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13 stone, 6 weeks, 10/11 stone?

  • 20-06-2010 3:02pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,727 ✭✭✭


    Alright lads, I'm around 13 stone and not liking it, I'm gonna start 5 mile runs every night with the dog from tonight.


    Reckon I could get down a lot of weight within 4-6 weeks, with not much food throughout the day, just what's necessary?


    Upper body weights aswell....:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 856 ✭✭✭Carl Sagan


    Do lower body weights too and base them around compound lifts.

    Make sure you keep eating throughout the day. Small meals regularly might work well for you. You should probably aim to just lower your fat levels slowly over the 6 weeks and see where you are.

    Oh yeah, don't just jump into doing a 5 mile run every night. You'll probably burn out fairly fast and your body will need to build up to that level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,727 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    Knew I forgot something, I've got stamina for days, so I can do it :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    What's your height?

    10 stone is pretty low to be aiming for. I'm 11 1/2 at 6 foot and I feel anorexic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,727 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    5"7'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 856 ✭✭✭Carl Sagan


    Knew I forgot something, I've got stamina for days, so I can do it :P

    You might still suffer from joint problems or stress fractures if you dive right in.
    I dived right into running 10km 6 nights a week for a while and was able to keep it up until I got a stress fracture. now I'm fairly ****ed! So you should definitely think about building it up - even if you're able for more.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭B00MSTICK


    What he said ^^

    I dived in and did 10k at 9km/h. (Ha I haven't ran in a long time now that I think of it!)

    Felt grand after, thought it'd take more out of me... had a beautiful case of cramp that night and was stiff as a board the next day!

    Make sure to stretch properly too!

    I'm 5'11'' and weigh in at 60kg btw

    As for diet if you want to lose weight your probably better off going for a low-calorie kick.

    There's definitely better people to advise you but I think the best idea is to not deny yourself food but to replace whatever you were eating before with alternatives.

    I used to have several bowls of cereal for breakfast and a toasties for lunch etc.
    and replaced them with an omelette/porridge and soup/fruit respectively and found it made a big difference.

    Once you're body get used to the lo-cal stuff it seems to want to eat less and less and you won't feel as hungry as before. At least that's my personal experience anyway.

    You'll find when you lose that bit of weight it won't take much of the weights to get that toned look.

    Your 0-60mph times drop too :D

    Best of luck with it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    you won't drop that much in 6 weeks, if you got to 12 stone that soon you'd be doing very very well


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Mellor wrote: »
    you won't drop that much in 6 weeks, if you got to 12 stone that soon you'd be doing very very well

    Don't listen to this type of "advice", it's anything but that...

    IF you put in the effort, change certain aspects of your life, then you can definately do this, I know because I did it. Remember, if you really want this, you have to seriously change your diet. Don't think because you go to the gym every night it will happen. The gym helps, but it's really what you are taking in that the problem lies with. Plenty of veg, fish and chicken, less carbs, sugars and unhealthy fats. It's not easy, but it's very very doable. Positive mental attitude ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Don't listen to this type of "advice", it's anything but that...

    IF you put in the effort, change certain aspects of your life, then you can definately do this, I know because I did it. Remember, if you really want this, you have to seriously change your diet. Don't think because you go to the gym every night it will happen. The gym helps, but it's really what you are taking in that the problem lies with. Plenty of veg, fish and chicken, less carbs, sugars and unhealthy fats. It's not easy, but it's very very doable. Positive mental attitude ;)

    You lost 10 to 15 kilos in 6 weeks from a standing start? do not believe.
    Mellor's advice was spot on, I'm betting the op is going on holiday soon and realised they wanted to look good for the beach, and as such they haven't considered the practicalities of losing that much weight or how long it takes, or what effect extreme weight loss has on their body. In addition their policy of 'not much food during the day' is not something anyone here should be advocating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Don't listen to this type of "advice", it's anything but that...

    You are welcome to disagree with me but please don't make ridiculous comments on how mine post wasn't advice. When it clearly was.
    I don't think it is possible, i was making the OP aware of this as sending him out with unachievable goals is hardly helpful. When he has been dieting/working out for 3 weeks and isn't halfway there, it's going to be more than a little disheartening.

    He should aim to do as much as he can. Don't stop after 6 weeks, and keep going until he gets to his goal weight. Be prepared for closer to 6 months to lose all the weight.

    FYI:
    3 stone in 6 week
    42 pounds in 42 days

    A pound of body fat requires a total of 3500 cal deficit.
    3500 deficit is not possible in a single day (based on the OPs stats) as it is greater than his maintenance calories. Even a 2 stone lose requires almost 2400 deficit, which isn't far from the OPs maintenance amount.

    Losing 2lbs a week would be the max imo (1000 def everyday). Which would be almost 1 stone in 6 weeks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 821 ✭✭✭xgtdec


    Alright lads, I'm around 13 stone and not liking it, I'm gonna start 5 mile runs every night with the dog from tonight.

    Did ya clear this with the poor dog:D

    Also in that amount of time EVEN if you dropped the fat intended your gonna have horrible strech marks that no amount of bio oil will shift.....just something to be wary of given your timeframe!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    xgtdec wrote: »
    Did ya clear this with the poor dog:D

    Also in that amount of time EVEN if you dropped the fat intended your gonna have horrible strech marks that no amount of bio oil will shift.....just something to be wary of given your timeframe!!

    You get stretch marks from a rapid reduction in size now?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    xgtdec wrote: »
    Did ya clear this with the poor dog:D

    Also in that amount of time EVEN if you dropped the fat intended your gonna have horrible strech marks that no amount of bio oil will shift.....just something to be wary of given your timeframe!!

    13 stone at 5'7" I don't think this is something OP needs to worry about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 821 ✭✭✭xgtdec


    well 3 stone in 6 weeks will leave marks, its elastic not playdoh!!

    i guess we'll see when he's 10 stone end of august:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,692 ✭✭✭Danger781


    xgtdec wrote: »
    Did ya clear this with the poor dog:D

    Also in that amount of time EVEN if you dropped the fat intended your gonna have horrible strech marks that no amount of bio oil will shift.....just something to be wary of given your timeframe!!

    I've got stretch marks on both sides of my stomach.. Looks like I got clawed by someone cause it's three parallel lines on both sides.. Pretty embarrassing when someone comments on it :o

    I've also got em on on both arms..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    xgtdec wrote: »
    well 3 stone in 6 weeks will leave marks, its elastic not playdoh!!

    i guess we'll see when he's 10 stone end of august:)

    How will losing weight leave stretch marks??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    Hanley wrote: »
    How will losing weight leave stretch marks??
    It often does - look at post-pregnancy tummies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 821 ✭✭✭xgtdec


    Hanley wrote: »
    How will losing weight leave stretch marks??

    lets take myself as the example...strechmark expert i am:o

    In the last 12 months ive lost round about 45.5 - 6.0 stone so from 20 to just about 14, usual male problem areas, belly handles etc, at 20 stone i had a massive solid boulderlike belly, as ive dropped weight it started to hang...think slime drooping over a ledge, all this hanging while dropping fat weight has led to giant marks, same under the arms etc because you spend a lot of time standing sitting etc any excess fat will hang and cause stretch marks while your trying to lose it, naturally its when ya have a lot to lose you notice it more, but droping 3 stone in a short period of time will not give your skins elasticity enough time to tone accordingly.......this is just my own view from my own XP btw...i am perfectly willing to stand corrected :p


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    g'em wrote: »
    It often does - look at post-pregnancy tummies.

    Would the stretch marks not come from the pregnancy?

    Is it not fair to say that the reduction in size a pregnant woman undergoes is far in excess of what the OP's expecting? (both in size snd speed of reduction?)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    xgtdec wrote: »
    lets take myself as the example...strechmark expert i am:o

    In the last 12 months ive lost round about 45.5 - 6.0 stone so from 20 to just about 14, usual male problem areas, belly handles etc, at 20 stone i had a massive solid boulderlike belly, as ive dropped weight it started to hang...think slime drooping over a ledge, all this hanging while dropping fat weight has led to giant marks, same under the arms etc because you spend a lot of time standing sitting etc any excess fat will hang and cause stretch marks while your trying to lose it, naturally its when ya have a lot to lose you notice it more, but droping 3 stone in a short period of time will not give your skins elasticity enough time to tone accordingly.......this is just my own view from my own XP btw...i am perfectly willing to stand corrected :p



    20 stone ---> 14 stone =/= 13 stone ---> 10/11 stone

    it's a moot point anyway because he's not losing a pound a day. Fair play on the weight loss tho, that's incredibly impressive!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    Hanley wrote: »
    Would the stretch marks not come from the pregnancy?

    Is it not fair to say that the reduction in size a pregnant woman undergoes is far in excess of what the OP's expecting? (both in size snd speed of reduction?)

    Oh they absolutely do come from the pregnancy :) But any speedy stretching of the skin will cause stretch-marks, that goes for people who gain weight either intentionally or unintentionally and it affects people differently. I have stretch marks around my tummy and my bewbage area from weight fluctuations over the years.

    You're right though, I don't think it's something the OP will necessarily need to worry about :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭ragg


    Someone losing 3 stone is unlikely to get stretch marks. It usually happens to people who lose huge amounts of weight quickly.
    3 stone doesn't fall into that category. If it has happened to someone on here they were very unlucky


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭metamorphosis


    I lost 5 and a half stone quite slowly and i have stretch marks - not many and not too noticeable but i do have some. I know someone who lot just under 4 stone fairly slowly and also has stretch marks - again not too many or noticeable. If you do lose it very quickly though i'd imagine you will have a lot as the skin will have had no time to adjust


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    You lost 10 to 15 kilos in 6 weeks from a standing start? do not believe.

    14 kilo lost in 8 weeks. 10 in 6 is very doable.

    What is a standing start?

    Doesn't matter if you believe me or not. That's not important, but it's similar to somebody not believing you putting on 3/4 inch on your biceps in 6 weeks ;)
    Mellor's advice was spot on, I'm betting the op is going on holiday soon and realised they wanted to look good for the beach, and as such they haven't considered the practicalities of losing that much weight or how long it takes, or what effect extreme weight loss has on their body. In addition their policy of 'not much food during the day' is not something anyone here should be advocating.

    Mellors advice was anything but. It was negative and he didn't give any reasons why.
    Mellor wrote: »
    You are welcome to disagree with me but please don't make ridiculous comments on how mine post wasn't advice. When it clearly was.

    If you had to have explained why, then it would have been considered advice but stating that he cannot do it is not advice. It's negative.
    I don't think it is possible, i was making the OP aware of this as sending him out with unachievable goals is hardly helpful. When he has been dieting/working out for 3 weeks and isn't halfway there, it's going to be more than a little disheartening.

    He should aim to do as much as he can. Don't stop after 6 weeks, and keep going until he gets to his goal weight. Be prepared for closer to 6 months to lose all the weight.

    FYI:
    3 stone in 6 week
    42 pounds in 42 days

    A pound of body fat requires a total of 3500 cal deficit.
    3500 deficit is not possible in a single day (based on the OPs stats) as it is greater than his maintenance calories. Even a 2 stone lose requires almost 2400 deficit, which isn't far from the OPs maintenance amount.

    Losing 2lbs a week would be the max imo (1000 def everyday). Which would be almost 1 stone in 6 weeks.

    And if he increased his training every day? Taking in the same amount of food? Wouldn't make a difference?

    Nobody said it would be easy, but it is very doable OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    14 kilo lost in 8 weeks. 10 in 6 is very doable.

    What is a standing start?

    Doesn't matter if you believe me or not. That's not important, but it's similar to somebody not believing you putting on 3/4 inch on your biceps in 6 weeks ;)



    Mellors advice was anything but. It was negative and he didn't give any reasons why.

    10 in six would be the very limit, and clearly your own experience shows that 15 in 6 is not possible, so you were incorrect to suggest otherwise earlier.

    A standing start is someone who is starting from scratch, not having trained in a long while if ever and hasn't clued themselves up on nutrition.

    14 kilos in 8 weeks is believable, but that's not what you posted initially so you were intentionally misleading.

    Mellor's advice was realistic, which the op and your post were not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    10 in six would be the very limit, and clearly your own experience shows that 15 in 6 is not possible, so you were incorrect to suggest otherwise earlier.

    A standing start is someone who is starting from scratch, not having trained in a long while if ever and hasn't clued themselves up on nutrition.

    14 kilos in 8 weeks is believable, but that's not what you posted initially so you were intentionally misleading.

    Mellor's advice was realistic, which the op and your post were not.

    I could have pushed harder, I could have cut out more junk food, I could have trained more and harder. That was not my limit yet I still achieved a lot. Last thing you want to say to somebody is that it's not doable. Anyway, should be looking at body fat %, not body weight. More important.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    14 kilo lost in 8 weeks. 10 in 6 is very doable.
    3 stone is 19kg, not 10kg.
    I stand by my opinion that it isn't do-able in 6 weeks for somebody starting at 13kg. 14kg in 8 weeks is an amazing achievement. But 19kg stone in 6 weeks would be almost twice the rate of weight loss. (1.75/wk vrs 3.17/wk)
    If you had to have explained why, then it would have been considered advice but stating that he cannot do it is not advice. It's negative.
    I didn't simply say "you cannot do it", I add an achievable target.
    And if he increased his training every day? Taking in the same amount of food? Wouldn't make a difference?

    Nobody said it would be easy, but it is very doable OP
    3500 deficit a day isn't doable for 6 weeks imo.
    The amount of exercise required to achieve that simply cannot be done every day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    He did say between 2 and 3, not just 3 ;) I do agree that 3 stone would be next to impossible to lose in 6 weeks especially at his weight. Sorry mellor but I took your initial post to be very negative. Hope ya understand that.


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