SGU 1x18 "Subversion" **SPOILERS**

Smyth

Thought this one was pretty good. I can feel the series building to a great climax. Good to see a bit of the old SG1 humour. Even if it was only miniscule.

Kazuma

Good

I quite enjoyed it, back to a nice pace after the last episode...pity I'm entirely out of the loop of SG continuity, no idea what this weird alliance are, must read up on it.

Overheal

Good

The lucian alliance iirc are a bunch of crooks who took advantage of all the swag the goa'uld left behind when they fell apart.

http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Lucian_Alliance

amazing how fast the geeks have added in a quote from Rush. I havent even watched it on DVR yet.

sutty

Good

Great ep, really liked it. Cant wait to see how the 3 part story arc plays out and what the cliffhanger is gonna be. Was nice to Jakson and O'Neill on screen together. Hope we see more of that.

Great acting all round and I like the whole knowen SG1 aspect put into this kind of show. It adds a nice pace to it. Bring on the next two weeks I say.



Then nothing till October :eek:

Bajingo

Average

I thought it was going to be a slow episode but I liked it..can't wait to see the next episode..Rush is going to have a whopper headache when he gets back!

TheIrishGrover

Good

REALLY liked that episode. Nice setup for the last couple of eps and arc for S2

Evolute

Good

I thought it was pretty good glad to see something interesting is happening regardless of it being on Destiny or not.
Things are getting good though I can't wait for the next few episodes although its gonna be a kick in the teeth of a cliffhanger.

hightower1

Average

"I know what makes me special" lolz

PirateShampoo

Average

I enjoyed the episode, i like that the Lucian Alliance brought up the fact that they are human also and have just as much of a claim on Destiny has earth does.

Overheal

Good

They dont really. Anyway Telford is plainly brainwashed thinking that.

Great Episode. Very cool to see how SG1 has moved on from being that maverick team to In Charge of fcuking everything.

5starpool

Average

I liked this episode. I presume this is the main story for the last couple of episode as well. What I would like to know though is why this Lucien alliance are so interested in Destiny? If they know so much about it, surely they know that Rush et al have no control over it in any meaningful way.

PirateShampoo

Average

Overheal wrote: »

They dont really.

Of course they do, all humans in the milky way are descendants of the Ancients which settled on Earth. In the Lucian Alliance case they would of been descendants of slaves taken from Earth by Gou'ld.

Why should Earth have authority over all humans?

deman

Good

Excellent episode. Can't wait till next week.

BTW, has RDA got a back problem? He seemed to be walking badly.

Bajingo

Average

Overheal wrote: »

They dont really. Anyway Telford is plainly brainwashed thinking that.

Great Episode. Very cool to see how SG1 has moved on from being that maverick team to In Charge of fcuking everything.

Maybe but who replaced them? SG-2?! Pfft!

ixoy

Yep, very good episode. Initially I feared it would be like one of those poor Trust episodes that plagued the latter seasons of SG1 but this was actually a very good use of the communication stones and tied up two hanging plot lines.

I did wonder how much Young enjoyed beating up Telford-in-Rush? I mean he got to batter the two people he dislikes the most. And just how far is he willing to push this o2 supply? Because I'd believe he'd go all the way unless he was stopped.

Speaking of people stopping him - at what point will Brody and Volkner get into the main cast? They're in nearly every episode and get as much screen time as some of the credited regulars.

johnnysmack

Good

Very good episode but someone needs to punch Lt Scott. Seems like Greer is the only person that can actually follow orders.

Great to have the oldies in it too.

mawk

ixoy wrote: »

Speaking of people stopping him - at what point will Brody and Volkner get into the main cast? They're in nearly every episode and get as much screen time as some of the credited regulars.

by about season 3...

I figure itl be like bsg, the background characters are fixed features which gives the small population more believability, then depending on story requirements, some of those characters get fleshed out while some of them just make for good continuity.

like felix in bsg, he had almost nothing to do in the early days of bsg but by season 4 he was throwing plenty of dramatic weight around, while racetrack was always there and got plenty of screentime but never became pivotal at all to my memory. (not counting her last scene)

token56

Good

Definitely a great episode, really enjoyed seeing a bit of the old SG-1 humour in there too.

helimachoptor

Bad

Average, i was expecting a LOT better, all too predictable

FreudianSlippers

Average

Thought it was good... glad to see something finally coming together story wise.

noodler

Overheal wrote: »

amazing how fast the geeks have added in a quote from Rush. I havent even watched it on DVR yet.

Ironic!

Personally, I think that was the best episode yet. It had everything, the way the fight broke out, Grear came running and to break it up only to be told to get out was well done - "now where were we?".

Everybody wants a piece of sweet Destiny ass.

GarethWA

Average

Still a little bit annoyed they haven't made a mention of where the ship is right now, and how long it took to cross the galaxy void...
Would've thought they would save that as a big thing, first planet in the new galaxy and all that... but they spoiled it at the end of 'pain'

Solid episode! Thought they could have finished it with more suspense, but overall a good improvement!

Conor108

Average

Looks good!

There are also a ton of scenes from Incursion part 1 & 2 I found when I went to get that. Apparently already aired in Ukraine??:eek:

RolandIRL

Good

good episode imo. was a bit lost on the Lucian alliance stuff (Universe is the first stargate series i'm watching) but otherwise it was a class episode.

pity that there was no sign of Lt Boobs :P

Sherifu

Good

Finally someone competent enough to add a poll this week :pac:

Great episode really. Good to finally have a bad guy to hate. Those pesky Lucian alliance are back and the traitor Telford :mad:

Daniel & Jack stole the scenes they were in. Superb stuff.

Hope they set this arc up properly for season 2.

5/5

GSPfan

Good

Loved this episode. The set up for the finale is great now. Is anyone else thinking that they'll connect to Destiny via this new planet and Rush/Telford will go through. Possibly some others along with him. ??

Can't wait to see what's gonna happen now.

GarethWA

Average

Conor108 wrote: »

There are also a ton of scenes from Incursion part 1 & 2 I found when I went to get that. Apparently already aired in Ukraine??:eek:

Yeah, but only in Russian, or so i've been told. Really jumped the gun there!
Trying to stay clear of those vids!:rolleyes:

Conor108

Average

Oh btw I hear SGU is on a break now? Probably won't get to see the last 2 until after the leaving so

RolandIRL

Good

Episode 19 is on june 4th and episode 20 (the finale) is on june 11th according to wikipedia

crap. for some reason, i thought next week was the finale, and i could get my brother to dl it. now i'll have to wait ages to download it cos i've sh*t broadband at home (usually download it in college)

MAD :mad:

GarethWA

Average

Conor108 wrote: »

Oh btw I hear SGU is on a break now? Probably won't get to see the last 2 until after the leaving so

There's only 1 week off, then Incursion Pt1 on June 4th, and Pt2 on June 11th:D

-Trek-

Average

Any episode with rhona mitra in it is a good episode :):)

Peace

Can someone tell me why they even want to get onto the destiny? At this stage they konw how far away it is and know there isn't anyway back from it.

RolandIRL

Good

ancient technology. chance to explore the universe. Lt. James's boobs

where do i sign?

Conor108

Average

Peace wrote: »

At this stage they konw how far away it is and know there isn't anyway back from it.

I imagine there'll be a bit of a fight and then Lucian Alliance will be integrated into the Icarus base crew a lá the Maquis in ST Voyager :rolleyes:

Pepe LeFrits

Average

whiteman19 wrote: »

ancient technology. chance to explore the universe. Lt. James's boobs

where do i sign?

FYP

Roomic Cube

Good

Enjoyed that now I have to say, looked like Greer was laughing when he was kicking Telford's head in!

Enjoyed the bit of Jacks humour too!

brownacid

PirateShampoo wrote: »

I enjoyed the episode, i like that the Lucian Alliance brought up the fact that they are human also and have just as much of a claim on Destiny has earth does.

When you consider the multiple different ways that the countless other human inhabited worlds developed, and from what we are shown in SG1, Earth is the most advanced (technologically and socially) of humans. The only other Human races that I can remember were more advanced than Earth were the tolans and the Aschen. The tolans we are led to believe were destroyed and teh aschen, due to the altered timeline lay undiscovered.

The lucian alliance are defined when we first meet them as a band of mercenaries who grouped together to take advantage of the power vacuum left in the absence of the Goauld. The guy in this episode who threatens to kill rush is the same as the bounty hunter in the episode of SG1 "Bounty".

Now in the SG1 episode "The fifth race" Thor tells us that the the Asgard have been watching earth (not every human race) for a long time and that buy figuring out how to contact the Asgard they have taken the first steps to becoming the fifth race. This ideal is then finalised in the finale "Unending" where Thor tells us that the humans of earth are the fifth race. He specifically specifies that that is the humans of earth and not of the whole galaxy. the Asgard then entrust all historical records of their race aswell as there technology so as to act as protectors of the galaxy.

It is for this reason that the Lucan Alliance do not hold as valid a claim to destiny or any ancient tech as Earth do. Especially as the destiny mission for earth is driven by a quest for knowledge and not by a thirst for valuable commodities and technological gains as is portrayed to us by the writers concerning the Lucian Alliance.

helimachoptor

Bad

Super post there brown acid, also thanks for the mention of the bounty hunter guy, i couldn't remember what episode he was in!

brownacid

He is in another one aswell but not as the bounty hunter I think.

PirateShampoo

Average

brownacid wrote: »

When you consider the multiple different ways that the countless other human inhabited worlds developed, and from what we are shown in SG1, Earth is the most advanced (technologically and socially) of humans. The only other Human races that I can remember were more advanced than Earth were the tolans and the Aschen. The tolans we are led to believe were destroyed and teh aschen, due to the altered timeline lay undiscovered.

The lucian alliance are defined when we first meet them as a band of mercenaries who grouped together to take advantage of the power vacuum left in the absence of the Goauld. The guy in this episode who threatens to kill rush is the same as the bounty hunter in the episode of SG1 "Bounty".

Now in the SG1 episode "The fifth race" Thor tells us that the the Asgard have been watching earth (not every human race) for a long time and that buy figuring out how to contact the Asgard they have taken the first steps to becoming the fifth race. This ideal is then finalised in the finale "Unending" where Thor tells us that the humans of earth are the fifth race. He specifically specifies that that is the humans of earth and not of the whole galaxy. the Asgard then entrust all historical records of their race aswell as there technology so as to act as protectors of the galaxy.

It is for this reason that the Lucan Alliance do not hold as valid a claim to destiny or any ancient tech as Earth do. Especially as the destiny mission for earth is driven by a quest for knowledge and not by a thirst for valuable commodities and technological gains as is portrayed to us by the writers concerning the Lucian Alliance.

The relationship between the Asgard and Earth is completely different to the 1 with the Ancients. Humans all over the galaxy would of descended from them and some would have the Ancient Gene. Why should Earth have claim over all Ancient relics?

PirateShampoo

Average

helimachoptor wrote: »

Super post there brown acid, also thanks for the mention of the bounty hunter guy, i couldn't remember what episode he was in!

He is a few different episodes.

http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Ruslan_Chernovshev

http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Odai_Ventrell

http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Kiryk

http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Varro

Overheal

Good

What about that other bounty hunter from SG1? with the cool visor? the cloaked ship? the grenades?

Conor108

Average

New-ish Kino episodes to fill the break....

PirateShampoo

Average

Overheal wrote: »

What about that other bounty hunter from SG1? with the cool visor? the cloaked ship? the grenades?

Found him, Aris Boch. He only did the 1 episode and niether him or his race where mentioned again.

http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Aris_Boch

Always thought he looked like Don Johnson

Tar.Aldarion

Good

Rhona Mitra!!!!!