Leaving cert Irish HL 2010

greener44

Does any one have any tips on how i could improve at the Irish aural? i really need to improve at it, i would appreciate any helpful comments.

Also i think the following will come up, clare sa speir, lig sin i gcathu, fiche bhlian ag fas.Jack,nil aon ni, faoiseamh a gheobhadsa, chead drama, an toilean and maybe maigdileana,

zam

greener44 wrote: »

Does any one have any tips on how i could improve at the Irish aural? i really need to improve at it, i would appreciate any helpful comments.

Also i think the following will come up, clare sa speir, lig sin i gcathu, fiche bhlian ag fas.Jack,nil aon ni, faoiseamh a gheobhadsa, chead drama, an toilean and maybe maigdileana,

Practice as much as you can - do all of the past papers and correct with marking schemes. Never underestimate the power of practice.

dairemcq

Aural wise you just need practise do one every second day.
I agree with most of your predictions and I think that something along the lines of polaiteoirí na tíre might come up for the aiste on P1.

cweeva

howcome everyone thinks lig sin i gcathu is gonna come up? it's been up the last three years, I really hate that one. Was going to just leave it out, is that a bad idea?

frser32

cweeva wrote: »

howcome everyone thinks lig sin i gcathu is gonna come up? it's been up the last three years, I really hate that one. Was going to just leave it out, is that a bad idea?

Im with you on this!

Gael23

A useful tip I got for the aural is to just listen the firt time and not write anything, it works.

Mazda

something to be careful of this year is honours poetry the current chief examiner has shook up a section of the paper every year (repeating th stair section verbatum last year!) and the only one that remains untouched is honours poetry. so don't rule out any poems that came up last year - dá mb'fhéidir arís dar gcumann etc..

greener44

He will hardly be that much of a prick to start juggling around the poetry will he?

is there an point even doing stair na gaeilge?

tracker-man

No theres no point doing stair na gaeilge just leave it out. You can leave out the aural too its not worth much, and most people just do one comprehension to save time and effort... OF COURSE DO STAIR ITS EASY MARKS!!

greener44

How is it easy?there is a lot to cover in it? any idea's what might come up in it?

3_BOoYA_X

tracker-man wrote: »

No theres no point doing stair na gaeilge just leave it out. You can leave out the aural too its not worth much, and most people just do one comprehension to save time and effort... OF COURSE DO STAIR ITS EASY MARKS!!

Are you crazy :eek: Stair is 5%, aural is worth 17% and one comprehension is 6&... Thats 28% of your grade!

greener44

he was being sarcastic

Mazda

greener44 wrote: »

He will hardly be that much of a prick to start juggling around the poetry will he?

is there an point even doing stair na gaeilge?

Can't say for sure but I don't want to get caught out :rolleyes:
For stair I would definitely say do it. Don't concentrate on anything that came up last year - it shouldn't be repeated for a third time!

anak7

I'm new here, hello everyone

I was wondering does anybody have any tips on whats coming up for An Triail and Stair na Gaeilge?

For the essay, "An Stad na Tire" seems too predictable? Or anything to do with the recession? I was thinking of "Na Daoine Oga" perhaps? Any ideas would be much appreciated.

beckys

hey i was just wondering what i need to knoe in the following poems.
gealt
nil aon ni
bimse buan ar buairt gach lo
jack
faoiseamh a ghepbhadsa
an cearrbhach mac caba
an bhean og
clare sa speir.
all im looking for is like the way in fiche blian ag fas all you need to know is the innocence in the story and the comedy also.
im not looking for my work to be done i just need help badly

cantw84summer

greener44 wrote: »

Does any one have any tips on how i could improve at the Irish aural? i really need to improve at it, i would appreciate any helpful comments.

Also i think the following will come up, clare sa speir, lig sin i gcathu, fiche bhlian ag fas.Jack,nil aon ni, faoiseamh a gheobhadsa, chead drama, an toilean and maybe maigdileana,

Aw lovely I fair hope they come up!! Im no good at aural but people just say like 2 keep pactising .... ive never even tried 2 practice so thats why im bad I presume haha!! Best of luck with it!

MagsK93

beckys wrote: »

hey i was just wondering what i need to knoe in the following poems.
gealt
nil aon ni
bimse buan ar buairt gach lo
jack
faoiseamh a ghepbhadsa
an cearrbhach mac caba
an bhean og
clare sa speir.
all im looking for is like the way in fiche blian ag fas all you need to know is the innocence in the story and the comedy also.
im not looking for my work to be done i just need help badly

out of those id say leave out bimse buan and an bean og, for fiche bliain just go through how they show their youth throughout the story and the main scene for comedy is in the teach tabhairne. and if you want you can just say the way they show their youth is amusing then you could use one answer for both themes if you say somethings funny and explain the examiner cant say your wrong.

mcnewberson

MagsK93 wrote: »

out of those id say leave out bimse buan and an bean og, for fiche bliain just go through how they show their youth throughout the story and the main scene for comedy is in the teach tabhairne. and if you want you can just say the way they show their youth is amusing then you could use one answer for both themes if you say somethings funny and explain the examiner cant say your wrong.

Bimse is yet to come up as the compulsory question in the poetry, I think this could be the year?

greener44

would i be safe for the pro's just knowing clare sa speir,fiche bhlian ag fas and lig sin i gcathu???

Princess3

I'm dreading this exam, hopefully it won't be too bad!

PARARORY

would i be safe for the pro's just knowing clare sa speir,fiche bhlian ag fas and lig sin i gcathu???

Theres 5 short stories and 3 come up on the exam with you answering 2.

For the mocks I just did Fiche Bliain and i wrote a few lines for the other one i didnt't know and I got an A1 - my point is that pros are very little marks and you would be much better spending time on stair or something which is more than a pros answer and easier to learn!

Lig Sinn u could spend hours learning and it might be a 15 marker = same as one stair piece!

Im only doing Fiche Bliain and Clare sa speir!

Concentrare on your drama (40 marks) and honours poetry ( 35 ) and of course your Aiste

greener44

pararory thanks for your advice it makes a lot of sense,which area's of stair na gaeilge would be best to concentrate on?

johnmcdnl

am i the only person who hasn't learned anything for irish yet.....

PARARORY

For Stair,I would say to know at least;
Fiannaiocht , Bealoideas , an tamhran , gaeltachtai , canuinti , aisling polaitiul

Then maybe go over ; Mean Cumarsaide , meath na gaeilge ,

I ahvea list of about 10 or 12 il post more when i find it!

Dont bother with the poets/writers - way too many and you' just get confused with the facts n figures!

greener44

thanks for that

mcnewberson

PARARORY wrote: »

For Stair,I would say to know at least;
Fiannaiocht , Bealoideas , an tamhran , gaeltachtai , canuinti , aisling polaitiul

Then maybe go over ; Mean Cumarsaide , meath na gaeilge ,

I ahvea list of about 10 or 12 il post more when i find it!

Dont bother with the poets/writers - way too many and you' just get confused with the facts n figures!

Maybe for the poets , Just pick what didnt come up last year, A couple of points is all thats needed right?

PARARORY

Maybe for the poets , Just pick what didnt come up last year, A couple of points is all thats needed right?

For the poets you would want 4/5good solid facts for full marks.

where they were born / birth year ,
maybe one point about their work , name some poems etc
another fact
when they died


Thats sort of the pattern we were told to follow , but if since its all based around birth years , death years its so easy to mix them up if your learning more than one! So hard to predict as well but if you look at the past papers they do tend to ask about people that are on the course

e.g Aini Ni Ghlinn (gealt and bean og ), Mairead Ni G ( an triail )

Might be worth picking 3 of the authors on our course this year just as a backup cuz it is easy marks if you can remmeber the points

greener44

An Ghaeilge mar Theanga Cheilteach.Ogham.An Aisling Pholaitiúil
Meath na Gaeilge sa Naou hAois Deag.An Ghaeilge sna Meáin Chumarsáide

thats all im doing,

bubblz

my teacher KEPT going over uircheall... she's been teaching for yrs... nd is nearly always spot on with her predictions! doing an t-oilean, cead drama and oiche nollaig as wel! ...

stories.. dno was thinkin lig sin i gcathu.. ya it was up the las 3 yrs but its always really badley answered on so thats why it prob keeps coming up..!
also doing clare sa speir and done a bit of cearrbhach nd fiche blian ag fas..

way more prepared this time round then i was last yr!

garv123

did yere teachers say anythin about cathal o searsaigh been avoided becoz all the shiz in the news?

bubblz

he's not been avoided.. theres loads of his poems on the new course...:eek:

garv123

bubblz wrote: »

he's not been avoided.. theres loads of his poems on the new course...:eek:

all ours are sayin the odds of him been on this paper re very slim to none

PARARORY

did yere teachers say anythin about cathal o searsaigh been avoided becoz all the shiz in the news?

Jack and Nil Aon Ni havent come up since 2007 - and since his work is on the new course it shows they not really wrorried about it... and like its a question about his poetry that will come up - its not gonna be "give your thoughts on cathal o'searcaigh" ! If he came up , no one could actually complain or make a fuss since he is on the course!

a05bf1aa

What do people think the chances are of Fiche Blian ag Fas coming up?
For the pass poems I think Jack, Nil Aon Ni and Bimse? Doubt Faoiseamh will appear.
Very hard to know what will come up on honours poetry. Hope Maigdileana or An t-oilean cuz I have not a clue of the rest.
Suppose An Fhiannaiocht will be up on Stair na G. Maybe Ogham, Canuinti, Bealoideas and Aisling as well.

Im doing the sceal for paper 1. Does anyone know what sceal appeared on the various mock papers.

bubblz

well i hope cathal o searcaigh been avoided well in the honours poems anyway... i dont understand maigdelina... hoping an t-oilean,uircheall an chreagain or chead drama will come up nd for the stories clare sa speair,fiche blian nd cearrbhach
triail? maybe fimineacht... but that kinda ties in with easpa chriostiocht as well...
stair... ?

cli101

im just going to cover recession nd drugs and alcohol for the essay and a bit on politeoirí??im hoping to link drugs and alcahol to whatever comes up?...if recession comes up i can say how theres an increase in ppl turnin towards drugs nd alcahol bcos of money issues etc....wil i be safe??

PARARORY

im just going to cover recession nd drugs and alcohol for the essay and a bit on politeoirí??im hoping to link drugs and alcahol to whatever comes up?...if recession comes up i can say how theres an increase in ppl turnin towards drugs nd alcahol bcos of money issues etc....wil i be safe?

80 marks are for your irish and 20 for subject matter ( sticking to it , making sense etc... )

Basically the recession came up last year in the simplest form ever so its unlikely the title will be something about the recession!

If "bochtanas" comes up (hasnt as far as I know) you could easily put in all your recession stuff - as long as u make sure to link them up = siolraionn an bochtanas on difhostaiocht - poverty stems from unemployment

Then ya just go on about how the recession has led to poverty etc.
Then you could say that as a result of poverty people turn to drugs / alcohol out of depression etc...

So really you can mould the essay title to what you have learnt ( but of course you have to be smart about it like in English , reference the title etc )

BrenosBolts91

garv123 wrote: »

did yere teachers say anythin about cathal o searsaigh been avoided becoz all the shiz in the news?

If they are going to leave out somebody on the educational curriculum because of what they did seemed wrong , then I guess that means Hitler , Mussolini , Stalin , Lenin etc shouldnt be on the history course.

Keogg

cweeva wrote: »

howcome everyone thinks lig sin i gcathu is gonna come up? it's been up the last three years, I really hate that one. Was going to just leave it out, is that a bad idea?

DONT leave it out - its a really bad idea. What happened if it comes up as the 15 mark mandatory pros question?
And i didnt think it had come up for a year or two? it'll be popular to go onto the page as its obviously the most disliked and more difficult of all the stories

garv123

BrenosBolts91 wrote: »

If they are going to leave out somebody on the educational curriculum because of what they did seemed wrong , then I guess that means Hitler , Mussolini , Stalin , Lenin etc shouldnt be on the history course.

theres abit of a difference
i reckon they wil defo leave him outa the poets in stair na teanga to avoid anyone sayin anythin bad bou him

cleirigh06

**** I just realised I dont know a single thing on Stair na gaeilge!!! :O

garv123

deres no point predicting anything anymore now anyway
look at boland for english poetry.
she was 50000% to come up. the whole country were freaking out over it

zam

garv123 wrote: »

deres no point predicting anything anymore now anyway
look at boland for english poetry.
she was 50000% to come up. the whole country were freaking out over it

And with the whole Stair na G 2008 2009 debacle we know that the Irish paper setters are cheeky ones!

PARARORY

They recieved so much stick from it last year from teachers that they would jsut look stupid repeating another topic word for word!

garv123

PARARORY wrote: »

They recieved so much stick from it last year from teachers that they would jsut look stupid repeating another topic word for word!

it was ment to be marked easy in the end coz no1 had prepared for it

irish-anabel

absolutely dreading starting the study for this... wondering whether to just leave it and concentrate on other things. I'm not bad at irish but it's just ssoooooooo long!!!

garv123

irish-anabel wrote: »

absolutely dreading starting the study for this... wondering whether to just leave it and concentrate on other things. I'm not bad at irish but it's just ssoooooooo long!!!

im good at irish too but its just soo hard to study for it :mad: i went to a irish primary school so im relyin on the oral and aural bits of it.
i hate the poetry and stair and all of it :L

*giggles*

3 essays to learn this weekend, comprehensions (I've only ever done 3 in my life - 1st one in the mocks:eek:) and the aural. Monday night will be a long one in preparation for Paper 2. Is it strange that I prefer Paper 2 to Paper 1?

I doubt Lig Sinn will come up, it's been up fairly frequently. Or am I thinking of something else???

bubblz

I doubt Lig Sinn will come up, it's been up fairly frequently. Or am I thinking of something else???[/QUOTE]

apparently martin o mealaid is tipped for the q b.. .that or bean og cuz thats never been asked as the compulsary... would love if clare sa speir came up..!

poetry cead drama,an toilean or uircheall
pass poems.. not really looked over any but thinkin nil aon ni,jack nd amyb gealt?

Gael23

My teacher said Smacht na Eaglais could be an aiste title

PARARORY

My teacher said Smacht na Eaglais could be an aiste title

3 of the irish teachers in my school , many in others schools , institute and the rte 2fm teachers for the podcasts said its very unlikely.

My brother did JC and one of their essays was about World Cup/Sport...