Rose knew

JDee

Another reason why Season 6 will be ten times better on 2nd viewing as far as the Flash sideways go

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go back now and watch rose on the plane in LAX. take a look at her conversation with jack and bernard. she knew then that they were all dead in the flash sideways.

also when jack says we made it, rose smiles and says "yes, we made it."

also when bernard comes back from the bathroom rose says she missed bernard and bernard looks at her like how could you have missed me, i was just in the bathroom. it indicates rose died before bernard and its been a while since she has seen him.

not to mention, in the pilot rose was sacred of the turbulance, yet in the flash sideways she just sits through it and smiles. if rose had not idea she was dead she would not be sitting through the turbulance, unafraid and smiling.

those 3 things plus the comment you quoted seem to add up to rose knowing then and there what the flash sideways was. it also makes sense since out of everyone there, rose was the first one ready and accepting her death before she died. remember in her one flashback, she had come to terms with the cancer and that she was going to die very soon.

Its the little subtle things like this I will miss about the show

Mr Velo

Could be something in that alright!

thecommander

It just shows that when they wrote season 6 that they knew the ending of season 6. No biggie really.

Mitch Connor

which again would indicate to me that purgatory, or wahtever it was, started from the plane scene at the beginning of season 6. (i do not believe they would have to have led their 'lives' up to that point in purgatory)

Radiotower

She also says to Jack "You can let go now" - a line repeated in the season as in let go and move on..

gustavo

Another cool thing from that episode was Juliet and Sawyer's conversation as she was dying was very similar to the one they first had in the sideways timeline at the vending machine

mathie

JDee wrote: »

also when bernard comes back from the bathroom rose says she missed bernard and bernard looks at her like how could you have missed me, i was just in the bathroom. it indicates rose died before bernard and its been a while since she has seen him.

Surely it would indicate Bernard died before Rose?

TouchingVirus

It could indicate either possibility.

mathie

TouchingVirus wrote: »

It could indicate either possibility.

No it wouldn't.

Consider how Kate said to Jack in the flash-sideways "I missed you for a very long time"

And what Christian said "There is no 'now' here".

Jack didn't miss Kate as when he died he died as the plane left the island and then met up with Kate in the afterlife.

Kate would have missed him as she lived out her life after the plane left the island.

So for Rose to miss Bernard then Bernard would have died first.
And for Bernard to miss Rose then Rose would have died first.

dudeitshurley

mathie wrote: »

Surely it would indicate Bernard died before Rose?

TouchingVirus wrote: »

It could indicate either possibility.

Christian indicates time is meaningless in "this place". So they all end up there simulataneously irrespective of when they died. For Rose to miss Bernard, in the sense she was speaking as when she was alive similarly to how Kate missed Jack, it means Bernard had to have died before her.

Mitch Connor

gustavo wrote: »

Another cool thing from that episode was Juliet and Sawyer's conversation as she was dying was very similar to the one they first had in the sideways timeline at the vending machine

other way around, the conversation as she was dying was first, they were dead when they spoke at the vending machine.

fptosca

To me, everybody died on the island at one point or another and the sideflashes to the real world on season 6 is Purgatory. They all need to meet to move on.
Kate, Sawyer, Richard, Myles, Clare and the pilot, they never made it to the "real world". Surely the plane was faulty after the crash and it couldn't last long on air.
The last 3 to die are Desmond, Hurley and Ben. By remaining alive longer in the island, they understand they need to gather everyone together to move on once they are dead as well.

Radiotower

JDee wrote: »

Another reason why Season 6 will be ten times better on 2nd viewing as far as the Flash sideways go


Its the little subtle things like this I will miss about the show

Yeah, there'll be loads of stuff you'll see on second watching and go ahh - i just thought of one - in the flash sideways Ben's father needs oxegen - a little nod to Ben gassing him in the Dharma van

Livvie

fptosca wrote: »

To me, everybody died on the island at one point or another and the sideflashes to the real world on season 6 is Purgatory. They all need to meet to move on.
Kate, Sawyer, Richard, Myles, Clare and the pilot, they never made it to the "real world". Surely the plane was faulty after the crash and it couldn't last long on air.
The last 3 to die are Desmond, Hurley and Ben. By remaining alive longer in the island, they understand they need to gather everyone together to move on once they are dead as well.

I think those who got off in the plane are meant to have survived, otherwise there would have been some hint that all was not well - a quick glimpse of leaking fuel or something. But there was nothing, so I think we're meant to believe that they made it.

FredBloggs

Livvie wrote: »

I think those who got off in the plane are meant to have survived, otherwise there would have been some hint that all was not well - a quick glimpse of leaking fuel or something. But there was nothing, so I think we're meant to believe that they made it.

I agree with you. And the comment that Kate makes to Jack in the last episode that she's missed him for such a long time seems to bear this out ie she lived for years off island.