analysis of Pre-ban head shop highs

connexion

Heres analysis of what was in the bath salts / plant feeders that were available from Dublin headstores before the ban.

http://www.addictionireland.ie/_fileupload/publications/Legal_Highs_Poster.pdf

molloyjazz

maybe move this thread to science or something, it wil only get closed or merged in to the madness here on AH.

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Interesting!

Didn't know there was Benzocaine in Wildcat!

molloyjazz

tbh i never thought 'the business' was that good, when i had it i actuall though it was the new nrg1 stuff, because it was not like the methadrone buzz i got months earlier from blow and m-cat, id say the ingrediant was changed in it because i had it after the uk ban.. i know the ban was't here, but i have had pure methadrone brought online and IV'd it so i know what medthadrone buzz is, its like yolks and doesnt keep you up all night.. unlike the business that i had after the uk ban.

hidinginthebush

Ugh, I can't stand scientific articles written in first person or first person plural plural

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hidinginthebush wrote: »

Ugh, I can't stand scientific articles written in first person or first person plural plural

Yep and look at the conclusion:

"We....blah blah....Mephedrone was present in just over a quarter of the samples analysed. This is of concern as media reports have linked this cathinone to several deaths."

:rolleyes: FFS ......the Scientists should be telling the media what's what not the other way around. how the fcuk do the red tops know what's in anything. They dont. The mainstream media had a hard on for Mephedrone and it turns out its only in 1/4 of the samples.

Rush to publish!?

hidinginthebush

That said though, this is a poster presentation as opposed to an published article in a reputable journal, so it hasn't gone through any sort of peer review process. This needs a lot more work before getting that far, sure only one of the sixteen references is from a scientific journal. The rest are from newspapers or drug websites.

edit: not to say I'm calling schennanigans on their results, but anything else here seems a bit wishy-washy

Bodhisopha

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/10184803.stm

starbelgrade

I'm against the ban on head shop products, partly because I believe in free choice, but mostly because I'm sick of hearing about it.

Shulgin

I doubt the tabloids who hyped about "killer meow meow killing our kids" will give this story much rag space. But then again they aren`t interested in facts.

Bodhisopha wrote: »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/10184803.stm

Teenagers' deaths 'not caused by mephedrone'

Louis Wainwright, 18, and Nicholas Smith, 19, died in March
Toxicology tests have shown that two teenagers whose deaths were linked to mephedrone had not taken the drug.
The deaths of Louis Wainwright, 18, and Nicholas Smith, 19, in March 2010 sparked concern about the synthetic stimulant, which was then legal.
The Labour government banned the so-called "legal high" in April, making it a Class B drug alongside amphetamines and cannabis.
But tests have revealed there were no traces of mephedrone in their blood.
It is thought further tests are being conducted to try to establish what, if any, substances the pair had taken.
Mephedrone - also known as Meow, Bubbles and M-CAT - is derived from cathinone, a compound found in a plant called Khat.
Humberside Police, which carried out the initial investigation into the teenagers' deaths, said in March it had "information to suggest these deaths are linked to M-CAT".
Its statement went on to say: "We would encourage anyone who may have taken the drug to attend a local hospital as a matter of urgency."
At the time, police believed the pair, both from Scunthorpe, had been drinking and had also taken methadone - a similar-sounding but completely different drug to mephedrone.
On Friday, a spokeswoman said the force could not confirm or deny the results of the toxicology tests.
She said: "The pathology report, which includes toxicology findings, is prepared on behalf of the coroner and is not yet complete.
"The findings of the report, once completed, will be forwarded to the coroner and may be discussed at any inquest and will not be disclosed without the authority of HM Coroner."
North East Lincolnshire Coroners Court has refused to comment ahead of the inquest.