McWilliams - only through a massive crisis that such a place change ?

SlabMurphy

Good article yet again by McWilliams. It's the last line that seals the future of our wee Gombeen state for me and the green sheep who keep electing the criminals that run it. Do people agree that we haven't hit the bottom yet and need to go to a level even worse than Greece before we can get the public to turn away from the Gombeen class and politics that has run this state since it's foundation.

" A country that makes such choices deserves to go bust because only through a massive crisis that sweeps away the status quo can such a place change. "

http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2010/05/26/forget-anglo-invest-in-childrens-futures-instead

dan_d

Not really liking his logic there. It's a bit...off.

I was in Limerick with school kids.
We are pumping billions into a bank.
School kids do badly from families with unemployment.
Unemployment has happened due to the bank.
Therefore we should pump billions into the schoolkids.

In theory I get what he's saying, but his way of saying it is fairly....crap!!

SlabMurphy

dan_d wrote: »

Not really liking his logic there. It's a bit...off.

I was in Limerick with school kids.
We are pumping billions into a bank.
School kids do badly from families with unemployment.
Unemployment has happened due to the bank.
Therefore we should pump billions into the schoolkids.

In theory I get what he's saying, but his way of saying it is fairly....crap!!

Ok, I understand your point about billions into education. But how far does this country have to fall before the green sheep start pushing for real change and real politics?

danbohan

SlabMurphy wrote: »

Good article yet again by McWilliams. It's the last line that seals the future of our wee Gombeen state for me and the green sheep who keep electing the criminals that run it. Do people agree that we haven't hit the bottom yet and need to go to a level even worse than Greece before we can get the public to turn away from the Gombeen class and politics that has run this state since it's foundation.

" A country that makes such choices deserves to go bust because only through a massive crisis that sweeps away the status quo can such a place change. "

http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2010/05/26/forget-anglo-invest-in-childrens-futures-instead

massive crisis , ? only thing would change the mindset here be another famine . people will do what they always did in''Eire'' before , emigrate quietly ,pray,moan, the drudge will remain here in their cushy public sector jobs , the gombeen politicians will be replaced by a new generation of gombeen politicians nothing shall change

SlabMurphy

danbohan wrote: »

massive crisis , ? only thing would change the mindset here be another famine . people will do what they always did in''Eire'' before , emigrate quietly ,pray,moan, the drudge will remain here in their cushy public sector jobs , the gombeen politicians will be replaced by a new generation of gombeen politicians nothing shall change

Sadly I have to agree

jimmycrackcorm

"There were many teachers in the crowd and the honesty of the discussion was revealing. The teachers wanted to teach, but there was a sense, particularly amongst the primary ones, that they are overburdened. One teacher — a young man — spoke of his despair trying to teach the 4th-class syllabus to children of varying abilities, where he could see children being left behind in front of his eyes. These children will slip back academically, becoming alienated initially from the classroom and then, ultimately, from the school."

How did we manage to have a Celtic tiger in the first place before there were special needs resources and all the other benefits that the education got used to having in recent years?

Wolfe Tone

SlabMurphy wrote: »

Ok, I understand your point about billions into education. But how far does this country have to fall before the green sheep start pushing for real change and real politics?

OK so what would you regard as real politics then? Or real change? Who says change would be for the better? And I find your description of this countries electorate as "green sheep" rather base.

FlutterinBantam

SlabMurphy wrote: »

Good article yet again by McWilliams. It's the last line that seals the future of our wee Gombeen state for me and the green sheep who keep electing the criminals that run it. Do people agree that we haven't hit the bottom yet and need to go to a level even worse than Greece before we can get the public to turn away from the Gombeen class and politics that has run this state since it's foundation.

" A country that makes such choices deserves to go bust because only through a massive crisis that sweeps away the status quo can such a place change. "

http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2010/05/26/forget-anglo-invest-in-childrens-futures-instead

Real crims were picked up in Dundalk yesterday.

You know the type, pay no taxes, take everything and never ask what they can contribute but what they are entitled to.

These wasters are dragging us down again unless we stand up to them.

Banned Account

I can't actually recall ever seeing any solid research by McWilliams - just hyperbole and rabble really.

sceptre

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