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Gun safety, best practices!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 763 ✭✭✭sealgaire


    They are not guns, they are toys


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,487 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    sealgaire wrote: »
    They are not guns, they are toys

    They are Realistic Imitation Firearms and should be treated as if they are real steel firearms, it's better to be safe than sorry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 763 ✭✭✭sealgaire


    If they are so dangerous then they should be controlled or licenced


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,487 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    sealgaire wrote: »
    If they are so dangerous then they should be controlled or licenced

    It's not about danger it's about what the public perceive them to be if they are seen in public, most people don't know about airsoft and seeing one being throw into the boot of a car with no case on it would look dodgy to the average person we have to account for that and take proper precautions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭Inari


    The thing about them being 'Toys' is valid to their use, but not to their transit. They look real, and the general public won't differentiate between Replica and Real, they won't take that risk.

    I was reading a review of an Airsoft Famas - he took pictures of the replica to include in the review, and his mother brought them to get developed. Next thing the guy hears is the Emergancy Response Unit knocking at his door, asking why he owns a nato-round firing assault rifle. It was all sorted out in the end, but it's key to remember that they look real so accounting for public perception is a nice safety precaution.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Puding


    there no longer 'toys', the law know classes them as RIFS ( Replica imitation firearms or realistic imitation firearms depending on where you read but both the same thing ) and in public a rif is treated as a real firearm that is why how there transported is so important

    the danger lies where people just see them as toys and without risk, it is where people get lazy and accidents happen


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 638 ✭✭✭amurph0


    Growler!!! wrote: »
    Ha ha, Have you played in the indoor site in the Marina?
    There's group of lads from the barracks who play regularly. They are known for sending a lad running into the offices at the back. When he gets riddled he calls "HIT" then proceeds to walk out saying "Yep, Theres 3 guys in that room":D. Then does the same thing into the next room:mad: - Never saw that in TM201........

    The guys i play with are foreign military. :P
    Growler!!! wrote: »
    Never saw that in TM201........

    Who says it isn't? And who say's it's not? :D TM201 is restricted and shouldn't be discussed on a public forum. I'm not sayin it's in there, but i'm not saying it isn't either because i'm not allowed say and neither are you! :P

    shhhhhhhhhh........! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭SNAKEDOC


    Puding wrote: »
    there no longer 'toys', the law know classes them as RIFS ( Replica imitation firearms or realistic imitation firearms depending on where you read but both the same thing ) and in public a rif is treated as a real firearm that is why how there transported is so important

    the danger lies where people just see them as toys and without risk, it is where people get lazy and accidents happen

    they are actually toys until used in a manner which shows the toy to be a real weapon. obviously using on a site is ok but running into a bank all tooled up with ak in tow is attemting to show the "toy" as a "real weapon". two seperate things. it is only an imitation firearm when used improperly in open view of the public. for use on an airsoft site they are toys. the term imitation firearm is used if gardai get involved when an incident happens and the public are put in fear of their lives cus they think a nut is running around with a real gun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Puding


    since last Christmas there rifs, does not matter if there on skirmish site or under your bed, that is there classification know, if it can be mistaken as a real firearm by the layman on the street it has the RIF classification in basic terms

    that is why the new laws on imports, 'when' enforced will govern the importation of RIFS, if something was only classified as a rif once it had been used in public as you say that would make no sense as the importation laws would not actually control anything

    we used to be toy because tbh we became legal by accident a loop hole as they say, with the new bill we obtained legal recognition and the definition of a RIF, the definition of RIF is defined by look not by use


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