Iveragh 200

lescol

Another new one for the calendar

http://www.iveragh200.com/

Still waiting for a route to be announced.

penexpers

That's a fairly steep entry fee. Any idea if it's for charity?

Also note that you need a CI license (no mention of being able to purchase a day license)

ROK ON

penexpers wrote: »

That's a fairly steep entry fee. Any idea if it's for charity?

Also note that you need a CI license (no mention of being able to purchase a day license)

@Lescol.
Can you enter without paying for evening meal?

Can you give flavour of route. I presume Waterville start means the Skelligs (Crazy climb?) plus Ballaghisheen?

lescol

I'm waiting for a reply to various questions. It would seem pretty pointless for me to buy a meal when I'm almost home. The route (in my mind) could easily take in both Ballaghs and/or Coomanaspig, it could be made to be tough. Will have to see what the organisers have to say.

ROK ON

Thanks.

Interestingly Waterville with a lap of Skelligs ober Coomanaspig onto church x roads onto the Ballaghs Molls Gap Dunloe back to Waterville is exactly 200km.
If route was similar I think it would definitely be tougher than Wicklow200 and at very least on a par with the Sean Kelly.

Fee is high but I really would like to do this. For that fee the support will need to be amazing and I think would need to include showers at finish at a least.

ROK ON

http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Iveragh-200-200KM-Route

Posted by Killorglin CC on bikely.

As I thought the route would be. If correct it will be a great route with some short challenging climbs.

lescol

Good route, I should last in the bunch until Ballaghasheen:o, hopefully, won't be on a solo run afterwards.

I hate descending Coomanaspig on the Glen side, the hairpins require too much braking especially the first left hander.

ballyharpat

Hey , I am heading back to Kerry from the States in early July. I will be staying In Fossa while I get things sorted. I want to do the Iveragh 200, but won't have a car sorted by the time I go back. Is anyone going to be travelling from Killarney or the vicinity to the ride?

Thanks in advance.

Limestone1

penexpers wrote: »

That's a fairly steep entry fee. Any idea if it's for charity?

There's a mention of the Credit Union....they need all the money they can get their hands on !

I've never been able to get down for the ROK but will be down in Sneem mid july so will be up for this if the dates suit - looks like a very challenging route.

thebouldwhacker

Just saw this thread now... the 200 looks interesting to say the least, ouch. How difficult are these climbs individually?

ROK ON

Ballaghneame is a bitch. But is short at 3km. Avg 8% but a lot at 12-16%. Descent is very fast and two semihairpins. Road from there to Glencar to Gap of Dunloe is great.
Gap of Dunloe is not actually a clim but a series of very short very steep steps. Descent to black valley is great fun but one full hairpin. A steep descent.

Climb from black valley to molls gap is 2km at 7% but gets steeper toward top.
Rolling to Sneem and then Caherdaniel.
Coomakizte is like Molls Gap but more beautiful.

Only driven up Coomanaspig. It is a wall in the mid teens of gradient. I reckon a lot of folk will have to walk that one.
That gradient after 180km will be a real test.

Great route. Price is steep. I hope these boys know how to put on a good show for that sort of dough.

papac

I am definitely up for this. Will be down that way anyway that weekend as the Munster Fleadh is on in Kenmare and my daughter is competing.

Be nice to know where the money is going though.

Only driven up Coomanaspig. It is a wall in the mid teens of gradient. I reckon a lot of folk will have to walk that one.
That gradient after 180km will be a real test.

Might need the 12-27 for that one then.:)

thebouldwhacker

ROK ON wrote: »

Ballaghneame is a bitch.....series of very short very steep steps... Coomanaspig It is a wall in the mid teens of gradient. I reckon a lot of folk will have to walk that one.
That gradient after 180km will be a real test..

Oh great... why did YOU have to reply new king of the kerry hills if you are calling it difficult then I'm fooked....
That said looks like a runner for what is shaping up to be a quiet july, looks like a killer route esp like you said with Coomanaspig at 180km ( cant spell Coomanaspig with out pig) which I shall from now on refer to as cool-mans-pig :pac:.

coastwatch

Only driven up Coomanaspig. It is a wall in the mid teens of gradient. I reckon a lot of folk will have to walk that one.
That gradient after 180km will be a real test.

I went over that about 10 years ago on a hybrid triple and remember thinking a ladder would have been a better option
I learned how to read a map contours after that day.

Greyspoke

That's a pretty stunning route okay! I can't make out from the map which direction it's going though? Which way is it going over Coomanaspig? I've been over it a few times from the Portmagee side and would have to rate that as one of the toughest climbs around. Will going through the Gap of Dunloe (while a beautiful climb) not be a bit of a pain with all the tourist pony and traps getting in the way? Also, pity they couldn't have worked the Ballaghbeama Gap into the route as well.

lescol

Waterville-Ballaghasheen-Gap of Dunloe-Sneem-Waterville-Port Magee-Valentia-Port Magee-Coomanaspig-Ballinskelligs-Waterville

ROK ON

Greyspoke wrote: »

That's a pretty stunning route okay! I can't make out from the map which direction it's going though? Which way is it going over Coomanaspig? I've been over it a few times from the Portmagee side and would have to rate that as one of the toughest climbs around. Will going through the Gap of Dunloe (while a beautiful climb) not be a bit of a pain with all the tourist pony and traps getting in the way? Also, pity they couldn't have worked the Ballaghbeama Gap into the route as well.

Hi. Wouldn't worry about gap of dunloe in that we will be climbing against tourist traffic if you know what I mean and then descending into the relative quiet of the Black valley. It is dangerous IMO to have a large group of cyclist desend from the gap to Beaufort due to horses etc.

Ballaghbeama. Yep it should be on the route imo but truthfully the road on both sides is very very poor. The road from Ballaghisheen to Glencar to the gap is very good.
There wil need to be some very good marshalling on the climb out of Black Valley to MollsGap. Steep narrow and windy climb. With a gang of cyclists climbing the 2km there will simply be no room for car traffic to descend.

lescol

http://www.iveragh200.com/ site updated with routes and reduced entry fee (€35 without meal).

rash

How would the 130Km route compare with doing the ROK with regards overall effort and fitness.
Have been up the Gap of Dunloe and the climb up to Molls Gap, and can manage them Ok on a 55KM spin.

lescol

the Ballaghasheen climb is harder than any climb on the Ring of Kerry, you know the Gap, the rest is fine. Are you doing the ROK? The spin would definitely help with the preparation.

rash

lescol wrote: »

the Ballaghasheen climb is harder than any climb on the Ring of Kerry, you know the Gap, the rest is fine. Are you doing the ROK? The spin would definitely help with the preparation.

Would like to do the ROK but don't think I have enough miles/long spins done. Did 77K at the weekend (Through Gap and Molls) and legs felt it.

Hope to go for 100KM tomorrow without climbs and if I feel ok will prob do ROK

lescol

Good luck, you'd be surprised at how little training some of the ROK cyclists do! If you've done 77km you would manage the ROK. If not then see you there next year.

manwithaplan

I will be in Kerry when this is on. I would love to give the 130k a lash but we will be moving from my mother and father in laws' in Tarbert to a rented house in Dún Chaoin that day. I am also unsure as to whether I am going to be able to bring the bike.

Bainigí taitneamh as agus beidh mé ag smaoineamh orthu agus mé ar mo shaimhín só in iarthar Chiarraí!

neris

Sounds like a tough one with nice views. One to stick on the to do list for the future

thebouldwhacker

Who is up for this cycle?
Can anyone guesstimate how long will the 200km route would take at a slow but steady pace.
I'm to be in Ventry sat evening so thinking of doing the cycle and then cycle over. This would be 100% weather dependant. My legs will hate me but I reckon it would be a good day of cycling as I dont get to Kerry as much as I used so I want to make the most of it.

ROK ON

@Bould. I am in for this.
Reasonable time - I am hoping 9hrs, but I grind to a stop on some of the climbs.
C u there?

lescol

@ ROK ON
Sign on from 7.30, what time are you thinking of heading out?

ROK ON

lescol wrote: »

@ ROK ON
Sign on from 7.30, what time are you thinking of heading out?

Lescol. I am already registered so I will aim to drive from Kenmare at 7 with the optimistic hope of getting on the bike at 830am.
Would be good to hook up, what time you starting at?

Get feeling it will be a small field. Hopefully I won't be the last to get over the climbs.

lescol

received an e-mail from Eoin from the Iveragh 200 last night, he thought 50-70 cyclists with an eightish start.

ROK ON

Ok. Leave home at 630 then.
C u there.

rash

any feedback from the event. will it be one to mark down for next year?

ROK ON

Feedback.

I did the 130 with a nice bloke from Sportif Waterford. Wanted to do 200, but kid induced complete lack of sleep the prior night prevented this.

Observations.
1 great route
2 good feedstop after 70k (sambos, water, coke, cake, biscuits) loads if you wanted it.
3 very poorly supported. Only 20plus riders maybe. Killorglin is a big club, they should have supported their win event. Felt sorry for organisers in this regard.
4 great shower at end. That's good.
5 I didn't see a foodstop at finish?
6 35 euro is way too much.
7 I love the route. Tough challenging scenery on some very good roads.
8 Waterville is very far away for most people. Next year I would strongly advise that the route is run in reverse starting from Killorglin. Makes it easier to get to thus maybe ensuring a better turnout.
Maybe Killorglin Glencar Ballaghisheen Skelligs Waterville Ballaghisheen Ballaghbeama Killorglin. This would cover most of the ground that organisers want but make the start easier to get to.

Next year try 15euro as a fee.

I enjoyed my day and as luck would haveit the rain started as we rolled back into Waterville.

rash

Would agree re distance to Waterville, was thinking of doing the 130K, but the drive put me off. (had a few pints planned for Friday that I didn't want to miss!)

I was also a bit worried about the staggered start in case I was stuck in a group that was too fast. Probably better to have a single start time as better chance of finding a group to suit my speed ??

ROK ON wrote: »

Feedback.

I did the 130 with a nice bloke from Sportif Waterford. Wanted to do 200, but kid induced complete lack of sleep the prior night prevented this.

Observations.
1 great route
2 good feedstop after 70k (sambos, water, coke, cake, biscuits) loads if you wanted it.
3 very poorly supported. Only 20plus riders maybe. Killorglin is a big club, they should have supported their win event. Felt sorry for organisers in this regard.
4 great shower at end. That's good.
5 I didn't see a foodstop at finish?
6 35 euro is way too much.
7 I love the route. Tough challenging scenery on some very good roads.
8 Waterville is very far away for most people. Next year I would strongly advise that the route is run in reverse starting from Killorglin. Makes it easier to get to thus maybe ensuring a better turnout.
Maybe Killorglin Glencar Ballaghisheen Skelligs Waterville Ballaghisheen Ballaghbeama Killorglin. This would cover most of the ground that organisers want but make the start easier to get to.

Next year try 15euro as a fee.

I enjoyed my day and as luck would haveit the rain started as we rolled back into Waterville.

downwiththatsor

ROK ON wrote: »

Feedback.

I did the 130 with a nice bloke from Sportif Waterford. Wanted to do 200, but kid induced complete lack of sleep the prior night prevented this.

Observations.
1 great route
2 good feedstop after 70k (sambos, water, coke, cake, biscuits) loads if you wanted it.
3 very poorly supported. Only 20plus riders maybe. Killorglin is a big club, they should have supported their win event. Felt sorry for organisers in this regard.
4 great shower at end. That's good.
5 I didn't see a foodstop at finish?
6 35 euro is way too much.
7 I love the route. Tough challenging scenery on some very good roads.
8 Waterville is very far away for most people. Next year I would strongly advise that the route is run in reverse starting from Killorglin. Makes it easier to get to thus maybe ensuring a better turnout.
Maybe Killorglin Glencar Ballaghisheen Skelligs Waterville Ballaghisheen Ballaghbeama Killorglin. This would cover most of the ground that organisers want but make the start easier to get to.

Next year try 15euro as a fee.

I enjoyed my day and as luck would haveit the rain started as we rolled back into Waterville.

+1 to the above observations especially the idea of a Killorglin start, more challenging and enjoyable than the ROK, i only did the 130k but will definitely be doing the 200 next time.
Many thanks to the Waterville club for taking me under their wing from Ballaghisheen to Sneem.
Would gladly recommend this cycle.

ROK ON

The really big pity about the low turnout was the route that people missed out on. The Ring of Kerry is a great event, but very large portions are incredibly boring.
However Glencar and Black Valleys have great cycling on near abandoned roads in terms of car traffic. They have scenery, steep climbs fast descents.
My favourite cycling down here is this route and the Sheehy Mts between Kerry and Cork.

Reduce the steep price and just change the start and there is absolutely no reason why this can't be a bigger and more successful event.

DirkVoodoo

I agree, whatever that stretch of road after the first feedstop on the ROK ON is called was incredibly boring. And the stretch with the badly surfaced road was pretty brutal too.

ROK ON

If people enjoyed this type of event there is another on in a few weeks being run in West Cork/South Kerry.
Called the Mick Dineen cycle and being run by http:/valleywheelerscc.com/mickDineenCycle2010.php

Its a newish club in West Cork. Date is Aug 1. (Bank Holiday weekend).
Anyone interested should contact the club I guess. As there is no sign on fee I would think a donation to the club would be very welcome. It seems as if they do a fair few cycles for charitable causes.
This route is absolutely stunning.
Route is Ballingeary Coom Kenmare Glengariff Kealkill Dunmanway Ballingeary. 140km.
Not sure is it actually open to the public, so worth verifying. I heard about it thru TourdeMunster. I am assuming the more the merrier.

Beasty

Several posts moved to this year's thread