How is Obama Destroying America

Overheal

Amerika wrote: »

Pot calling the kettle black?

I don’t want to deviate any more from the topic, otherwise to again be accused of hijacking the thread. (Some of us are required to operate by different standards than others.) Maybe you might want to start a new thread on that particular topic and I would be more than happy to oblige.

Okee Dokee.

How is he destroying America?

Amerika

Overheal wrote: »

Okee Dokee.

How is he destroying America?

Sorry. Not ignoring you, it’s just that a problem between a Belly Dancer, an old Jet Fighter Pilot, and an Anarchist needs my attention (don’t ask... geeeez... family!). I will get back to you later and show you the way.

Overheal

You can take all the time you want. Either way I remain skeptical of any systematic destruction of the country by the white house. As for incidental destructions, sure fire away. Extra points for not requiring references to Nazi Germany.

rovert

Barack Hussein Obama :eek:

LostinKildare

Permabear

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Denerick

donegalfella wrote: »

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I'm glad you recognise that the big government legacy is a shared one with both parties, dating back to Nixon (Even including Reagan) Republicans ignore the elephant in the room by increasing spending and cutting taxes. Democrats ignore the elephant in the room by increasing spending and leaving taxes static.

America needs to embrace social democracy as a full measure, not the half hearted measure it currently has. Taxes across the board should go up, by around 10%. Stop the spanner in the works - namely, military spending. Furthermore, embrace Latino immigration from the south (You need a supply of cheap labour and future taxpayers to pay for retirement benefits) and stop the absurd policy of subsidising foreign PHD students and then making it so difficult for them to become citizens that they just give up and go back to their host countries. The evidence supports that a large proportion of highly educated people with masters degree and higher would like to migrate to the United States. Embrace this demographic whole heartedly.

Obama is not ruining America. He's merely more realistic about what the future holds than most.

jank

donegalfella wrote: »

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Jezz, even for you that is a stretch!

Its funny that all of a sudden that big government spending is a problem now but not 18 months ago. Especially considering there were/are 2 wars being fought that have no real interest to america.
Funny also that you post a graph that spans 1970 to 2080 and somehow proportions blame to obama who has been not been in power even 100 weeks never mind over 100 years. Remember Reagan grew the deficit too and rose taxes!!;)

Give the guy a fcuking break!

Permabear

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Overheal

Thats fine but Im not sure that really helps answer my original question. The trend you highlighted has been going on for 50 years. Why now do we have the Tea Party Movement and Amerikas and Nutso like Glenn Beck coming out of the wood work and saying this president - THIS PRESIDENT - is destroying america. Not the last 50-100 years worth of Presidents?

Memnoch

Because he's black. and probably Muslim

Denerick

Memnoch wrote: »

Because he's black. and probably Muslim

To be frank, thats the answer. The 'truther' movement, mainly subscribed to by far right whackjobs and tea party activists, is merely a ruse to point out that Obama has an African father. Who is black.

To paint Obama as a left wing demagogue is absurd. With the exception of an egregiously watered down health care bill and a one off stimulus package, Obama has ruled as a centre right politician, hyping up the 'war on terror' (Despite not actually using those words) and of course, old right wing preserves are still intact, such as a ring fenced military budget, and Gitmo is still alive and well.

kev9100

The idea that Obama is destroying America is ludicrous. He is merely a moderately left-of-centre politician who is trying to clean up the mess that was left by the Bush administration.

But why don't we face the real question here? Why didn't the Tea Party lift a dam finger when Bush turned a budget surplus in to a massive budget deficit and vastly expanded the federal government through two wars? I'll tell you why, its because the majority of Tea Partyers don't like having someone who doesn't look like them in the White House.

Overheal

well given our resident republicans and conservatives dont seem able or willing to answer the question, I'll look up some examples from the interwebz.

/types "Obama is" into google homepage

- the antichrist
- a liar
- a joker
- a socialist
- a communist
- literally hitler
- a racist

Oh boy oh boy, where the hell do we start?

I think we'll just knock the Godwin out of the way first.

Obama is a) A Socialist? b) A Communist? c) Literally Hitler? or d) All of the above!!11!!11One1!!

Well, I'll spare you the history lessons. I got a C1 in History. And even I know the difference between Hitler and Stalin. The two are in many ways, mutually exclusive.

So he's probably Not Stalin at least. Not a Communist, Collectivist, or dare say even a Fascist (*shock*)

Literally hitler? Hmmm. Hitler, if alive today, would be 110 years old, and not black. I'm just going to presume my status of not a complete mental degenerate devoid of the concepts of time and space and assume he cannot literally be hitler. Even if I were religious, and believed like voldemort Hitler had been surviving in the Bavarian Wilderness by drinking the blood of stray Jews and Unicorns. That would still be unlikely; because everyone knows Unicorns don't exist.

Now on to the antichrist. Not being a religious guy, wtf is the Antichrist anyway?

/well, I just asked my boss, and he laughed at me: "The Antichrist will be One World Leader that all government will be handed over to him; a monarch, and he'll be from Europe or Asia."

My Boss is pretty big on the bible now

So by any stretch of Hawaii or Africa, we can strike *that* off the list of things The Obama is not.

Racist? Gonna have to explain that one to me. Perhaps Glenn Beck has already tried to base his accusations about this?

Joker? I mean the guy has a sense of humour ("Hallelujah, Holla Back" - Barrack Obama) But I wouldn't put him up there with even Robin Williams. /low blow

Liar? He broke campaign promises, like every other politician in History. Hot Damn! :eek:

Now to the Pertinent Question:

How is Obama Destroying America? I've heard everything from Health Care to Missile Shields and heard desperate attempts to have him impeached on laughable charges. From what I can see, he's done nothing any other President would not.

Amerika

Overheal wrote: »

well given our resident republicans and conservatives dont seem able or willing to answer the question,

Wrong again in your assumption. Sorry I’m not under your timeline (actually I’m not really sorry). You forgot to put the Jeopardy music link to your post to indicate you wanted a relatively quick response (I’m still waiting for a decent response for mine though).

Since you were hell bent on jacking up your smoking pipe for a rousing bit of leisurely reading, I thought I would oblige. I googled “Obama Destroying America” and it came back with over 13,300,000 hits. Unfortunately you would need the “Fountain of Youth” to go along with that smoking pipe for all that reading. Just think, 13,300,000 with less than a year and a half into office. Care to take a gander on what it will it be after 4 years or (god forbid) 8 years… in the quadrillions, quintillions, sextillions, septillions, octillions, nonillions, decillions, undecillions, duodecillions, tredecillions, quattuordecillions, quindecillions, sexdecillions, septendecillions, octodecillions, novemdecillions, vigintillions, undecillions, vigintillions or in the centillions (hey, at least now you can say you learned something from this post).

But seriously, first of all, I think “Destroying America” is a bad choice of words. I hope he can’t destroy our way of life, and hope that our country is strong enough to withstand the Obama. And smart enough to correct his actions, policies and agenda before it is too late. Personally, I would say Obama is “Bad for America.”

And I would say pretty much everything he has done so far is bad for America. And his favorability numbers seem to support my thoughts also. I was going to list each of his major accomplishments as POTUS so far, and provide links from others who do keep score of his misadventures (and as support/continuity for my claims and for your reading pleasure). But if you can’t wait, then take it at that… Every major policy change Obama has accomplished so far is bad for America, except maybe for additional troops to help in the war on terror. And I’m pretty sure most polls continue to put the ratings at around 60% that say Obama’s decisions are 'Bad for America.'

He is a threat to our current way of life (but not if we want to become Euromerica), and an elected mistake for America, that voters will hopefully correct in 2012.

Here are a couple of individuals (not experts… just average Americans) that ARE keeping track, and who seem to say what is on the minds of the majority of Americans these days.
http://hoosierarmymom.wordpress.com/2009/04/28/this-from-isgp-10-ways-obama-is-destroying-this-country/
http://tartanmarine.blogspot.com/2010/05/why-obama-is-bad-for-america.html

Oh yeah, I’ve seen a couple of ignoramus responses in this thread… why no faux outrage? (Rhetorical question)

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rovert

Amerika wrote: »

Wrong again in your assumption. Sorry I’m not under your timeline (actually I’m not really sorry). You forgot to put the Jeopardy music link to your post to indicate you wanted a relatively quick response (I’m still waiting for a decent response for mine though).

Since you were hell bent on jacking up your smoking pipe for a rousing bit of leisurely reading, I thought I would oblige. I googled “Obama Destroying America” and it came back with over 13,300,000 hits. Unfortunately you would need the “Fountain of Youth” to go along with that smoking pipe for all that reading. Just think, 13,300,000 with less than a year and a half into office. Care to take a gander on what it will it be after 4 years or (god forbid) 8 years… in the quadrillions, quintillions, sextillions, septillions, octillions, nonillions, decillions, undecillions, duodecillions, tredecillions, quattuordecillions, quindecillions, sexdecillions, septendecillions, octodecillions, novemdecillions, vigintillions, undecillions, vigintillions or in the centillions (hey, at least now you can say you learned something from this post).

But seriously, first of all, I think “Destroying America” is a bad choice of words. I hope he can’t destroy our way of life, and hope that our country is strong enough to withstand the Obama. And smart enough to correct his actions, policies and agenda before it is too late. Personally, I would say Obama is “Bad for America.”

And I would say pretty much everything he has done so far is bad for America. And his favorability numbers seem to support my thoughts also. I was going to list each of his major accomplishments as POTUS so far, and provide links from others who do keep score of his misadventures (and as support/continuity for my claims and for your reading pleasure). But if you can’t wait, then take it at that… Every major policy change Obama has accomplished so far is bad for America, except maybe for additional troops to help in the war on terror. And I’m pretty sure most polls continue to put the ratings at around 60% that say Obama’s decisions are 'Bad for America.'

He is a threat to our current way of life (but not if we want to become Euromerica), and an elected mistake for America, that voters will hopefully correct in 2012.

Here are a couple of individuals (not experts… just average Americans) that ARE keeping track, and who seem to say what is on the minds of the majority of Americans these days.
http://hoosierarmymom.wordpress.com/2009/04/28/this-from-isgp-10-ways-obama-is-destroying-this-country/
http://tartanmarine.blogspot.com/2010/05/why-obama-is-bad-for-america.html

Oh yeah, I’ve seen a couple of ignoramus responses in this thread… why no faux outrage? (Rhetorical question)

Bush destroyed America got 5,290,000 results

Your point?

Amerika

rovert wrote: »

Bush destroyed America got 5,290,000 results

Your point?

Not really making a point, but since you brought up that interesting statistic, and comparing 5,290,000 for 8 years of service to 13,300,000 for 1.5 years of service, that extrapolates out that Barack Obama being about 13.5 times as bad for America as was GW Bush. And if the trend continues, after 8 years Obama will be almost 110 times worse than Bush. Hey figures don't lie.;) Thanks for your help.

Denerick

Amerika wrote: »

Wrong again in your assumption. Sorry I’m not under your timeline (actually I’m not really sorry). You forgot to put the Jeopardy music link to your post to indicate you wanted a relatively quick response (I’m still waiting for a decent response for mine though).

Since you were hell bent on jacking up your smoking pipe for a rousing bit of leisurely reading, I thought I would oblige. I googled “Obama Destroying America” and it came back with over 13,300,000 hits. Unfortunately you would need the “Fountain of Youth” to go along with that smoking pipe for all that reading. Just think, 13,300,000 with less than a year and a half into office. Care to take a gander on what it will it be after 4 years or (god forbid) 8 years… in the quadrillions, quintillions, sextillions, septillions, octillions, nonillions, decillions, undecillions, duodecillions, tredecillions, quattuordecillions, quindecillions, sexdecillions, septendecillions, octodecillions, novemdecillions, vigintillions, undecillions, vigintillions or in the centillions (hey, at least now you can say you learned something from this post).

But seriously, first of all, I think “Destroying America” is a bad choice of words. I hope he can’t destroy our way of life, and hope that our country is strong enough to withstand the Obama. And smart enough to correct his actions, policies and agenda before it is too late. Personally, I would say Obama is “Bad for America.”

And I would say pretty much everything he has done so far is bad for America. And his favorability numbers seem to support my thoughts also. I was going to list each of his major accomplishments as POTUS so far, and provide links from others who do keep score of his misadventures (and as support/continuity for my claims and for your reading pleasure). But if you can’t wait, then take it at that… Every major policy change Obama has accomplished so far is bad for America, except maybe for additional troops to help in the war on terror. And I’m pretty sure most polls continue to put the ratings at around 60% that say Obama’s decisions are 'Bad for America.'

He is a threat to our current way of life (but not if we want to become Euromerica), and an elected mistake for America, that voters will hopefully correct in 2012.

Here are a couple of individuals (not experts… just average Americans) that ARE keeping track, and who seem to say what is on the minds of the majority of Americans these days.
http://hoosierarmymom.wordpress.com/2009/04/28/this-from-isgp-10-ways-obama-is-destroying-this-country/
http://tartanmarine.blogspot.com/2010/05/why-obama-is-bad-for-america.html

Oh yeah, I’ve seen a couple of ignoramus responses in this thread… why no faux outrage? (Rhetorical question)

This is amazing! You didn't actually say anything of substance there, just re-iterated a few well worn catchphrases - 'Obama is bad for America', 'Obama was an electoral mistake', 'Everything he has done is bad for America'...

Again, you are not on the Rush Limbaugh show. Thinking people require more information and argumentation than mere slogans.

toiletduck

donegalfella wrote: »

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This pretty much. Eight years of everything from Bush installing himself as dictator to him taking loadsa golf breaks in the lead up to 9/11 contributing to the event somehow, being given weight (well Obama has him beat there anyways). I guess the Republicans learned throw enough ****, and some of it will stick.

I read an article lately which was pointing out what the reaction would have been if the previous president made a joke about drones in the light of the amount of civilian casualties in recent times.

Is Obama destroying America? No. But the truth doesn't matter, and didn't during 2001-2008.

Memnoch wrote: »

Because he's black. and probably Muslim

Heh, just like those who said Bush was destroying the country were anti-Americans right?

Amerika

Denerick wrote: »

This is amazing! You didn't actually say anything of substance there, just re-iterated a few well worn catchphrases - 'Obama is bad for America', 'Obama was an electoral mistake', 'Everything he has done is bad for America'...

Again, you are not on the Rush Limbaugh show. Thinking people require more information and argumentation than mere slogans.

Anybody know how to link the above post to the Urban Dictionary as a definition and example of “Faux Outrage?” :rolleyes:

rovert

Amerika wrote: »

Not really making a point, but since you brought up that interesting statistic, and comparing 5,290,000 for 8 years of service to 13,300,000 for 1.5 years of service, that extrapolates out that Barack Obama being about 13.5 times as bad for America as was GW Bush. And if the trend continues, after 8 years Obama will be almost 110 times worse than Bush. Hey figures don't lie.;) Thanks for your help.

Yep Republicians are that more mental.

(Not a shot at you obvs)

Denerick

Amerika wrote: »

Anybody know how to link the above post to the Urban Dictionary as a definition and example of “Faux Outrage?” :rolleyes:

I'm not outraged, I'm amused. You see, I'm not a shock jock on some pathetic right wing show that peddles outrage for profit. I enjoy your political sloganisings, they make me laugh. They remind me how lucky I am to live in a relatively sane country.

Amerika

Denerick wrote: »

I'm not outraged, I'm amused. You see, I'm not a shock jock on some pathetic right wing show that peddles outrage for profit. I enjoy your political sloganisings, they make me laugh. They remind me how lucky I am to live in a relatively sane country.

Hey, glad I can entertain you (and glad you can't vote in the next US presidential election). Don't forget to buy gold.

Amerika

jank wrote: »

Give the guy a fcuking break!

Here is little humor for you to add to your post, then it won't sound so pathetic.

kev9100

Amerika, can you please just answer this simple question? Why didn't conservatives care when Bush destroyed the Clinton surplus and launched two foreign wars? All I want is a simple answer.

alastair

I look forward to the ramped-up GOP circus of the next presidential campaign, and the new heights of paranoia that Obama's second term brings. It can only get weirder and funnier.

(I thought Clinton was destroying America years back - you mean there's still a ways to go?)

Amerika

kev9100 wrote: »

Amerika, can you please just answer this simple question? Why didn't conservatives care when Bush destroyed the Clinton surplus and expand two foreign wars? All I want is a simple answer.

As I recall, Conservatives were outraged, but Republicans were not. As for me, I wasn’t thrilled with Bush’s excessive spending. And I'm really not thrilled about Obama’s massive spending. (Personally, I think Bush’s social spending was a payback to Democrats for their support for the war on terror). I really don’t think Clinton had a surplus though, as I believe it revolved around some trickery in the way expenses were reclassified (see below). And we were attacked, which resulted in wars, and wars do cost money... You can’t fight them with spitballs (although John Kerry tried to).

Acceptable?



Fiscal ..... Year
Year ..... Ending ..... National Debt ..... Deficit
FY1993 09/30/1993 $4.411488 trillion
FY1994 09/30/1994 $4.692749 trillion $281.26 billion
FY1995 09/29/1995 $4.973982 trillion $281.23 billion
FY1996 09/30/1996 $5.224810 trillion $250.83 billion
FY1997 09/30/1997 $5.413146 trillion $188.34 billion
FY1998 09/30/1998 $5.526193 trillion $113.05 billion
FY1999 09/30/1999 $5.656270 trillion $130.08 billion
FY2000 09/29/2000 $5.674178 trillion $17.91 billion
FY2001 09/28/2001 $5.807463 trillion $133.29 billion

Killer Pigeon

Irony:

Barrack - Iraq
Hussein - Saddam Hussein
Obama - Osama

:P

Overheal

Amerika wrote: »

Not really making a point, but since you brought up that interesting statistic, and comparing 5,290,000 for 8 years of service to 13,300,000 for 1.5 years of service, that extrapolates out that Barack Obama being about 13.5 times as bad for America as was GW Bush. And if the trend continues, after 8 years Obama will be almost 110 times worse than Bush. Hey figures don't lie.;) Thanks for your help.

Well you aren't exactly accounting for Internet Inflation. When bush took office boards.ie was till about Quake and 1337 5P34k and we were just coming out from the .com bubble... people still used Yahoo for fecks sake.

When Obama came to office, we had all manner of facebooks myspaces and twitters in place.

Conclusively, I place little stock in the number of hits on google as a polling statistic.

Amerika wrote: »

As I recall, Conservatives were outraged, but Republicans were not. As for me, I wasn’t thrilled with Bush’s excessive spending. And I'm really not thrilled about Obama’s massive spending. (Personally, I think Bush’s social spending was a payback to Democrats for their support for the war on terror). I really don’t think Clinton had a surplus though, as I believe it revolved around some trickery in the way expenses were reclassified (really, how can you claim to have a $236 billion surplus, when the national debt increased by $18 billion). And we were attacked, which resulted in wars, and wars do cost money... You can’t fight them with spitballs (although John Kerry tried to).

Acceptable?

I'll grant you that. I can even see why that alone is enough for the Tea Party Movement. Still doesn't explain why he's being described as the Hitler-Communist Antichrist, but its a start

Amerika

Overheal wrote: »

people still used Yahoo for fecks sake.

Now you've gone too far!!! I still utilize Yahoo as my homepage (I even still utilize Lotus for most spreadsheet apps, then import it into Excel to make it look like I prefer XLS and to print, and even run two DOS based programs for the business). You can insult me, the GOP, even Sarah Palin, but don't pick on my Yahoo.

Overheal

Friend, have you heard of gmail, or google docs? The times man. The times :pac:

rovert

I thought he was the type to have a RSS feed alerting him when America was destroyed.

Amerika

rovert wrote: »

I thought he was the type to have a RSS feed alerting him when America was destroyed.

Na, that's what I got you guys for.

Ya'll still utilize usenet, don't you?


And for your viewing pleasure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yghFBt-fXmw&feature=player_embedded#!

(Try and get the song out of your head after listening to it. Why do I see Obama getting a Grammy for this? Only in America!)

BluePlanet

So in the World According to AmeriKa, the proof that Obama is destroying America is the number of google hits?

Pathetic.

Is it possible that AmeriKa is aka Pocono Joe, putting on his best manners?

rickymaccullum

Why you blaming Obama. All us Presidents from History to till date did same thing with US. The biggest thing every American Ignoring.
I am asking to everybody why obama Giving millions dollars to Pakistan. At one side whole world knows Pakistan is the biggest Hub of Terrorism and at other side US giving to much Money and Indirectly helping them.




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Debt

Amerika

The voters gave the Democrats a chance to run government. Unfortunately they’ve only run it into the ground. The voters will change all that this November. But unlike the Republicans (when control of congress went over to the Democrats), the Democrats WILL take the country down along with themselves.

Huh??? you might ask.

Neither the US Senate or the House of Representatives (Congress) has adopted a budget resolution, and none of the appropriations bills have cleared any subcommittee (The first time since 1974).

Why??? You might ask.

Because it would be political suicide before the November election with their massive spending, tax hikes, and crippling legislation proposals we have yet to see.

I will quote probably one of the most poignant statements you will read all of this year:
“A lame-duck session would offer a last-gasp chance to enact some form of carbon tax, energy tax, cap-and-trade, or requirement that utilities must use politically-correct wind or solar power rather than more consumer-affordable fossil fuels. Or card-check measures. Or the Employee Non-Discrimination Act. Or any of a multitude of provisions that now cannot pass on their own but could be stuffed into a massive last-gasp hard-to-stop appropriations omnibus.”

And lets not forget legislation to nationalize the Undocumented Democrats, or legislation to enact a VAT.

I agree with the statement: “Any major decision that they’re not willing to make before the election is one they should not be permitted to make afterwards.” But with Democrats in control of congress, it will never happen.

Then again, there is always Tar and Feathers.

http://blog.heritage.org/2010/06/10/beware-the-lame-ducks/


Please note: The above is only my opinion on what will happen to America this year by the hands of Obama and his Democrats (Which will become fact, but you will have to wait until November to see for yourself )

Denerick

I hope Obama's first move in a future socialist fascist state is to make Amerika emigrate to Cuba.

Amerika

Denerick wrote: »

I hope Obama's first move in a future socialist fascist state is to make Amerika emigrate to Cuba.

You mean South Washington?

jank

http://www.economist.com/node/16321546

A bit of realism is needed.

Manic Moran

Mort Zuckerman laid into Obama this week.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/opinion/2010/06/18/mort-zuckerman-world-sees-obama-as-incompetent-and-amateur.html.

World Sees Obama as Incompetent and Amateur
The president is well-intentioned but can't walk the walk on the world stage

Merkel seems to have given him a bit of a slap as well.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.a910dcb6b4dfcd94d6b8c5e432a9465f.571&show_article=1

Merkel signals G20 clash with Obama on finance

Obama's still on the stimulus spending thing, Merkel's saying they need to reign in the budget.

I'm on the Merkel side right now. Greece should have been some time ago.

NTM

jank

So those Nazi's are telling Obama what to do?
How will Glenn Beck respond. Dammed if he does dammed if he doesnt I guess.

And that Zuckerman peice..

We also benefit from the fact that most countries distrust the United States far less than they distrust one another, so we uniquely have the power to build coalitions. As a result, most of the world still looks to Washington for help in their region and protection against potential regional threats.

Sorry but WTF? Countries dont trust the US as far as they could throw them they only side with them when its in their own interests for trade and security. Nothing to do with trust. Someone should tell Zuckerman that the CIA are not fiction.

Amerika

Just announced… NO BUDGET FOR 2011! (Well, what do you expect with the mid-term elections coming up?) I guess the administration doesn’t want any more reasons out there for people to throw even more Democrats out of office and/or for the people to put more fiscal responsible candidates into office. Guess it’s just another case of Democrats putting politics above public interest? (Wonder how fast they can get that amnesty thing done for the millions upon millions of Undocumented Democrats here illegally?) Be afraid, be very afraid!

http://gopleader.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=191653
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/104635-dems-wont-pass-budget

Jonny7

Amerika wrote: »

Just announced… NO BUDGET FOR 2011! (Well, what do you expect with the mid-term elections coming up?) I guess the administration doesn’t want any more reasons out there for people to throw even more Democrats out of office and/or for the people to put more fiscal responsible candidates into office. Guess it’s just another case of Democrats putting politics above public interest? (Wonder how fast they can get that amnesty thing done for the millions upon millions of Undocumented Democrats here illegally?) Be afraid, be very afraid!

http://gopleader.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=191653
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/104635-dems-wont-pass-budget

There's a guy on the christian board who has been internet arguing for over a year (thousands of posts in it) that the earth was created literally according to the bible, 6000 years and all, this guy is taking on evolution, plate tectonics, red-shift, carbon dating, everything, the whole shibang, all by himself.. and he's actually doing a pretty good job.

Why?

Is it because he's..

a) right

or

b) one unshakeable determined guy with tons of free time and pages upon pages of facts and figures

I could use some other words to describe the guy but I won't

Manic Moran

So those Nazi's are telling Obama what to do?

Not just the Germans. (Nazis?!), and it's not so much telling him what to do, as much as telling him 'we'll do our own thing, thank you for your advice though'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/10429446.stm

The group of 20 leading and emerging nations had been split over the pace of budget cuts.

US President Barack Obama warned against fast and deep budget cuts, fearing damage to global growth.

But European members, including the UK, France, and Germany, have already led moves to slash record public deficits, despite opposition from the United States which is expected to run a $1.3tn deficit in 2010.

NTM

Overheal

Jonny7 wrote: »

There's a guy on the christian board who has been internet arguing for over a year (thousands of posts in it) that the earth was created literally according to the bible, 6000 years and all, this guy is taking on evolution, plate tectonics, red-shift, carbon dating, everything, the whole shibang, all by himself.. and he's actually doing a pretty good job.

Why?

Is it because he's..

a) right

or

b) one unshakeable determined guy with tons of free time and pages upon pages of facts and figures

I could use some other words to describe the guy but I won't

Ask him about agriculture.

Iwasfrozen

Jonny7 wrote: »

There's a guy on the christian board who has been internet arguing for over a year (thousands of posts in it) that the earth was created literally according to the bible, 6000 years and all, this guy is taking on evolution, plate tectonics, red-shift, carbon dating, everything, the whole shibang, all by himself.. and he's actually doing a pretty good job.

Why?

Is it because he's..

a) right

or

b) one unshakeable determined guy with tons of free time and pages upon pages of facts and figures

I could use some other words to describe the guy but I won't

Do you have a link?

PopeUrbanII

Obama is shrouded in the most dangerous kind of PC. It has made him untouchable and unstoppable. If America is to survive, it must willfully abandon PC, almost with a vengeance. Political Correctness has given Obama the power to destroy America, literally.

Denerick

PopeUrbanII wrote: »

Obama is shrouded in the most dangerous kind of PC. It has made him untouchable and unstoppable. If America is to survive, it must willfully abandon PC, almost with a vengeance. Political Correctness has given Obama the power to destroy America, literally.

Lol. Is a crusade in order?

PC is a social construct that is constantly circumvented and violated. But lets be frank, PC is a good innovation as it is not centrally enforced by any legislation, it is a social consensus, not a political one. I'm glad its not appropriate for white people to refer to black people as Ns...

rovert

PopeUrbanII wrote: »

Obama is shrouded in the most dangerous kind of PC. It has made him untouchable and unstoppable. If America is to survive, it must willfully abandon PC, almost with a vengeance. Political Correctness has given Obama the power to destroy America, literally.

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PopeUrbanII

Denerick wrote: »

Lol. Is a crusade in order?

PC is a social construct that is constantly circumvented and violated. But lets be frank, PC is a good innovation as it is not centrally enforced by any legislation, it is a social consensus, not a political one. I'm glad its not appropriate for white people to refer to black people as Ns...

Crusades? No -- Christian cultural renewal, that's all. Political Correctness is generally bad, because it's the product and enforcer of mandatory, Leftist group-thought. It directly militates against freedom of speech.