bale handler

irishh_bob

was wondering if anyone has any experience with one of those double bale lifters , not the one which costs around a grand , the one where you dont have to line both bales up together , the one where one half of the machine is hydraulically independant of the other , you simply load the 1st bale , lift it up and back in for the second one while the 1st bale is up off the ground , i understand they are considerabley more expensive but are they any good ????

bk1991

irishh_bob wrote: »

was wondering if anyone has any experience with one of those double bale lifters , not the one which costs around a grand , the one where you dont have to line both bales up together , the one where one half of the machine is hydraulically independant of the other , you simply load the 1st bale , lift it up and back in for the second one while the 1st bale is up off the ground , i understand they are considerabley more expensive but are they any good ????

i worked in a garrage in summer 08' when they were new out we sold a load of the flemming ones . they had hydralic trip and also you could lift the first bale of ground a few inches to get second bale . seen few lads with double on front and back .

bk1991

irishh_bob

bk1991 wrote: »

i worked in a garrage in summer 08' when they were new out we sold a load of the flemming ones . they had hydralic trip and also you could lift the first bale of ground a few inches to get second bale . seen few lads with double on front and back .

bk1991

can you remember how much they cost

snowman707

the fleming standard with trip is €1000 the one with hydraulic lift is about €1300 to 1400

the lad my son mows for, drops off the 2 bales to gether from the combi this enables any one with a standard double lifter to pick the 2 bales in one go without the need for the hydraulic option

cormywormy

You dont really need the hydraulic option, as you can just pick up one bale , place it beside another and then pick up the two of them. Or if you have a front-loader mounted bale grab, just put then in two's in the field so you can pick them up.

vanderbadger

i see in the journal last week cashels had new 2 twin bale lifters, one with paddles which could also stack and the other was the pipe type lifter where the pipes could move in and out..
the fleming looks the simplist though, if its 1000 for the normal one or 1200 for the one with the ram i would spend the 1200..bringing in heaps of bales is a bad enough job beside having to put 2 together in the field

snowman707

vanderbadger wrote: »

i see in the journal last week cashels had new 2 twin bale lifters, one with paddles which could also stack and the other was the pipe type lifter where the pipes could move in and out..
the fleming looks the simplist though, if its 1000 for the normal one or 1200 for the one with the ram i would spend the 1200..bringing in heaps of bales is a bad enough job beside having to put 2 together in the field

I saw the cashel ones at gurteen college, and the fleming , wasn't really interested in them but the fleming hydraulic one looks very wide,

vanderbadger

snowman707 wrote: »

I saw the cashel ones at gurteen college, and the fleming , wasn't really interested in them but the fleming hydraulic one looks very wide,

really, just from looking at pics on internet i thought it would only be wide when offsetting the first bale..still i suppose with both bales on you are probably taking nearly 9ft wide?

bk1991

if you have a ot of bales and a fair enough draw and bigish yard would you not be better useing tractor loader and 6,8or 10 bale brailer that can be loaded with the hydralic bale handler on loader .


bk1991

irishh_bob

cormywormy wrote: »

You dont really need the hydraulic option, as you can just pick up one bale , place it beside another and then pick up the two of them. Or if you have a front-loader mounted bale grab, just put then in two's in the field so you can pick them up.

yes but that requires skill and prescision , i want something thats idiot proof

bk1991

irishh_bob wrote: »

yes but that requires skill and prescision , i want something thats idiot proof

i would think with experience it is easy .


bk1991

Casinoking

irishh_bob wrote: »

yes but that requires skill and prescision , i want something thats idiot proof

To be fair anyone who can't manage a simple task like that shouldn't be driving a tractor in the first place. I've got a Nugent tipping double bale lifter, it's a handy tool. We usually leave 2 bales together off the wrapper so it's no problem picking them up. It's not a big deal to leave one beside the other with the lifter either. We always stack bales on their ends so the fact it tips is dead handy, as far as I know the new Fleming you're talking about doesn't have this feature

vanderbadger

fleming do 2 models, the tipper one the same as nugent and the offset one whihc is slightly more expensive..your man mccorry in derrylin seems to be selling the nugents at very good value in donedeal..still its a long spin up there from my place anyway

reilig

vanderbadger wrote: »

fleming do 2 models, the tipper one the same as nugent and the offset one whihc is slightly more expensive..your man mccorry in derrylin seems to be selling the nugents at very good value in donedeal..still its a long spin up there from my place anyway

I bought mine off McCorry this time last year. He gave it to me for €700 - but this was part of a deal in which I bought a trailer, fertilizer and wrap from him. I find him good to deal with and the Nugent brand that he sells is top quality stuff !!

cormywormy

irishh_bob wrote: »

yes but that requires skill and prescision , i want something thats idiot proof

No it does'nt really, If you have a field of 200 bales or so to bring in, you will soon get expert at it.

bk1991 wrote: »

i would think with experience it is easy .


bk1991

A few bales in and you will get better at it, its only picking up and dropping bales.

Tipp Man

Space permitting then wrapping at the stack has to be the way forward, much less chance of wrap damage and you can be so much rougher with the bales when bringing them in

snowman707

reilig wrote: »

I bought mine off McCorry this time last year. He gave it to me for €700 - but this was part of a deal in which I bought a trailer, fertilizer and wrap from him. I find him good to deal with and the Nugent brand that he sells is top quality stuff !!

I saw a nugent one in nenagh last week and as you say it is very well made and strong, should last a life time 700 seems to be a very good price even in a bulk deal

Tipp Man wrote: »

Space permitting then wrapping at the stack has to be the way forward, much less chance of wrap damage and you can be so much rougher with the bales when bringing them in

a bit difficult though when you are baling with a combi, balers and wrappers very scarce this area , 3 or 4 combis doing the majority of the work.

Casinoking

snowman707 wrote: »

I saw a nugent one in nenagh last week and as you say it is very well made and strong, should last a life time 700 seems to be a very good price even in a bulk deal QUOTE]

The Nugent one is fairly strong alright, although we had to weld all the hinges on ours the first year we had it. That seems to be the only weak point, although it did stack a lot of bales.

david.toomey

if you want a proper double bale handler with the hydraulic lift, go for the cashel. I've done my fair share with the fleming with the hydraulic lift. its no good. its the same as a normal double bale handler. it doesn't lift first bale straight up, it just tilts it into the middle, leaving a tight squeeze to get on the second bale. the cashel handler lifts the bale straight up, so there is no problem picking up the second bale.

Tora Bora

david.toomey wrote: »

if you want a proper double bale handler with the hydraulic lift, go for the cashel. I've done my fair share with the fleming with the hydraulic lift. its no good. its the same as a normal double bale handler. it doesn't lift first bale straight up, it just tilts it into the middle, leaving a tight squeeze to get on the second bale. the cashel handler lifts the bale straight up, so there is no problem picking up the second bale.

what size tractor do you need to manage two bales on one of those handlers. Would a lad manage with 85hp size?

david.toomey

you wouldnt want it any less. the smallest size tractor we had it on was a 6110, thats 85hp and it was fine. you would only feel it if they were really wet bales which would weigh an awful lot more.