Garda Polite and Patient

realslimshady

Couldnt believe what I was seeing here when I watched this video, opinions please?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dLJ_ARaRKg

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patient and professional

almost too patient

Ian Beale

Someone should message him the correct spelling of Garda :pac:

Ziycon

Would this not be considered entrapment as I would suspect the video'er went out with the intention of aggravating a someone and recording it?

Also is it not illegal to record someone and show it publicly without consent of the person on the video?!

Micky Dolenz

What an ass. It wasn't even funny, that driver just made a show of himself. Came across like a brain damaged hic.

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Micky Dolenz wrote: »

What an ass. It wasn't even funny, that driver just made a show of himself. Came across like a brain damaged hic.

i feel he was trying to test the members patience. waiting to provoke a reaction. fair play to the two members involved. i hope that man gets what he deserves in court. personally i feel he should of been arrested and charged but is everyone's different

jd83

God what an idiot. The guy had a camera and a copy of the garda oath or whatever he as trying to hand over on that card. So he is obviously speeding intentionally so he would be in a situation to make his little sad video. Should be done for wasting police time.

FruitLover

I don't understand why he kept waffling on about the Garda oath - if anything he was given more leeway than was fair, given that Garda time could be better spent elsewhere.

da__flash

FruitLover wrote: »

I don't understand why he kept waffling on about the Garda oath - if anything he was given more leeway than was fair, given that Garda time could be better spent elsewhere.

well i reckon the reason he kept on about the oath was because he wanted the member to refuse to talk so the the driver taught he could have a defence in court by sayin the garda refused to take his oath, but then again someone that goes out and does you'd wonder what they are thinking anyway

kruger248

da__flash wrote: »

well i reckon the reason he kept on about the oath was because he wanted the member to refuse to talk so the the driver taught he could have a defence in court by sayin the garda refused to take his oath, but then again someone that goes out and does you'd wonder what they are thinking anyway

I haven't watched this particular video yet but I get the feeling it's a freeman on the land thing. They have this theory that as long as they don't harm anyone no laws apply to them. It's a bit more complicated than that but they have been banned from the legal discussion forum as far as I know, so that shows how seriously it is taken.

pah

A 6 minute video. I'd have lifted him after 3. Having dealt with something similar before and just being so dazed and confused by the bullsh1t coming from the person I figured I'd cut my losses & left him off. Never Again I tell you Never Again.

It's like the polite version of being told "What the fcuk do you think you're doing stopping me? You want my name & address well you can fcuk off it's a free country isn't it"

SeaFields

You can clearly see the second garda's id number in the video. Maybe one of ye gardai posters should let him know he is after being recorded and put up on youtube.

Just add water

The guy knows exactly what he is doing and the gardai know what he is up to as well. The following video is the basis for it. That is why they let him off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0IM7Hobd_k

Ian Beale

pah wrote: »

A 6 minute video.

That's part two, there's part one that's another 5-6mins longer :eek:

Alpha Papa

Both the skipper and garda should be commended for their patience in dealing with this person. Im really impressed at there level of courtesy to him even mine might have been tested. These are two good guards simple as!

It does sound like they were aware it was being recorded as they state it at the end if im not mistaken.

Finnbar01

Alpha Papa wrote: »

Both the skipper and garda should be commended for their patience in dealing with this person. Im really impressed at there level of courtesy to him even mine might have been tested. These are two good guards simple as!

It does sound like they were aware it was being recorded as they state it at the end if im not mistaken.

Yes, they are aware as in part one you can see the garda tell the other garda.

Stench Blossoms

What an absolute tosser. Has he no life what so ever that he records being pulled over.

Don't know about anyone else but the way he kept repeating 'Garda' really bugged the bejaysus outta me.

Hooch

pah wrote: »

A 6 minute video. I'd have lifted him after 3. Having dealt with something similar before and just being so dazed and confused by the bullsh1t coming from the person I figured I'd cut my losses & left him off. Never Again I tell you Never Again.

It's like the polite version of being told "What the fcuk do you think you're doing stopping me? You want my name & address well you can fcuk off it's a free country isn't it"

And as pointed out that was one part....ten minutes in total!!!

While the members did very well....they failed in my opinion. He should have been dragged out the window kicking and screaming. If he didnt get out spray him.....if he refused to open the window/door....break it....simples.

No way would I spend 10 mins like that....being filmed or not doesnt matter. The power of arrest is there and should have been used.

I really hope they throw all summons they can at him.

Just add water

Alpha Papa wrote: »

Both the skipper and garda should be commended for their patience in dealing with this person. Im really impressed at there level of courtesy to him even mine might have been tested. These are two good guards simple as!

It does sound like they were aware it was being recorded as they state it at the end if im not mistaken.

The guy knows exactly what he is doing and the gardai know what he is up to as well. The following video is the basis for it. That is why they let him off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0IM7Hobd_k

Just add water

nice guy always wrote: »

And as pointed out that was one part....ten minutes in total!!!

While the members did very well....they failed in my opinion. He should have been dragged out the window kicking and screaming. If he didnt get out spray him.....if he refused to open the window/door....break it....simples.

No way would I spend 10 mins like that....being filmed or not doesnt matter. The power of arrest is there and should have been used.

I really hope they throw all summons they can at him.

The guy knows exactly what he is doing and the gardai know what he is up to as well. The following video is the basis for it. That is why they let him off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0IM7Hobd_k

Finnbar01

Nice guy always .. .are these free men encounters coming under the radar more frequently or are they just one offs?

Hooch

Just add water wrote: »

The guy knows exactly what he is doing and the gardai know what he is up to as well. The following video is the basis for it. That is why they let him off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0IM7Hobd_k

Please refrain from spamming the same ****e post again and again...thanks

Finnbar01 wrote: »

Nice guy always .. .are these free men encounters coming under the radar more frequently or are they just one offs?

Never had the PLEASURE of an encounter.....I live in hope though;)

multiscan

90km/h in 50 zone!!! bloody dangerous and way over the limit, he was doing it on purpose and should be done for Public endangerment

not sure if he was driving but this dipstick has posted this two videos

http://ie.linkedin.com/in/explode

Just add water

Finnbar01 wrote: »

Yes, they are aware as in part one you can see the garda tell the other garda.

why should it matter if they are being recorded or not. They have a job to do and they should it. The thing is, they did do their job perfectly.

Check this out. What they are doing is all based on this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0IM7Hobd_k

oldwan

' He should have been dragged out the window kicking and screaming. If he didnt get out spray him.....if he refused to open the window/door....break it....simples.

No way would I spend 10 mins like that....being filmed or not doesnt matter. The power of arrest is there and should have been used.'

not sure about that, power of arrest alright but wheres your power to enter private property? ie, his car, to arrest him??

may be wrong but dont believe there is under road traffic law

Hooch

Just add water wrote: »

why should it matter if they are being recorded or not. They have a job to do and they should it. The thing is, they did do their job perfectly.

Check this out. What they are doing is all based on this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0IM7Hobd_k

Take a few days vacation for you troubles.....same link....we get it.

Hooch

oldwan wrote: »

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not sure about that, power of arrest alright but wheres your power to enter private property? ie, his car, to arrest him??

may be wrong but dont believe there is under road traffic law

Common law power of enter to affect the arrest.

Whitewater-AGS

Just add water, people like you just dont learn

And yes you can use force eg smash the window to effect his arrest of course you would have told him to step out of the car first

twowheelsonly

What an ignorant pig of a man.
Clever enough not to show himself in the video though.
I'd love the opportunity to treat him in the exact same manner to see how he'd like it. Something tells me that he wouldn't.

A couple of things about it are strange though....

Wht didn't the Guards arrest him. He committed at least three offences, Speeding, failing to give his name and failing to have his licence with him.
They also never asked him to produce his licence or insurance.

Hopefully, if it's a true case, they throw the book at him and use the video in their favour in court. I'm sure that a judge would be very impressed.

pa990

twowheelsonly wrote: »

What an ignorant pig of a man.

+1

tommyhaas

Never been a particular fan of the Garda, but that sort of thing is pathetic. The lad needs to get out more. You'd want the patience of a saint dealing with that sorta sh1te. Can someone tell me what it is he'strying to achieve with this?

source

Just add water wrote: »

why should it matter if they are being recorded or not. They have a job to do and they should it. The thing is, they did do their job perfectly.

Check this out. What they are doing is all based on this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0IM7Hobd_k

What a load of conspiracy theorist, crusty nonsensical bollox. This is just a way of law breaking idiots justifying what they are doing as not being illegal, Also the big bad establishment isn't out to put you down, grow up and just live by the rules that everyone has agreed to live by.

scudzilla

Shame there isn't some sort of tard test that goes with the driving test, that would eliminate idiots like this

foinse

foinse wrote: »

What a load of conspiracy theorist, crusty nonsensical bollox. This is just a way of law breaking idiots justifying what they are doing as not being illegal, Also the big bad establishment isn't out to put you down, grow up and just live by the rules that everyone has agreed to live by.

Just a bunch of hypocrites who agree with and use the law only when it suits them... they won't acknowledge the law when they do something but you can be damn sure as soon as someone does something on them they wouldn't be too slow at calling the cops for help! Put them all on a rock (not this one!) and let them all play by their own fictional rules and see how well that works out!

As for the video... I would've imagined they would of had grounds to arrest on with-holding information or whatever the actual term is for it, and possibly wasting police time while they're at it??

Sierra Oscar

Darrell O'Dea (Twitter)

# Always question authority! 1:06 PM May 3rd via LinkedIn

Clearly has no cop-on.

da__flash

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Darrell O'Dea (Twitter)



Clearly has no cop-on.

whats even worse is theres 2032 people actually following him:rolleyes:

multiscan

realslimshady wrote: »

Couldnt believe what I was seeing here when I watched this video, opinions please?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dLJ_ARaRKg

and what is your opinion hmn?

shinikins

SeaFields wrote: »

You can clearly see the second garda's id number in the video. Maybe one of ye gardai posters should let him know he is after being recorded and put up on youtube.

Good point. I may be wrong (feel free to correct me) but is it not an offence to record a Garda without his express permission? And if that is the case, surely sticking the tape up on YouTube for all to see just compounds the stupidity!!!

I have to admit, there's no love lost on my part toward the Gardai, but fair play to these two for remaining so cool...I'm not sure i could have!!

Shield

I've made my feelings known on the other thread about this too, and they are identical to NGA's.

okioffice84

shinikins wrote: »

Good point. I may be wrong (feel free to correct me) but is it not an offence to record a Garda without his express permission?

I wouldn't think so, he is in a public place.

source

Just to clear up one or two things,

Section 107 Road Traffic Act 1961-2006, provides a power for the Garda to demand the name and address of a driver if he believes the driver has committed a road traffic offence, the same section also provides a power of arrest if the driver fails or refuses to give a name or address, and also, for if the driver gives a name or address that the member believes to be false or misleading.

Photographing/filming in a public place: The photographer does not need the permission of people that he is filming/photographing if he is doing so in a public place. Here are the rules for doing so.

pah

twowheelsonly wrote: »

they throw the book at him and use the video in their favour in court.

Seeing as the video was posted june 5th and his tweet about questioning authority was may 3rd, assuming this was around the time of the incident there's plenty time to throw the book at him for court and possibly use the video against him.

The members gave their names in the first part of the video, I'm sure they know about this video by now.

FruitLover

tommyhaas wrote: »

Never been a particular fan of the Garda, but that sort of thing is pathetic. The lad needs to get out more. You'd want the patience of a saint dealing with that sorta sh1te. Can someone tell me what it is he'strying to achieve with this?

I can only imagine he's trying to 'fite da powa' in such a petulant manner as most of us grew out of after adolescence.

I'd like to be able to dump one of these armchair lawyers in a situation of genuine anarchy and see how long they'd survive!

Duckjob

Hope the video poster goes to the States at some point and tries that one with a State Trooper... and videos the results. That'd be a video I'd pay to see :pac:

FWIW, I think both guards behaved impeccably in that situation.

Zulu

What an utter dick.

Fair dues to the Guards; jesus it gives insight into what they've to put up with.

pah

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Darrell O'Dea (Twit)

Finnbar01

so the charges he could be done for are:

Speeding.
Refusing to give his name and address.
Refusing to produce his license.
Refusing to produce his insurance.

I wonder how he's going to fight these in court.

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Finnbar01 wrote: »

so the charges he could be done for are:

Speeding.
Refusing to give his name and address.
Refusing to produce his license.
Refusing to produce his insurance.

I wonder how he's going to fight these in court.

i wonder would you be able to throw a charge of obstruction under public order act against him?

bravestar

A feat of superhuman restraint shown by those two members but a failure if you ask me. I would not have been so patient and after refusing his name the third time, I would of let him exercise his freedom some more by being givin the choice of exiting through the door or the window.

concussion

Why did he constantly ask the Garda and Sergeant to read their oath?

concussion

concussion wrote: »

Why did he constantly ask the Garda and Sergeant to read their oath?

Because he is a fúcking idiot.