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The Pub trade?

  • 04-06-2010 3:27pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭


    Saw these signs on buses, looks like a Facebook update.


    "Graham became a fan of belly button fluff", then it says under it - You need to get out more. Advertising Dublin pubs as the "original social network".


    Well here's my two cents, we'd go out more if you didn't charge so much for drink. So is the pub trade in Dublin suffering due to the rec****sion, because I know the rural ones are?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    ...So is the pub trade in Dublin suffering due to the rec****sion, because I know the rural ones are?

    No, maybe not as much.
    Partly able to hold their own better because of higher density population numbers, tourism and other factors.
    Hurting? Yes, definitely, As much? Questionable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭Fizman


    I'd imagine some pubs would also be wary of setting a precedent by greatly reducing their price of drink for fear that their clientèle would change to a less endearing crowd.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    What youre saying is that if they had say, €3 pints, the place would be full of scangers?

    I see your point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    The pub trade, down the country, was in trouble long before the recession due to a number of factors.
    Firstly (and most significantly imo), a tightening up on drink driving enforcement and advertisement of such stopped alot of people from taking the chance.
    This chance couldn't be taken because everyone had a job and needed their licence to get to it.
    Also, because everyone had a job, they couldn't really be out midweek anymore.

    Secondly, the smoking ban caused alot of people to start buying from off licences and drink at home. Being made go out side to smoke while it's pissing rain or freezing cold is no fun.

    Thirdly, people go to the pub for craic. If alot of people aren't going anymore, what's the point in going to listen to the 3 alcoholics talk the same shote they've been talking for the last 5 years?

    In some ways, the recession may well be good for pubs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Advertising Dublin pubs as the "original social network".

    Paddy the alcohol likes this.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭reprazant


    Fizman wrote: »
    I'd imagine some pubs would also be wary of setting a precedent by greatly reducing their price of drink for fear that their clientèle would change to a less endearing crowd.

    Diceys midweek begs to differ.

    Mad mix of people, mainly office workers, rammed into the place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055930236

    Can we link these, Yet remove the AH sarcasm and have a serious discussion?

    "No offence to AH."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭GAAman


    What youre saying is that if they had say, €3 pints, the place would be full of scangers?

    I see your point.

    There is a place here in derry (i wont name names) but they offer the same drink for up to 50p cheaper then most pubs here and even having a pint of random beer for a quid. Scumbag fest does not even begin to describe it, anytime i have been there it has not been by choice (someone's birthday etc)

    Maybe paying the extra bit is a blessing in disguise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭Indubitable


    Recyclingbin speaks the truth!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭delop


    The publicans are the biggest drug dealers in Ireland, amazes me that they are allowed advertise at all ....

    And Yes alcohol is a drug ....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭Fizman


    What youre saying is that if they had say, €3 pints, the place would be full of scangers?

    I see your point.

    It has been known to happen in the past.
    reprazant wrote: »
    Diceys midweek begs to differ.

    Mad mix of people, mainly office workers, rammed into the place.

    This is very true. There's always an exception to the rule mind. Whatever their secret is they should keep it bottled up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭Fizman


    delop wrote: »
    The publicans are the biggest drug dealers in Ireland, amazes me that they are allowed advertise at all ....

    Generalisation poster generalises.


    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    delop wrote: »
    The publicans are the biggest drug dealers in Ireland, amazes me that they are allowed advertise at all ....

    And Yes alcohol is a drug ....

    but its a legalised and socially accecpt and totally yummy drug!

    Somebody beer me, its the weekend! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    I see what people are saying about the scumbag thing. Maybe some pub should do what wetherspoons in England does. They have pints for £1.50.

    They don't show sports. Promote food as much as drink and have strict bouncers at the doors.
    My local one's always packed, with a pretty mixed group of people, from all walks of life.
    Never really see much trouble in any of the ones I go to. Seems to work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Somewhere along the line we were convinced that sitting in a dank dark room drinking alcohol was the best life had to offer us. As Irish society evolves somewhat many are realising this is not the case.

    Fúck the publicans..... imho.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    bonerm wrote: »
    Somewhere along the line we were convinced that sitting in a dank dark room drinking alcohol was the best life had to offer us. As Irish society evolves somewhat many are realising this is not the case.
    Yes, we've moved to sitting in our houses alone on our computers 'liking' stuff, taking a break for the odd fap...

    The pub is great the odd time with friends. I meet up with friends every few weeks or so for a few pints in the pub and we have the caic and catch up. Don't understand people who do it weekly or daily even. There are far better ways to keep in touch with friends and have the craic, like through sports and other interests.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    K4t wrote: »
    Yes, we've moved to sitting in our houses alone on our computers 'liking' stuff, taking a break for the odd fap...

    You're doing that the wrong way round. You should be taking a break for the odd like.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    bonerm wrote: »
    Somewhere along the line we were convinced that sitting in a dank dark room drinking alcohol was the best life had to offer us. As Irish society evolves somewhat many are realising this is not the case..
    Yes, let's all go to café bars.
    Get over it, McDowell, nobody who counted agreed with your latte-ifacation of Ireland..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    delop wrote: »
    The publicans are the biggest drug dealers in Ireland, amazes me that they are allowed advertise at all ....

    And Yes alcohol is a drug ....

    On Joe Duffy:
    Maureen "these shops, Joe, they're sellin this stuff in glasses, alcomahol tis called Joe"

    Joe: all right Maureen, we have Assumpta on the other line . . .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭sponsoredwalk


    "Graham became a fan of belly button fluff", then it says under it - You need to get out more. Advertising Dublin pubs as the "original social network".

    Jeesh is there no lowpoint these brainwashing freaks will stay above, think about that ad for more than a second - I dare you ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    Course I thought about it. Just wanted to see what other people thought. The advertising industry really must be the lowest common denominator alright:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,288 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    http://www.getoutmore.ie

    Sweet Jesus...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    From their facebook page: Sun is shining, weather is sweet. Makes you want to... Sit inside on a high
    stool watching sport all evening tomorrow? Well, why not – enjoy the games!:rolleyes:


    Eh, no thanks, think I'll go for a jog and a kick about with my mates instead.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭Kanye


    The most suicidal thing about this campaign - which is being run by the LVA* who only represent Dublin publicans - is that it's mocking or parodying facebook.

    Anyone who uses facebook will know that simply posting something like, "pint, anyone?" will usually end up in a night in the pub with a fair crowd. This is a far better way to organise a night out than even texts, because on facebook, everyone can see who's going/not going etc.

    It would be a far better tactic to embrace facebook etc. as a means to organising nights out. I don't know why meatspace businesses continue to battle against the tide of the Internet! Do special offers for people who organised their night out on facebook (or something less prone to abuse).


    *The VFI represents other pubs mostly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,183 ✭✭✭✭Will


    They're running a facebook ad campaign also, seen it a while back. Like most people nowadays I would rather have a few mates round and hit up the off licence for more reasonably priced alcohol in the comfort of my own home and drink there. Around midnight head out and have one or two drinks in the pub/club.

    People are more aware of how much we've been ripped off over the past few years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    Echo the above poster's comments. Pre-drinking is the way to go. The only time of the year we go to the pub early and spend the night there and then on to a nightclub is Christmas, partly for the craic and ambiance of the pub and also because we get fcked at Christmas. It's both unfeasible non-sensical to be spending forty or fifty euro on a night out on pints.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭srfc19


    Blisterman wrote: »
    I see what people are saying about the scumbag thing. Maybe some pub should do what wetherspoons in England does. They have pints for £1.50.

    They don't show sports. Promote food as much as drink and have strict bouncers at the doors.
    My local one's always packed, with a pretty mixed group of people, from all walks of life.
    Never really see much trouble in any of the ones I go to. Seems to work.

    wouldn't really work in Ireland, Wetherspoons is a pub chain for a start and thats why they can sell so cheap.

    Big Sporting events are also major draws for pubs, so i don't think any Irish pub could afford to not show them.

    I personally never liked any of the one's I've been in, too impersonal or something


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭Azureus


    I love going to the pub but we've been ripped off for so long that I have no qualms bout bringing my naggin of vodky into the place, and just paying for a soda water/lime or whatever mixer. Theyre dear enough as is and the profit margins pubs still have are ridiculous!
    Yes cheap pints may attract the wrong crowd, but with decent bouncers this wouldnt happen (to the same extent as without anyway). Also if everywhere did it, it wouldnt be 'cheap pints' itd be the norm so each place would develop its usual clientele.

    Pre-drinking and places without cover charges ftw!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭Frank Spencer


    Blisterman wrote: »
    I see what people are saying about the scumbag thing. Maybe some pub should do what wetherspoons in England does. They have pints for £1.50.

    They don't show sports. Promote food as much as drink and have strict bouncers at the doors.
    My local one's always packed, with a pretty mixed group of people, from all walks of life.
    Never really see much trouble in any of the ones I go to. Seems to work.

    Didn't Wetherspoons look at entering the Irish market a few years back only to be met from massive opposition from the Vintners Federation and other groups?

    Edit: Looks like the licensing laws in Ireland didn't suit their business model.

    Article

    P.S Die Baz Ashmawy. Die!


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