Stronglift 5*5

sharky86

Hey folks,
Quick question..I want to start lifting weight now, been doing the couch to 5 k programe for a while and fitness starting to improve I think its now time to work on ymstrengh.

Is the stronglift 5*5 program worth doing? Also should I do it as in 5 sets of squats in a row or 1set squat followed by deadlift and so on 5 times?

Thanks
Sharky

TommyKnocker

sharky86 wrote: »

Is the strong lift 5*5 program worth doing?

Yes, definitely, but make sure that you get someone to show you the correct form on the big lifts (squats, Deads etc). Also make sure that you are eating enough to support the program.

sharky86 wrote: »

Also should I do it as in 5 sets of squats in a row or 1set squat followed by deadlift and so on 5 times?

No. you do all your squat sets, then move on to the next exercise and do all sets of that and so on.

Also make sure that you start with the empty bar as prescribed. This allows you to get your technique nailed down before you start getting up in weight. It also prevents you from having to reset too early.


Best of luck,

M

d'Oracle

You do it as its described.

5 sets of 5 squats,
then 5 sets of 5 presses
Then you do your sets of pulls.

Its works fine, I prefer Starting Strength, for a number of reasons.
Mostly because the guy who designed Starting Strength is an actual coach with actual experience.

TommyKnocker

I picked Strong Lifts purely as it is 5x5 rather than 3x5. I'm a volume whore

Also I added in the power cleans just cos I like them and I do 2 x5 DL's for the same reason. I love the weeks when I have to squat and DL twice

M

d'Oracle

B-Builder wrote: »

I picked Strong Lifts purely as it is 5x5 rather than 3x5. I'm a volume whore

Also I added in the power cleans just cos I like them and I do 2 x5 DL's for the same reason. I love the weeks when I have to squat and DL twice

M

YNDTP

TommyKnocker

d'Oracle wrote: »

YNDTP

Hehehe I know, but making progress, so it's all good

M

Apip99

Massive believer and follower of the 5x5. I've been doing it for the past 2 months or so, and the results are quite staggering imo.

As B-Builder said, get some one to show you through the correct form, as it will reward you in the long run. Also make sure you start at a relatively low weight, as you adding week on week, it takes no time to get up to the heavy stuff.

Oh and eat like a horse............ you'll need to!

Enjoy

Brian?

In agreement with the other lads about stronglifts 5x5. I also prefer to to starting strength, but starting strength is exactly what it says a beginners program.

OP, download yourself an excel logbook for the program and get going.

the drifter

Hi

I got this excel sheet form the web somewhere might be useful

d'Oracle

briankeating wrote: »

In agreement with the other lads about stronglifts 5x5. I also prefer to to starting strength, but starting strength is exactly what it says a beginners program.

OP, download yourself an excel logbook for the program and get going.

What the hell is Stronglifts then?

sharky86

Great stuff. Plan to start on Monday next. thanks for the reply's

TommyKnocker

d'Oracle wrote: »

What the hell is Stronglifts then?

It's a strength program, similar to SS

See http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-beginner-strength-training-program/


Best Regards,

M

Hanley

d'Oracle wrote: »

What the hell is Stronglifts then?

A big steaming pile of crap??

Scuba Ste

B-Builder wrote: »

It's a strength program, similar to SS

See http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-beginner-strength-training-program/


Best Regards,

M

I think he means if SS is a beginners program what is SL, as in it too is a beginners program.

I prefer SS too. Don't think its a great idea doing pushups after bench and pull ups after deads. Don't think going 5x5 every day is great either but each to their own. Also starting with the bar is a waste imo. Start with something your comfortable with and go from there, just don't increase the weight if your form is for crap.

Magic Eight Ball

B-Builder wrote: »

I picked Strong Lifts purely as it is 5x5 rather than 3x5. I'm a volume whore

Also I added in the power cleans just cos I like them and I do 2 x5 DL's for the same reason. I love the weeks when I have to squat and DL twice

M

I do 5x5 deadlifts.. that's a volume whore!

Brian?

d'Oracle wrote: »

What the hell is Stronglifts then?

ahhh, you have me there. Its a beginners linear progression programme as well.

What I meant was that I found starting strength great to begin with but after a while even though I was still gaining strength i felt the volume was too low. This could have been impatience on my part but I'm making great gains on SL5x5.

To sum up, both good but you might find SS volume too low.

Brian?

Hanley wrote: »

A big steaming pile of crap??

I was about to draft a nice big post on why you were wrong and it's great. A sudden realisation hit me though when I opened my excel logbook, I am not actually doing stronglifts, I'm doing doing Bill Starrs intermediate 5x5.

All of my posts up to this point can be ignored so. Apologies.

TommyKnocker

I'll admit that I don't have the lifting experience of some of the posters on here. However I think Strong Lifts 5x5 is pretty good and a lot better then the cookie cutter routines handed out by the majority of trainers in the commercial gyms or the latest "Chiselled body in 8 weeks" workout from mens health.

At least it is based around the compoud lifts, is progressive and does produce results.

Would be interrested in why it has been albelled a "Steaming pile of crap"


M

kevpants

B-Builder wrote: »

I'll admit that I don't have the lifting experience of some of the posters on here. However I think Strong Lifts 5x5 is pretty good and a lot better then the cookie cutter routines handed out by the majority of trainers in the commercial gyms or the latest "Chiselled body in 8 weeks" workout from mens health.

At least it is based around the compoud lifts, is progressive and does produce results.

Would be interrested in why it has been albelled a "Steaming pile of crap"


M

Basically because it's been put together by a bloke who snipped a load of ideas from other people and created a "Stronglifts" culture around it. The guy who came up with it has pretty much no lifting background to speak of.

It's grand in that it's a plan for those who have none but it's equivalent to me setting up a website with the words.

"Do squats, keep adding weight"

on the homepage and nothing else but a forum for people to talk about how great I am (might not be a bad idea actually).

g'em

kevpants wrote: »

... and nothing else but a forum for people to talk about how great I am (might not be a bad idea actually).

WWB-PD?

TommyKnocker

kevpants wrote: »

Basically because it's been put together by a bloke who snipped a load of ideas from other people and created a "Stronglifts" culture around it. The guy who came up with it has pretty much no lifting background to speak of.

It's grand in that it's a plan for those who have none but it's equivalent to me setting up a website with the words.

"Do squats, keep adding weight"

on the homepage and nothing else but a forum for people to talk about how great I am (might not be a bad idea actually).

But isn't this the same ethos as SS. Keep adding weight to your lifts each workout, or am I missing something here?

Ok so SS, was formulated by Rip, who is a well respected coach. However both programs seem (to me anyway) to follow much the same progression.

As I stated previously my only reason for chosing SL over SS was that there were more sets, and I like volume. And after faffing around the gym for 8 or 9 months with body builders routines and getting no where, I am happy with the progress I have made using SL.


M

kevpants

g'em wrote: »

WWB-PD?

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Woooahh Water Boarding - Pretty Dangerous?

I got nothing here.

What the hell are you talking about?

brianthebard

B-Builder wrote: »

But isn't this the same ethos as SS. Keep adding weight to your lifts each workout, or am I missing something here?

That to me would be the problem, there were already recognised beginners linear progression programmes in the form of SS and Starr's 5x5 and stronglifts rips them off without adding anything better to them.

What Would BradPants Do, Kevin.

kevpants

brianthebard wrote: »

What Would BradPants Do, Kevin.

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the drifter

kevpants wrote: »

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brianthebard

kevpants wrote: »

Holy crap. Is that an Internet thing now?

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sharky86

So forgetting about who plagiarized who . This program will do the job I want it to correct? It will help me slowly build up some strenght and maybe learn a thing or two about lifting?

Oh question...how do you warm up for lifting. Just do a few sets of lighter weights building up to your working weight or like I normalling do now just do some light cardio?

d'Oracle

sharky86 wrote: »

So forgetting about who plagiarized who . This program will do the job I want it to correct? It will help me slowly build up some strenght and maybe learn a thing or two about lifting?

You probably won't learn much about lifting from a programme.
That generally comes from reading stuff written by or asking questions of people who know about lifting. Or being coached in the lifts.

Novice progressions are supposed to be about building strength quickly, because you can.
This is why people think stronglifts is good.

I think stronglifts is silly, because it asks you to start with 5x5 with an empty bar and progress from there.
Also the exercise selection (outside squat, deadlift, press and bench) makes no sense to me.

d'Oracle

B-Builder wrote: »

It's a strength program, similar to SS

See http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-beginner-strength-training-program/


Best Regards,

M

Is this post meant to be sarcasm?:)

TommyKnocker

d'Oracle wrote: »

Is this post meant to be sarcasm?:)

Nope, I honestly didn't understand your post when you asked "What's strong lifts then"

You meant strong lifts is also a beginners program. I thought maybe you really didn't know what strong lifts was. Sorry about that .


Best Regards,

M