redeployment.Whatever happened to the panel?

biscuit1

Hi there!
i remember a time when teachers wanted to move, they had a shot through the panel (though GAA, pol party membership wouldn't have harmed either!!) I have become CID in my school after 12 long years of being around the block and now my hubby wants us to move to be nearer home (young family) as we live away from our families. While I would love a move up west, I really don't want to give up my CID either .
I know that others (maybe getting married etc) are in a dilemma over this as well. Is the panel coming back? Is a new deal about voluntary redeployment being thrashed out between unions and gov?

doubleglaze

It looks like there is, so I wouldn't move yet until that comes in.

However, it may be more a case of involuntary deployment than voluntary.

It's wait and see time right now. Not a good time to be giving up your teaching job.

TheDriver

ASAIK, CID is only your entitlement to hours in your school/VEC scheme if they are available at all for someone.

ulysses32

TheDriver wrote: »

ASAIK, CID is only your entitlement to hours in your school/VEC scheme if they are available at all for someone.

CID is a guarantee that you will be treated the same as what is known as a PWT employee. It is not a queing system for "available" hours. CID is a permanent contract on either a full or part-time basis.

TheDriver

cid is not PWT, there was a thread about this a while back. To be honest, there is no massive certainty about what exactly CID is.

ulysses32

TheDriver wrote: »

cid is not PWT, there was a thread about this a while back. To be honest, there is no massive certainty about what exactly CID is.

Circular 0055/2008 clearly outlines the interchangeability of PWT and CID. They are the same thing if 18-22 hours. They are permanent part time if less than 18hrs.

TheDriver

I don't see anything in that circular that says PWT and CID are one and the other. It merely states the rights of a CID but for my liking, it doesn't state enough. Theres very varying things going on with CIDs depending on who is dealing with them at moment but I would much prefer PWT than CID if I had the opportunity and choice

ulysses32

What this circular does do is make statements such as:

For the purposes of calculating the number of serving teachers to whom there is an ongoing contractual obligation for any academic year, it is necessary to combine the number of permanent teachers with the number of CID teachers (expressed in wholetime equivalents). Based on the agreed definition of an employee on a contract of indefinite duration, those on contracts of indefinite duration have effectively the same tenure rights as a permanent teacher. The combination of permanent and contract of indefinite duration teachers will, in some instances, result in schools having a total number of teachers below, equal to or in excess of the number of approved permanent posts for the school

Circular 0055/2008 section 5.1.2.

This makes it clear that PWT and CID are the same thing in terms of tenure.

TheDriver

sorry to hear about that Monkey. Only thing which I can say is that if redeployment was a voluntary thing i.e. people wanting to move, half of Dublin teachers would be trying to get back to Kerry/Cork/Galway where PWT jobs are a lot lot thinner on the ground