Limbo - End of the world?

jimbling

Right, this just dawned on me last night. I was talking down a friend of mine (who was going nuts because he thought the Island was purgatory), when something clicked.

The Island right, we're supposed to have faith in The Island. We are supposed to believe that the Light in that cave is the most important thing in the world. The Protectors role is to make sure that light NEVER goes out..... or... well.... it will be the end of everything as we know it.

So, basically, my understanding of this is that if the Light goes out, the Island dies.... if the Island dies, the world dies. Okay, with me so far? It's a leap, but going on references in the show, I think it's what we are supposed to believe.... or at least it's what they believe (mother / Jacob etc)


Right, on to the next part. In the opening scenes of Season 6 we see the Island under water. At the time we thought this was some alternate universe.... it turns out that it was not. Its Limbo/Purgatory or whatever you want to call it.......

So, why was the Island under water???? Why did they go out of there way to show us the Island underwater???

Well, because the Light had finally died..... The Island had died....... The World (as we know it) had died. Limbo is outside the time of the world. The world is no more.

Yes I'm probably crazy, but anyone with me??? :pac:

Marcaiocht_Tonn

That's a nice idea actually! My own one is this, and of course everyone will have different interpretations:

I had put it down to the fact that since the Losties subconsiously created their "let's meet again" limbo, they'd also sunk the island in their subconscious - hence their need to be woken up. They didn't remember the island or their deaths, as they had literally buried it under the sea of their minds. They wanted to live out their lives again where they corrected their past mistakes, formed better relationships with parents etc., and for that to happen they deliberately "forgot" (i.e. sunk) the island - without even realising it.

So I feel the island being underwater was a metaphor for the state of their minds in the pseudo-afterlife.

mailrewop

in episode 7 "Dr. Linus" when Ben is talking to his father in the flash sideways/whatever you want to call it, his father mentions that he was in the Dharma Initiative and that he and Ben were on the island so does that mean that the island was in fact destroyed in the purgatory world they created since it is shown under water.

Frankmagnet

mailrewop wrote: »

in episode 7 "Dr. Linus" when Ben is talking to his father in the flash sideways/whatever you want to call it, his father mentions that he was in the Dharma Initiative and that he and Ben were on the island so does that mean that the island was in fact destroyed in the purgatory world they created since it is shown under water.

I was listening to a Lost podcast a few weeks ago and they came up with a cool theory about Bens dad and the Island.

Maybe when Roger is talking about going to the Island he is experiencing a flash but we dont see it on screen.

If you watch it again, Ben doesnt really acknowledge the line and almost passes it off as his sick dad remembering something that never happened.

He was close to death at the time.

treefour

Remember what Desmond said to Jack as he was about to go into the cave - "This doesnt matter... Flight 815 never crashed... We can go to a place... and you are there...". I think Desmond was conscious across all the different time-lines, the island and in purgatory. He knew the inevitable outcome that everyone dies, maybe this was a result of the of the explosion and the radiation. I dont believe Desmond cared about the island at this stage but he did think it would end when he pulled the plug. Once again no one knew what exactly was going to happen when the cork was removed.

In purgatory the plane didnt crash. They never landed on the island. Why was it at the bottom of the ocean? Maybe without their intervention the MIB won somehow but I dont think this is the case. Jack said 'it was his destiny' in the real world to save it and he did. The island/Jacob had chosen them, it didnt necessarily have to be Jack, it could have been any of them but for obvious reasons the writers chose Jack.

Remember that purgatory isnt what really happened, the people are real but it is a construct of their making. What happened happened, what they remembered i.e the island and saving it. So I think the island was never at the bottom of the sea and now that I think of it, it makes sense. It was a flag to say this didnt happen but only made sense at the very end. Purgatory was simply a way for them to reunite, remember, let go and move on. In purgatory what mattered was the relationships between them. It didnt matter about the island then because there is no then, now, here etc.

I do think there is merit in the idea of those who left on the plane trying to return but maybe that's just us looking for a closure. Who knows?! Another question might be if they didnt save the island would there have even been a purgatory! Just how important was the island and the light?!

RE Ben and his Dad. Ben & his Dad remembered, this is why they were talking about the island. This is why Ben was at the church and was able to talk Locke and Hurley about events on the island. Ben just wasnt ready to move on. Jack and Co could have stayed in limbo speaking of the island but they were ready to move on.