Richard Bruton sacked as Fine Gael Deputy leader

The_Kew_Tour

Well done Enda, ya really are making dogs bollocks of your reign as leader of FG and any chance of getting FG into Government.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0614/finegael.html

Absurdum

Enda Kenny looks like he still gets touched by priests.

The_Minister

FFS, don't sack someone you can't replace.

One of the big problems with Bruton becoming leader would have been that with Lee gone, FG had no-one to take the role of Finance Minister.

Now that isn't a problem.:rolleyes:

bleg

The_Minister wrote: »

FFS, don't sack someone you can't replace.

One of the big problems with Bruton becoming leader would have been that with Lee gone, FG had no-one to take the role of Finance Minister.

Varadkar, Hayes...

TheZohanS

Well played anon.

The_Minister

bleg wrote: »

Varadkar, Hayes...

You're joking.

RonMexico

Anyone with the name Enda can never be taken seriously as a leader.

or Anto.

Pj!

Step down Enda

sdanseo

Enda Kenny just comitted political suicide I reckon. He needs to go.

I'd vote for FG with Bruton in Charge, but probably waste it on Labour or smaller parties if Kenny stays.

milehip1

adrian280582 wrote: »

Well done Enda, ya really are making dogs bollocks of your reign as leader of FG and any chance of getting FG into Government.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0614/finegael.html

What other option did he have?(save quitting himself)

sdanseo

milehip1 wrote: »

What other option did he have?(save quitting himself)

None really. He should resign tbh, he doesn't have the charisma to lead the country.

Sam Vimes

Gobhs!te

dr.bollocko

Surely if this facilitates his rapid departure as leader of FG this is a good thing?
Seems pretty prickish tbh.

brianthebard

The_Minister wrote: »

FFS, don't sack someone you can't replace.

One of the big problems with Bruton becoming leader would have been that with Lee gone, FG had no-one to take the role of Finance Minister.

Now that isn't a problem.:rolleyes:

Not an issue since labour will have the finance portfolio in the next govt.

Seriously surprised by this move though, didn't really believe that there was much opposition to Kenny in the party although that's my own fault for taking politician's statements at face value. i

Absurdum

Deleted User wrote: »

or Anto.

or Bertie lol

FlutterinBantam

brianthebard wrote: »

Not an issue since labour will have the finance portfolio in the next govt.

Seriously surprised by this move though, didn't really believe that there was much opposition to Kenny in the party although that's my own fault for taking politician's statements at face value. i

Big hair Burton?:D

You have to be kidding!!

Ali Babba

None of the parties that are there now are worth voting for, we need to hire the Taliban for about six months to sort the mess thats there now and execute the guilty ones that ran the country into the ground. Even though the country is still going down the tubes all our political parties are worried about is power and wages for themselves. Personally I think this country is too corrupt to ever recover thanks mainly to Fianna Fail and the crooks who support them.

smellslikeshoes

Terrible move by Kenny in my opinion. I'd say he would have gotten through a motion of no confidence before this but now with all this publicity he needs to go for the good of Fine Gael.

Ali Babba

I'd say FG are f**ked for sure now anyway, I'd vote for the Shinners now before i'd vote for any other political party in Ireland now anyway.

Fiskar

Bet George Lee is crying now!

Anyone remember when Lee was asked by Pat Kenny on the front line what he thought of Enda, " He's a very nice man". When asked what he tought of Richard Bruton, "He's a very nice man too"!

Two muppets IMO

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Politics in AH? This should end well...

The_Kew_Tour

milehip1 wrote: »

What other option did he have?(save quitting himself)

Resign

_sparkie_

roll on thursday morning!

smellslikeshoes

Ali Babba wrote: »

I'd say FG are f**ked for sure now anyway, I'd vote for the Shinners now before i'd vote for any other political party in Ireland now anyway.

In the long run I think this will probably end up being a good thing. They are up against the most incompetent and disliked government in modern history. If they aren't trouncing them in the polls something needs to be changed. Sacking Bruton is going to create short term chaos in the party but I think once the dust settles Kenny won't be at the helm anymore.

I_AmThe_Walrus

It doesn't matter who's sacked or who's hired.

Irish politics are rotten to the very core. The inflation is absolutely the stuff of science fiction. How it is so expensive, the cost of living in a village we call Dublin, which offers little more than the smallest French rural hillside town, is conclusively beyond me.

We are a people, now in 2010, living under laws brought about by the British during the Renaissance. While Europe has moved on, become more liberal in many ways, we have stood toe to toe with this "nanny-ish" all-seeing-all powerful conservatism project, the Government has secretly and ruthlessly instilled in us and to a more sad degree, have made us accept as "normal".

We are robots. Zombies. Sheep.

What Ireland needs more than ever, is a new generation of revolutionaries.

OPENROAD

smellslikeshoes wrote: »

Terrible move by Kenny in my opinion. I'd say he would have gotten through a motion of no confidence before this but now with all this publicity he needs to go for the good of Fine Gael.

Can't blame him to be honest.


But of all the weeks for Bruton to make his move, with the no confidence vote in Cowen, Jesus Wept!!!!!! I really do give up with Irish politics :rolleyes:

ejmaztec

Ali Babba wrote: »

None of the parties that are there now are worth voting for, we need to hire the Taliban for about six months to sort the mess thats there now and execute the guilty ones that ran the country into the ground. Even though the country is still going down the tubes all our political parties are worried about is power and wages for themselves. Personally I think this country is too corrupt to ever recover thanks mainly to Fianna Fail and the crooks who support them.

The last time that someone called in outsiders to sort out a bit of a problem, the guests didn't feck off for 800 years.


....and anyway, I'm not wearing a tea-towel on my head.

The_Minister

I_AmThe_Walrus wrote: »

It doesn't matter who's sacked or who's hired.

Irish politics are rotten to the very core. The inflation is absolutely the stuff of science fiction. How it is so expensive, the cost of living in a village we call Dublin, which offers little more than the smallest French rural hillside town, is conclusively beyond me.

We are a people, now in 2010, living under laws brought about by the British during the Renaissance. While Europe has moved on, become more liberal in many ways, we have stood toe to toe with this "nanny-ish" all-seeing-all powerful conservatism project, the Government has secretly and ruthlessly instilled in us and to a more sad degree, have made us accept as "normal".

We are robots. Zombies. Sheep.

What Ireland needs more than ever, is a new generation of revolutionaries.

At random:
We are in deflation.
Britain is waaay worse than us for all-seeing-government.
Dublin is better than a rural French village, but it is expensive.

OPENROAD

The_Minister wrote: »

At random:
We are in deflation.
Britain is waaay worse than us for all-seeing-government.
Dublin is better than a rural French village, but it is expensive.

?

Mr Benevolent

is a new generation of revolutionaries.

Cuba anyone?

FlutterinBantam

I_AmThe_Walrus wrote: »

It doesn't matter who's sacked or who's hired.

Irish politics are rotten to the very core. The inflation is absolutely the stuff of science fiction. How it is so expensive, the cost of living in a village we call Dublin, which offers little more than the smallest French rural hillside town, is conclusively beyond me.

We are a people, now in 2010, living under laws brought about by the British during the Renaissance. While Europe has moved on, become more liberal in many ways, we have stood toe to toe with this "nanny-ish" all-seeing-all powerful conservatism project, the Government has secretly and ruthlessly instilled in us and to a more sad degree, have made us accept as "normal".

We are robots. Zombies. Sheep.

What Ireland needs more than ever, is a new generation of revolutionaries.

Who would do exactly what?:D

Carstuck

I think Bruton would make a better leader than Kenny and after 8 yrs as leader without any of those in power I really do think its time that Kenny had the sense to step aside.

Handsome Bob

Another political masterstroke by the FG leader. GOOD for you Enda.

lost in my own head

_sparkie_ wrote: »

roll on thursday morning!

yeah, I'd say the whole country would be waiting for it. Was listening to him on the last word earlier, he's not planning to go down without a fight, should be fun.

Dempsey

FG get a smell of power and they implode. All Labour have to do is stay complaining about Fianna Fail, NAMA and Anglo-Irish and they'll be leading goverment.

Politics in this country needs an overhaul but looking for positive change is like asking turkey's to vote for christmas

PeterIanStaker

The cosy relationship between FF and the media works every time. Divided people with absolutely no morale or belief in themselves are easier to rule.

I_AmThe_Walrus

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Who would do exactly what?:D

"At the risk of seeming ridiculous, let me say that the true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love.... We must strive every day so that this love of living humanity will be transformed into actual deeds, into acts that serve as examples, as a moving force." - Che.

Ireland needs young blood in the Dail. Young blood with new and exciting idea's. A liberal ideology while turning the corrupt justice system on it's head. People who will distribute money wisely, plow the monies into our health care using the French procedure as a model, disband the military, focus on technology, the gaining of much needed public transport and infrastructure, the upgrading of docklands and Dublin Bay, re-claiming from the sea, an underground subway system and LUAS to and from airport, an entertainment hub to boost our tourism industry, prostitution and marajuana decriminalization, abortion for all, education sector thoroughly looked over, a massive negative view of religious practice and preaching in schools.

allthedoyles

Fine Gael are blueshirts , and will always be blueshirts .

Which is why they will never be popular in Ireland . They tried to ban our grandfathers in the 1930's and fought against their own people on the streets .

Read about them here :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blueshirts

Bruton or Kenny .......We don't really care

ejmaztec

I_AmThe_Walrus wrote: »

"At the risk of seeming ridiculous, let me say that the true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love.... We must strive every day so that this love of living humanity will be transformed into actual deeds, into acts that serve as examples, as a moving force." - Che.

Ireland needs young blood in the Dail. Young blood with new and exciting idea's. A liberal ideology while turning the corrupt justice system on it's head. People who will distribute money wisely, plow the monies into our health care using the French procedure as a model, disband the military, focus on technology, the gaining of much needed public transport and infrastructure, the upgrading of docklands and Dublin Bay, re-claiming from the sea, an underground subway system and LUAS to and from airport, an entertainment hub to boost our tourism industry, prostitution and marajuana decriminalization, abortion for all, education sector thoroughly looked over, a massive negative view of religious practice and preaching in schools.

May be a slight problem when the population has completely died out.

aDeener

I_AmThe_Walrus wrote: »

"At the risk of seeming ridiculous, let me say that the true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love.... We must strive every day so that this love of living humanity will be transformed into actual deeds, into acts that serve as examples, as a moving force." - Che.

Ireland needs young blood in the Dail. Young blood with new and exciting idea's. A liberal ideology while turning the corrupt justice system on it's head. People who will distribute money wisely, plow the monies into our health care using the French procedure as a model, disband the military, focus on technology, the gaining of much needed public transport and infrastructure, the upgrading of docklands and Dublin Bay, re-claiming from the sea, an underground subway system and LUAS to and from airport, an entertainment hub to boost our tourism industry, prostitution and marajuana decriminalization, abortion for all, education sector thoroughly looked over, a massive negative view of religious practice and preaching in schools.

you'll be voting centre-right i bet......

Mr Benevolent

Che Guevara was a idiot with nothing but idealisms. None of his guerrilla tactics ever worked, he barely knew which way he was pointed and once attacked a village because he needed an asthma inhaler. In other words he was a moron. It does explain him having Irish relations though.

Revolutionaries my arse. We need Switzerland's system of democracy and governance, not some pisspot terrorists quoting the Motorcycle Diaries.

Kiwi_knock

Caesar Kenny : Et tu , Brute?

PeterIanStaker

Kiwi_knock wrote: »

Caesar Kenny : Et tu , Brute?

Danger knows full well
That Caesar is more dangerous than he:
We are two lions littered in one day,
And I the elder and more terrible:cool:

REXER

Enda Kenny seems to have the same problem as Cowan, the desire to hang onto his position long as humanly possible. He should have been able to see the writing on the wall long before this and made a dignfied move to resign. All the feed back is negative WRT his leadership!

OPENROAD

REXER wrote: »

Enda Kenny seems to have the same problem as Cowan, the desire to hang onto his position long as humanly possible. He should have been able to see the writing on the wall long before this and made a dignfied move to resign. All the feed back is negative WRT his leadership!

This is Ireland.

milehip1

sdonn wrote: »

None really. He should resign tbh, he doesn't have the charisma to lead the country.

while cowan could be james bond's stunt double?

Mr Benevolent

milehip1 wrote: »

while cowan could be james bond's stunt double?

Nah. Cowen could be the Titanic's stunt double though.

Ostrom

There goes their small outside shot at my vote. Willingness to sack one's strongest team members to preserve selfish leadership ambitions...excellent quality.

OPENROAD

efla wrote: »

There goes their small outside shot at my vote. Willingness to sack one's strongest team members to preserve selfish leadership ambitions...excellent quality.

I am not a huge Kenny fan, but what option does he have, where are all the FG TD's coming out in support of Bruton?

sesna

efla wrote: »

There goes their small outside shot at my vote. Willingness to sack one's strongest team members to preserve selfish leadership ambitions...excellent quality.

Yeah sure, is that you Biffo ?

And had Bruton been successful, the "floating voters" would have criticised him for being too intelligent, out of touch with the people, having too much of an economics portfolio but lacking leadership experience, etc. Anyway, he has lost all credibility after his performance these past few days. He is lucky not to have been kicked out of Fine Gael for the damage he has caused.