coriolanus

bluewolf wrote: »

80 lashes wtf?
You'd be just about dead after that?

I don't think they're using scourges any more. Not saying it wouldn't hurt like a bastard, but it wouldn't kill you I think.

Cookie_Monster

they're laws may be insane in most cases but at least the sentences would inspire you not to do it again. could do with a bit of that over here

Nevore

Nevore wrote: »

I don't think their using scourges any more. Not saying it wouldn't hurt like a bastard, but it wouldn't kill you I think.

Fixed you're post for your their.

whadabouchasir

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

they're laws may be insane in most cases but at least the sentences would inspire you not to do it again. could do with a bit of that over here

I really don't see how you could justify punishing someone for a party that sounds tame at worst.they really seem to be punishing people for mingling rather than being noisy or boisterous.

Mike 1972

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

they're laws may be insane in most cases but at least the sentences would inspire you not to do it again. could do with a bit of that over here

Their laws are insane so we should adopt them ?

FAIL !

Nevore

Nevore wrote: »

I don't think they're using scourges any more. Not saying it wouldn't hurt like a bastard, but it wouldn't kill you I think.

What do they use? Can't find it on google

Barbaric either way, she'll surely be scarred if she isn't killed
Though given the amount of "sentenced to 200-1000 lashes" mentions, I suppose they keep them alive somehow

Cookie_Monster

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Their laws are insane so we should adopt them ?

FAIL !

the sentencing not the laws :rolleyes:

Coriolanus

bluewolf wrote: »

What do they use? Can't find it on google

Barbaric either way, she'll surely be scarred if she isn't killed
Though given the amount of "sentenced to 200-1000 lashes" mentions, I suppose they keep them alive somehow

Probably just "normal" whips. There used to be a whipping video on rotten or somewhere like that. Pretty horrific stuff, I think it was fifty lashes.

Giselle

The fourth woman, a minor, was sentenced to 80 lashes but was not jailed.

If she was a minor she wasn't a woman, she was a girl.

So they gave a child 80 lashes.

What virtuous people the Saudi's are. I wonder if they see the irony of giving a child 80 lashes to uphold the moral fibre of society.

Biggins

Lets be real. Its Saudi Arabia - a country so full of its fair share hypocrisy and inequalities that they are living in the dark ages in regards to progressive thinking.
Till they kop themselves on and the American supported corrupt royal government there is overthrown, I will never return there.

L.Jenkins

mysons wrote: »

http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/saudis-jail-and-flog-party-goers-462719.html


I think the last line in the report is quite funny.
What happened ? Did the cops go in when the music stopped and their party finnished as well.

Talk about being fúcking backward and medieval. Dark ages Europe was far more progressive for fúck sake.

minister poxbottle

bluewolf wrote: »

What do they use? Can't find it on google

Barbaric either way, she'll surely be scarred if she isn't killed
Though given the amount of "sentenced to 200-1000 lashes" mentions, I suppose they keep them alive somehow

www.corpun.com

Giselle

Biggins wrote: »

Lets be real. Its Saudi Arabia - a country so full of its fair share hypocrisy and inequalities that they are living in the dark ages in regards to progressive thinking.
Till they kop themselves on and the American supported corrupt royal government there is overthrown, I will never return there.

Some of us are real enough to never consider going there in the first place.

ricman

I WOULD not go to a country like that ,it treats women as second class citizens.Women are not allowed to mix with males unless they are related.ITS schools teach an extreme form of islam.Women are not allowed
to drive a car by themselves.

AgileMyth

ricman wrote: »

I WOULD not go to a country like that ,it treats women as second class citizens.Women are not allowed to mix with males unless they are related.ITS schools teach an extreme form of islam.Women are not allowed
to drive a car by themselves.

Glad to see they're getting some things right.:D

Nulty

Deleted User wrote: »

Fixed you're post for your their.

You incorrected it, did you not?

Or is that a joke that went sailing over my head?

Guy:Incognito

"The four women and 11 men were convicted of “mingling”. The country follows a strict interpretation of Islam that prohibits unrelated men and women from mixing"


How do they become related if they cant mix?:)

bleg

And it's Israel we should boycott...:rolleyes:

Giselle

Stekelly wrote: »

"The four women and 11 men were convicted of “mingling”. The country follows a strict interpretation of Islam that prohibits unrelated men and women from mixing"


How do they become related if they cant mix?

According to another thread, its all in the breastmilk. Seriously.

Women can mix with brothers, sons, uncles, father, nephews and husbands. But they can't go out without a related man with them. Or drive. Or leave the country. Or get medical attention. Or work. Or get an education. Or do anything basically.

God is love. Apparently.

Giselle

bleg wrote: »

And it's Israel we should boycott...:rolleyes:

They don't have oil, so we can do what we like with them.;)

Standard Toaster

Barbaric tbh. Like something you'd see in medieval times.
The lashes are applied over a few weeks/months depending on the amount. They won't get all their lashes at once, how nice of them.

Sharia law me arse.

Gotta love religion

Ruthie-Roux

Nulty wrote: »

You incorrected it, did you not?

Or is that a joke that went sailing over my head?

I was just going to say that----it was right the first time! They`re = they are which is correct. Secondly, the poster who corrected it used bad grammer themselves : "I corrected you`re post should be "your". There`s a hilarious irony in trying to correct someones grammer and being wrong yourself..twice.

_sparkie_

they do realise that dawn is very early in the summer, i was on a bus coming home (from a night out) at dawn the other day.

also, if you knew you were breaking the law then they should have just gone all out and had a crazy swingers party. one of those might be a worth a year in prison.

Biggins

Giselle wrote: »

Some of us are real enough to never consider going there in the first place.

True but to say honestly what a place is like, one has to live the experience and look behind the curtain so to speak.
I did while in the course of work and what I found was very not the image the Saudi royal family would like you to see.

up for anything

whadabouchasir wrote: »

I really don't see how you could justify punishing someone for a party that sounds tame at worst.they really seem to be punishing people for mingling rather than being noisy or boisterous.

The country follows a strict interpretation of Islam that prohibits unrelated men and women from mixing.

Well, d'uh.

inforfun

Wouldnt surprise me if the next thing we read about this is that the men will get away with it and only the women will receive their punishment.

Got to love religions, especially this one.

ricman

when a religion is enforced by the state that = corruption ,few civil rights
and crazy laws.Laws designed by fanatics.
when went thru this crap in ireland, remember when you had to be married to buy a pack of condoms, sex education did not exist in ireland cos 90 per cent of schools were run by the catholic church which thinks ignorance is a good thing.
even if you were a jew or muslim here, contraception was illegal.
church law was almost state law before the 80s.the sooner we have a proper secular state the better.

Giselle

Giselle wrote: »

If she was a minor she wasn't a woman, she was a girl.

So they gave a child 80 lashes.

What virtuous people the Saudi's are. I wonder if they see the irony of giving a child 80 lashes to uphold the moral fibre of society.

I was reading about the iran penal code (I know this is saudi but I imagine it's much the same). Apparently 9 year old girls but 15 year old boys are old enough for this kind of punishment. In every other aspect women need to be minded by men but in this apparently they're old enough to take responsibility much sooner :rolleyes:
Sure remember a few months ago some girl was rude to her principal in school so she ended up with a lot of lashes, to be delivered IN the school as added humiliation.

The lashes are applied over a few weeks/months depending on the amount. They won't get all their lashes at once, how nice of them.

I'd call that worse, it'd feel worse each time and take much, much longer to heal Barbaric idiots.

Nulty

Nulty wrote: »

You incorrected it, did you not?

Or is that a joke that went sailing over my head?

I think it was referring to Nevore's sig...

pickarooney

Ruthie-Roux wrote: »

I was just going to say that----it was right the first time! They`re = they are which is correct. Secondly, the poster who corrected it used bad grammer themselves : "I corrected you`re post should be "your". There`s a hilarious irony in trying to correct someones grammer and being wrong yourself..twice.

How funny is three times?

up for anything

ricman wrote: »

I WOULD not go to a country like that ,it treats women as second class citizens.Women are not allowed to mix with males unless they are related.ITS schools teach an extreme form of islam.Women are not allowed
to drive a car by themselves.

However, they do teach punctuation. :P

up for anything

I hate these shock and outrage threads.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

We haven't exactly got a clean record of human rights and fair punishment. :rolleyes:

up for anything

up for anything wrote: »

I hate these shock and outrage threads.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

We haven't exactly got a clean record of human rights and fair punishment. :rolleyes:

You're right, 80 lashes is totally cool.
Let's sit around being apathetic and not giving a damn about anyone.

up for anything

bluewolf wrote: »

You're right, 80 lashes is totally cool.
Let's sit around being apathetic and not giving a damn about anyone.

Not sure where you managed to extract that from my post!

Much better to sit around and express disgust on boards. Have you tried doing anything about it?

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

novarock

Says us from the country where people who rape children get suspended sentences...

Im saudi the laws are certainly extreme, a good deal more than in surrounding arabic countries, and especially towards basic human rights,

Although I wish we had the same punishment standards for serious offenders over here. A paedo over there when convicted, is locked up for the rest of his life with no release, and has a cane broken over his back once a month..

Also, "lashes" are conducted using a cane, that is designed not to break the skin

goose2005

bluewolf wrote: »

I'd call that worse, it'd feel worse each time and take much, much longer to heal Barbaric idiots.

No, 80 lashes at once would probably kill the girl.

Sulmac

More enlightenment from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

novarock wrote: »

Also, "lashes" are conducted using a cane, that is designed not to break the skin

Oh, that makes it okay.

BreakingNews.ie wrote:

The four women and 11 men were convicted of “mingling”. The country follows a strict interpretation of Islam that prohibits unrelated men and women from mixing.
...
Officials said police saw the group partying until dawn last month.

Somebody call 9-1-1! Shorty mingling on the dancefloor. :eek:

magotch07

bluewolf wrote: »

80 lashes wtf?
You'd be just about dead after that?

think you can get it done in blocks of 10

Oink

magotch07 wrote: »

think you can get it done in blocks of 10

Ooooh alright then. jeeze. OK then. Had me there for a second. The girl must have been so relieved to hear that.

EDIT - not directed at magotch obviously.

Dudess

bleg wrote: »

And it's Israel we should boycott...:rolleyes:

Don't know whether boycotting Israeli goods is a good idea as it could have a knock-on effect on the Palestinians, but if you're saying we should redirect our outrage over Israel's excessive use of force... well, why not be outraged at both? Israel's fuk-buddy the US is a big fan of Saudi btw...

up for anything wrote: »

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

We haven't exactly got a clean record of human rights and fair punishment. :rolleyes:

Always one on these threads...

Um... what, for example, have "we" done along these lines? Irish people aren't in "glass-houses" - that's a load of ****. Even if there were human rights abuses carried out by our government, does that make ordinary Irish people responsible? Look at a list of countries and human rights abuses around the world and... shock horror! You won't find Ireland anywhere NEAR Saudi Arabia. In fact you'll find it very low on the list, despite this laughable notion people here seem to have that Ireland has been a terrible dictatorship at times. Oh and people can criticise barbarism if they want - it tends to be something that deserves to be criticised.

up for anything wrote: »

Not sure where you managed to extract that from my post!

Much better to sit around and express disgust on boards. Have you tried doing anything about it?

That's not what you said at all - you said we should not criticise Saudi Arabia because it's hypocritical... or something.

novarock wrote: »

Says us from the country where people who rape children get suspended sentences...

Wtf difference does that make?

Im saudi the laws are certainly extreme, a good deal more than in surrounding arabic countries, and especially towards basic human rights

Yeah, and that's a bad thing... right?

Also, "lashes" are conducted using a cane, that is designed not to break the skin

So it's not all that bad?

Minstrel27

Ruthie-Roux wrote: »

I was just going to say that----it was right the first time! They`re = they are which is correct. Secondly, the poster who corrected it used bad grammer themselves : "I corrected you`re post should be "your". There`s a hilarious irony in trying to correct someones grammer and being wrong yourself..twice.

Hillarious misspelling of the word grammar.

Biggins

Minstrel27 wrote: »

Hillarious misspelling of the word grammar.

...Off with 'er head I say!

(There's one "l" in hilarious) :P

pickarooney

Minstrel27 wrote: »

Hillarious misspelling of the word grammar.

Hilarious misspelling of the word hilarious?

who the fug

Giselle wrote: »

According to another thread, its all in the breastmilk. Seriously.

Women can mix with brothers, sons, uncles, father, nephews and husbands. But they can't go out without a related man with them. Or drive. Or leave the country. Or get medical attention. Or work. Or get an education. Or do anything basically.

God is love. Apparently.

We have wimmen working in our office in Saudi, which I find a bit weird after all these years

Giselle

Whats with all the petty spelling and grammar sniping? I thought that was frowned on here?

who the fug wrote: »

We have wimmen working in our office in Saudi, which I find a bit weird after all these years

If they're Saudi, they need their 'owner's' permission to work. Its still surprising though.

up for anything

up for anything wrote: »

Much better to sit around and express disgust on boards. Have you tried doing anything about it?

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

Dudess wrote: »

Always one on these threads...

Um... ]what, for example, have "we" done along these lines? "we" do quite a bit along these lines. Irish people aren't in "glass-houses" - that's a load of ****. Even if there were human rights abuses carried out by our government, does that make ordinary Irish people responsible? No more than it made the ordinary German people responsible for the abuses carried out in front of their faces during World War II. Look at a list of countries and human rights abuses around the world and... shock horror! You won't find Ireland anywhere NEAR Saudi Arabia. In fact you'll find it very low on the list, despite this laughable notion people here seem to have that Ireland has been a terrible dictatorship at times. Hands up all the posters who believe that the Catholic church was that dictatorship! Oh and people can criticise barbarism if they want - it tends to be something that deserves to be criticised. Yes, absolutely. Something the USA tend to believe too. Let's clean up other countries houses before we clean up our own.

That's not what you said at all - you said we should not criticise Saudi Arabia because it's hypocritical... or something. I would go for the 'or something' option myself. Why jump down my throat when you can't be bothered to work out what I am saying.

I have a problem with people who are happier to criticise than actually try and do something about issues which they obviously feel so strongly about. I wonder how many posters here are more than armchair activists?

Novarock, in my opinion, was informing those who don't seem to know anything about the punishment other than what they read here, rather than supporting the method of punishment. I may be wrong.

Biggins

up for anything wrote: »

I have a problem with people who are happier to criticise than actually try and do something about issues which they obviously feel so strongly about. I wonder how many posters here are more than armchair activists?

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