New Cossie pics - In an Impreza

NewApproach

http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/cossie-impreza-sti-cs40?imageNo=0

New 400bhp Cosworth Impreza announced. £50k and due for release next month. Only 75 are being made though, which might mean picking one up in 4/5 years less of a possibility!

Some beast!

De Hipster

I like the look of it but there's an element of Focus rear. Would love to see this in WRC, but alas...

fonecrusher1

NewApproach wrote: »

£50k and due for release next

So it'l be about 100,000 euro here?:rolleyes:

djimi

Shame they have made such a balls of the shape of the new Impreza, but Id love to give one a spin nonetheless!

2 Espressi

Can't wait for the head-to-head comparo with the RS500...

TestTransmission

2 Espressi wrote: »

Can't wait for the head-to-head comparo with the RS500...

There is none,it would destroy the Ford imo

cantdecide

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

So it'l be about 100,000 euro here?:rolleyes:

Watching top gear in times of old, my rule of thumb was double the sterling price to find Berty's price. I don't know about now with the VRT the way it is.

smash

De Hipster wrote: »

I like the look of it but there's an element of Focus rear.

That's the first thing I noticed... wrecks the car!

Vertakill

TestTransmission wrote: »

There is none,it would destroy the Ford imo

Agreed.

Maybe in a straight line they'd be comparable but I imagine the Impreza would make absolute sh1t of the Focus on a track when the AWD/FWD comparisons are shown.

si_guru

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

So it'l be about 100,000 euro here?:rolleyes:

If the factory price is the same it should be €80,000..

TestTransmission

Vertakill wrote: »

Agreed.

Maybe in a straight line they'd be comparable but I imagine the Impreza would make absolute sh1t of the Focus on a track when the AWD/FWD comparisons are shown.

According to different sources, the Focus RS500 will achieve 0-100km/h in 5.6 seconds and the Impreza will do it in just 3.7 seconds :eek:, so yah,the Impreza ****s all over the Focus

ShadowHearth

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

So it'l be about 100,000 euro here?:rolleyes:

+ tax :pac:


honestly for me subaru became... focus on anabolics after that "hatchbacking"... Not a fan of this generation at all, thought 400hp sounds yummy allright, but is that a good bang for you buck?

ShadowHearth

Vertakill wrote: »

Agreed.

Maybe in a straight line they'd be comparable but I imagine the Impreza would make absolute sh1t of the Focus on a track when the AWD/FWD comparisons are shown.

how much hp is that new focus rs500 right? how much more hp they squizzed in to front :eek:

fonecrusher1

si_guru wrote: »

If the factory price is the same it should be €80,000..

Eh....but £50k is 59k euros?

http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi?Amount=50000&From=GBP&To=EUR&image.x=46&image.y=14&image=Submit

TestTransmission

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Eh....but £50k is 59k euros?

http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi?Amount=50000&From=GBP&To=EUR&image.x=46&image.y=14&image=Submit

Add in VRT

fonecrusher1

TestTransmission wrote: »

Add in VRT

Ah sh!t i forgot about the old we're going to punish you for buying a car outside of ireland but disguise it as a re-registration levy tax. My mistake.

Mini-rant: Fcukin theives.

TestTransmission

TestTransmission wrote: »

Add in VRT

They are not on the calculator but if if we compare with the GTR which has the same price tag of 50k stg. The vrt on a GTR is 36000 euro!! They would be in the same vrt bracket so vrt should be the same(ish)

Which brings me on to the next point Focus RS500 <<< Impreza cossie <<<<<<<<<<<<GTR.

Sofiztikated

I think I'm in the minority of liking the new Impreza.

And the murdered out look of black on black on black is very tidy.

AND it's Cossie. What is there not to like?

si_guru

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Ah sh!t i forgot about the old we're going to punish you for buying a car outside of ireland but disguise it as a re-registration levy tax. My mistake.

Mini-rant: Fcukin theives.

FRP minus 15%.. change euro @1.15 add 21% add 35%.. easy
Who are the "theives", revenue is your/our money...?

fonecrusher1

si_guru wrote: »

Who are the "theives", revenue is your/our money...?

Read this a few times & i still don't get it TBH.

Are you a fan of VRT?

si_guru

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Read this a few times & i still don't get it TBH.

Are you a fan of VRT?

The money collected in tax runs this country right? VRT is just a way of collecting it - nobody is stealing the money, it is spent on us.

If there was no VRT then VAT or Income tax would go up... VRT really only affects those who can afford to pay - those who choose to buy a new car. So it's the "tax the rich" system everyone claims to want.

..tax is a fact of life. You can't avoid it. Unless you can tell me how

Graham_B18C

A guy I work with had a loan of a Impreza Lichfield Type 25 two weeks ago, I never heard of it until he rang me telling me about it, will this be faster? I had a read on Lichfield Imports site and apparently it's the fastest Impreza to date

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Ah sh!t i forgot about the old we're going to punish you for buying a car outside of ireland but disguise it as a re-registration levy tax. My mistake.

It aint only if you buy abroad, it's added into the price of every new car sold here

fonecrusher1

si_guru wrote: »

The money collected in tax runs this country right? VRT is just a way of collecting it - nobody is stealing the money, it is spent on us.

Are you taking the piss? What about the disgusting price on petrol, do you support that as well?

People in this country are already taxed to death. Tax absorbed by our government is supposed to fund things like our roads, health services & employment for the nation.
Which are all in the sh!t at the moment so the only thing our tax money is running is politicians salaries.

dirtydiesel

Looks a bit like a toyota corolla beefed up.

Absurdum

Looks better than the regular Imprezas but I'd still have an FQ400 over it, based on looks anyway.

si_guru

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Are you taking the piss? What about the disgusting price on petrol, do you support that as well?

People in this country are already taxed to death. Tax absorbed by our government is supposed to fund things like our roads, health services & employment for the nation.
Which are all in the sh!t at the moment so the only thing our tax money is running is politicians salaries.

Only Luxembourg and Spain are cheaper than Ireland for Petrol in Europe I think... Tax on a personal cars in Denmark is 180%... even when 2ndhand. that is 180 not 80. Pay for 3 get one. PRSI is 11% in the UK, where you have £1500+ annual property tax and about the same again for water.

How do you propose we collect the revenue?

fonecrusher1

si_guru wrote: »

Only Luxembourg and Spain are cheaper than Ireland for Petrol in Europe I think... Tax on a personal cars in Denmark is 180%... even when 2ndhand. that is 180 not 80. Pay for 3 get one. PRSI is 11% in the UK, where you have £1500+ annual property tax and about the same again for water.

How do you propose we collect the revenue?

So what you're essentially saying is; the cost of living, taxes & our current economic status are just fine?

Where is the tax payers money being well spent in order to justify VRT?

si_guru

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

So what you're essentially saying is; the cost of living, taxes & our current economic status are just fine?

Where is the tax payers money being well spent in order to justify VRT?

I think the problem as that the revenue from income has declined very heavily.. sadly.. and outgoings have gone up.. the salaries of TDs are a drop in the ocean in reality.

I can't say I love VRT. but rather have that than 33% income tax and 50% for high earners. In the 70's I remember 99% income tax for the megarich.. guess what happens... they leave.

Also here in Ireland State pensions and JSA payments are much higher than say the UK.

Finally, a side affect is that VRT protects Ireland from cheap cars flooding the secondhand market.. I used to live in the UK... you guys don't know what depreciation is!

TestTransmission

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

So what you're essentially saying is; the cost of living, taxes & our current economic status are just fine?

Where is the tax payers money being well spent in order to justify VRT?

Thanks for ruining a thread about a ****ing awesome car

Vertakill

TestTransmission wrote: »

According to different sources, the Focus RS500 will achieve 0-100km/h in 5.6 seconds and the Impreza will do it in just 3.7 seconds :eek:, so yah,the Impreza ****s all over the Focus

Wow, the Focus is a lot slower than I thought, and the Impreza is a bit faster than I thought!

Thought the Focus would've been under 5 seconds and the Impreza around 4 seconds flat.

That's pretty impressive! Good oul' AWD launch!

fonecrusher1

si_guru wrote: »

I think the problem as that the revenue from income has declined very heavily.. sadly.. and outgoings have gone up.. the salaries of TDs are a drop in the ocean in reality.

I can't say I love VRT. but rather have that than 33% income tax and 50% for high earners. In the 70's I remember 99% income tax for the megarich.. guess what happens... they leave.

Also here in Ireland State pensions and JSA payments are much higher than say the UK.

Finally, a side affect is that VRT protects Ireland from cheap cars flooding the secondhand market.. I used to live in the UK... you guys don't know what depreciation is!

I take your points.

But the reason i loathe the Vehicle Registration Theft is because i have been interested many times in the past in buying a car up north or in the uk but was always disgusted with the associated extra taxes & red tape.
No im not well off (far from it i just like my cars), i just don't like being ripped off when i buy a car.

Example; In 2007 i was after a 2000 Subaru legacy B4 & some of the prices here were just disgusting, 13,14k. In the UK? maybe 7 or 8 grand for the same car with usually less mileage.
After getting out the calculator & factoring extra costs it was all go until i hit a brick wall in the shape of VRT. Idea Abandoned.

Eventually got one in cork with 90,000+ miles for a hefty 12,500 euro.:mad:

galwaytt

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Eventually got one in cork with 90,000+ miles for a hefty 12,500 euro.:mad:

tut tut, a Porsche'd cost you less


btw, I think the car looks like a Rover 45 with a bodykit.

I'm sure it's good. But it still looks like a Rover 45.

guil

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

I take your points.

But the reason i loathe the Vehicle Registration Theft is because i have been interested many times in the past in buying a car up north or in the uk but was always disgusted with the associated extra taxes & red tape.
No im not well off (far from it i just like my cars), i just don't like being ripped off when i buy a car.

Example; In 2007 i was after a 2000 Subaru legacy B4 & some of the prices here were just disgusting, 13,14k. In the UK? maybe 7 or 8 grand for the same car with usually less mileage.
After getting out the calculator & factoring extra costs it was all go until i hit a brick wall in the shape of VRT. Idea Abandoned.

Eventually got one in cork with 90,000+ miles for a hefty 12,500 euro.:mad:

theres already multiple threads for that, any chance ya stop spouting about it in this thread

Alanstrainor

This is not a VRT thread!!!! It's about an Impreza!

Let's get back on topic please.

peasant

Have Cosworth actually tinkered with a boxer engine before, or is this a first?

si_guru

Alanstrainor wrote: »

This is not a VRT thread!!!! It's about an Impreza!

Let's get back on topic please.

Sorry. Hijack over.

I think that car is interesting.. but it's not radical like the original Cossie.. in that for the time 210bhp was just mad in normal car.

Also back in 1986.. very few people had new cars... never mind ones that coast twenty grand stirling.. 2 x the price of a 2.0GHIA IIRc.

fonecrusher1

Think the preza looks mean. Love the dark alloys. Always liked black cars with black alloys.

si_guru

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Think the preza looks mean. Love the dark alloys. Always liked black cars with black alloys.

Are you "the Hoff"??

fonecrusher1

si_guru wrote: »

Are you "the Hoff"??

Maybe i am, maybe im not. Turbo boost!