Do you feel guilty about illegally downloading?

RolandIRL

most people do it, but do you feel guilty?

I don't because if i did, i'd become overwhelmed with guilt over the amount of stuff i download.

triple-M

no not at all,at the end of the day its only filesharing

Max Power1

@op
lars ulrich is that you?

bonerm

Sounds to me like you have white mans guilt.

Mr Benevolent

No, it's the recession. I saved myself €300 over the weekend by downloading. I also bought a game because it was supposed to be good, turned out to be ****e. A waste of my money.

Brava

You'd get more honest answers if the poll wasnt public.

Duggy747

I can see it already:

RT&#200 wrote: »

A young adult commits suicide after not being able to live with the guilt of downloading.

I don't feel guilty. Hell, dya think 20th Century Fox feel guilty when they produce tripe and expect you to buy their terrible movies with god-awful "extras" for tidy sum of €25?

Then again, I don't go nuts with downloading anymore.

RolandIRL

Brava wrote: »

You'd get more honest answers if the poll wasnt public.

damn, i unclicked the parse links button but i must have clicked public poll instead. i'll ask a mod to change it

Mike 1972

I dont download illegally (because theres damn all worth downloading that I havent seen/heard already) but if no I wouldnt feel guilty in the slightest

Nemanja91

No, it's about time we get our own back, we are being robbed enough ourselves

drakshug

I haven't done so since I moved to Ireland. I can now afford to buy it. I am still a VIP on a torrent site though

stovelid

When Jim Corr waded into the debate, I knew the game was up.

The guilt just became too crushing.

SIX PACK

Ah it kills me altogether... tbh i can hardly sleep at night...

FatherTed

whiteman19 wrote: »

most people do it, but do you feel guilty?

I don't because if i did, i'd become overwhelmed with guilt over the amount of stuff i download.

You created this thread so you must feel just a little bit guilty in the back of your mind.

Jaxxy

Nope.

orourkeda

no

ancapailldorcha

No more guilty than RTE do for taking €160 of us and then only showing anything decent or popular at a ridiculous hour of the morning.

squod

Hasn't hollywood or so-ny thought of making open source movies/music yet.
Quit fuhken bitchen about downloads, every second thread on AH is the bleedin' same.

Write a letter to the Times, or just GTFO.

Firetrap

Only if they catch me. Then I'll be fookin' sorry/guilty/whatever emotion you want :eek:

mcmoustache

No. The record companies would get the government to steal from us if they had half a chance.

My name is URL

I only download HD tv-shows which air here soon after they do in the US. I've made a moral decision to not pay 60+ euro per month for the privilege of HD.. I bought the TV so fcuk you Murdoch, we have the technology!

Agricola

I wouldnt download PC games simply because its killing the industry which gives me my hobby. Other than that, when it comes to movies or music, its open season.

My name is URL wrote: »

I only download HD tv-shows which air here soon after they do in the US. I've made a moral decision to not pay 60+ euro per month for the privilege of HD.. I bought the TV so fcuk you Murdoch, we have the technology!

Yeah, the minute they drop this 15 quid extra a month to get afew channels in HD, then Ill get it.

Mike 1972

Did the record industry feel guilty about overcharding people for music (which in many cases they already owned on other formats) during the 1990's ?

Do they feel guilty about the way they screw artists, independent music retailers (to the point of virtual extinction) and the general public alike ?

Do the movie studios feel guilty about forcing their paying customers to watch adverts trailers and propaganda (preaching to the converted) by locking playback menus on DVD's ?

Do TV production companies feel guilty about forcing national broadcasters to block their saltellite signals for expats

Do the distributors feel guilty about retaining 1950's practices in the year 2010 regarding delaying screenings of TV programmes and Films in some markets for months on end for no particularly good reason ?

My name is URL wrote: »

I've made a moral decision to not pay 60+ euro per month for the privilege of HD

Freesat HD + FTW

anniehoo

I dont feel guilty because "i think" i dont download illegally. Or do i? Is Grooveshark illegal? Thats about it, im pretty boring when it comes to the net

I'm a musician. I download copyrighted music and encourage others to do the same with my music.

I'm a programmer. I download copyrighted software and release everything I write under copyleft or permissive licenses.

Despite the fact that I can get everything for free, I buy what I particularly like. The rest isn't worth my money.

Intellectual property... why bother? The Lars Ulrichs of the world will hopefully find themselves bankrupt someday.

Overheal

Depends really. Sometimes I just care about being caught (which is why I will never download Hurt Locker, or operate illegal software at my company) Other times I do feel kinda bad, like, if you get Fair Use of something. I must have watched Iron Man in HD like 12 times now. I should probably buy the DVD. Or the blu ray... hmmm...

But things like ****ty video games - well it depends on the video games. I would have been pissed if I had spent the $50 to basically demo HAWX. I felt the game was worth - at most, $30.

Basically im not above contributing money to something I enjoy. However, I do a fair amount of torrenting. If theres an album i like, Theres a good 75% chance I will go buy the CD at some point. Also just because CD quality is a lot better sample than the 128k and 256kbps you find online or as mp3.

Overheal

Overheal wrote: »

Also just because CD quality is a lot better sample than the 128k and 256kbps you find online or as mp3.

FLAC format is the same quality as CD.

I've tried to feel bad for copyright holders, but I just can't.

ScumLord

The only time I felt somewhat guilty is after hearing the hurt locker didn't do well financially, it was leaked onto the net really early. The distributors say that killed the film but I'd say it gave it huge publicity at the same time but I guess you can't argue with the numbers but how well do films like that ever do really?

crispsandwiches

hey we have been overpaying for years so good to pay zilch now

ancapailldorcha

Agricola wrote: »

I wouldnt download PC games simply because its killing the industry which gives me my hobby. Other than that, when it comes to movies or music, its open season.

I'm quite strict about this oddly enough. Then again, I use my laptop for gaming so the latest titles are out of the question. Most of the games I buy are about €15 at the most so it's not asking a lot and they last a fairly good while as well. Far Cry took me ages. SWAT 4 cost me something like €5 and it was amazing.

My name is URL

ScumLord wrote: »

The only time I felt somewhat guilty is after hearing the hurt locker didn't do well financially, it was leaked onto the net really early. The distributors say that killed the film but I'd say it gave it huge publicity at the same time but I guess you can't argue with the numbers but how well do films like that ever do really?

What does "killing a film" mean though? It grossed fairly well, people made money from it and it was critically acclaimed.. it's an artistic creation and imo it's creators should be happy with it regardless of whether or not another couple of hundred million $ could have been squeezed from it

There's a movie called Ink, made on a budget of $250,000.. filesharing massively increased its exposure and ultimately led to higher sales

It's the greediest that oppose new things the most. No sympathy for them whatsoever

plein de force

so much so i can hardly sleep at night

Teutorix

squod wrote: »

Hasn't hollywood or so-ny thought of making open source movies/music yet.

Thats the most retarded post i have ever read I think it actually lowered my IQ. Why would a major corperation whose main goal is to make a profit release their products for free? they may as well give us a free CD player to play our open source music on. :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7w64fbqYQY

recylingbin

Does Nicholas Cage feel guilty about taking money for 'acting'?

tolosenc

Well, I was never going to pay for it in the first place, so it's not exactly lost revenue...

Willbbz

tolosenc wrote: »

Well, I was never going to pay for it in the first place, so it's not exactly lost revenue...

Exactly :-D

It's different getting for it free though. If I bought Adobe's Creative Suite I might actually use it after the first 10 minutes :pac:

jdooley28

i wouldnt steal a car but id download one if i could! no do not feel guilty at all

Elliemental

To be honest, I do feel a little bad about it. But hey, I always seed.

bazmaiden

I feel guilty for a couple of seconds... then I grab a tissue, and then fall asleep

so I suppose not really

eightyfish

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Did the record industry feel guilty about overcharding people for music (which in many cases they already owned on other formats) during the 1990's ?

They weren't "overcharging" because people paid the asking price. They're just like any company.

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Do they feel guilty about the way they screw artists...

This is true, though.

I used to work as a sound engineer in recording studios. I still have friends doing that and illegal file-sharing is hurting them. I do download because I don't have the money to buy CDs at the moment and I've bought thousands over the years, but I do feel guilty about it.

I don't feel guilty downloading films or TV, oddly.

darragh o meara

I download quiet a bit and dont feel bad about it, Mostly music and programs but here is the catch. If it is a program I need to only do one thing with I will use the downloaded version. If it is a program or album that I will be using quiet a bit I download a cracked version to try first and if it meets my expectations and requirements I buy the original.

I learned my lesson in the past and paid rediculous amounts of money on software that didnt do what I wanted it to do and so ended up as money down the drain.

Also as regards music I am a part time DJ who will download a track:
A. To see if it a any good
B. If it is requested at a gig and I dont happen to have it to hand
C. If it is not available pre-release to me

In all cases unless it is something totally obscure I buy the original on cd. Downloaded versions just lack the quality I like to put out.

privateBeavis

Guilty? na, sure isn't it a victimless crime!! :pac:

There's nothing more likely to drive a person to downloading movies than making them sit through the unskipable piracy warning that they put at the beginning of DVD's!!!

20goto10

Downloading is good for the music and movie industry because people are more willing to sit down and watch or listen to sh!te. The amount of sh!te movies I watch is unreal, but its only because they're free and I've nothing better to do. Occassionally you find a gem you would never have seen sitting on the xtra-vision shelves. But 99.999% of the time its all muck I'd never pay for in the first place.

I don't download music. I used to think it was because I was getting old until my younger cousins confirmed that they too find the music of today unbearable and listen to music from my generation and my parents generation. Maybe the music industry need to stop pointing the finger and take a good look at the muck they are producing as a source of decreased sales. Not that anyone believes their sales have been hit in the first place.

Another thing, wtf should someone become a millionaire for singing? And not even singing well. It's a talent that anyone with a voice box and a bit of practice can do.

baltimore sun

no way jose
if you can get something for free why the hell pay for it?

RolandIRL

Anti-piracy video to scare ye all ye've probably already seen this though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALZZx1xmAzg

MitchKoobski

I download a bit every now and then.

When I see movie companies and the RIAA going ape****, I don't feel guilty.
When I see a graphic designer or small time director losing out on money etc because his small time film is being downloaded the entire time, I feel guilty.

NothingMan

plein de force wrote: »

so much so i can hardly sleep at night

Me too. Luckily I have thousands of movies and songs to keep me entertained through those nights.

When it became viable to download high quality movies I did stop buying DVD's. Not because I stopped loving having a collection of movies but because I could download a blu-ray quality movie in 20 minutes or spend that time going to HMV and spending 6 euro on a SD version. I use my XBox as my DVD player and it is loud and annoying. My Laptop hooks up to my TV through HDMI and is silent. As it is I can't but a new release HD movie online for the same price as HMV sell SD DVD's so there's nothing for me in purchasing a physical copy.

The production companies need to catch up. It costs the same to rent a movie on the XBox as it does to buy it on DVD. Not gonna happen.

I do buy a lot more music though. More and more from legal downloads as my CD collection has just become a pile of broken cases and scratched discs. Still think the prices on them need to reflect the lower production costs though.

Don't get me started on e-books. Way over priced.

mathie

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Mike 1972

whiteman19 wrote: »

Anti-piracy video to scare ye all ye've probably already seen this though.

"Blocked in my country on copyright grounds"

Oh the ironing............

Nijmegen

NothingMan wrote: »

Me too. Luckily I have thousands of movies and songs to keep me entertained through those nights.

When it became viable to download high quality movies I did stop buying DVD's. Not because I stopped loving having a collection of movies but because I could download a blu-ray quality movie in 20 minutes or spend that time going to HMV and spending 6 euro on a SD version. I use my XBox as my DVD player and it is loud and annoying. My Laptop hooks up to my TV through HDMI and is silent. As it is I can't but a new release HD movie online for the same price as HMV sell SD DVD's so there's nothing for me in purchasing a physical copy.

The production companies need to catch up. It costs the same to rent a movie on the XBox as it does to buy it on DVD. Not gonna happen.

I do buy a lot more music though. More and more from legal downloads as my CD collection has just become a pile of broken cases and scratched discs. Still think the prices on them need to reflect the lower production costs though.

Don't get me started on e-books. Way over priced.

Your opinion of the price is not relevant, unless everyone thinks the same and stops purchasing and the market finds a new price point (for example, the price of movies have come down many pegs.)

If you don't want to pay the price for a luxury good, then you cannot have it. It is as simple as that.

Our society works on laws like that. You work and you get a certain minimum... Even if you don't work, you get something. And if you want things, you buy them at the market price... Or you can't have them.

It's as simple as that.

Rockn

Nijmegen wrote: »

Your opinion of the price is not relevant, unless everyone thinks the same and stops purchasing and the market finds a new price point (for example, the price of movies have come down many pegs.)

If you don't want to pay the price for a luxury good, then you download it from the internet. It is as simple as that.

Our society works on laws like that. You work and you get a certain minimum... Even if you don't work, you get something. And if you want things, you buy them at the market price... Or you download them from the internet.

It's as simple as that.

No it's as simple as that.