Smoke bombs

baneblade1435

Good day gentlemen,

A quick question today,

What are the laws/rules about smoke bombs, home-made or otherwise?

Thanks

SparkyDNut

I believe they fall under the pyro side of things... So they'd be not legal in most sites...

gerrowadat

Anything that uses an incendiary or pyrotechnic charge isn't legal.

Flecktarn

gerrowadat wrote: »

Anything that uses an incendiary or pyrotechnic charge isn't legal.

Does that not mean something like fireworks are legal so?

Rhinocharge

Most pyrotechnic devices use black powder or a mixture of the following controlled substances.

a. Ammonium picrate;
b. Black powder;
c. Hexanitrodiphenylamine;
d. Difluoroamine;
e. Nitrostarch;
f. Potassium nitrate;
g. Tetranitronaphthalene;
h. Trinitroanisol;
i. Trinitronaphthalene;
j. Trinitroxylene;
k. N-pyrrolidinone; 1-methyl-2-pyrrolidinone;
l. Dioctylmaleate;
m. Ethylhexylacrylate;
n. Triethylaluminium (TEA), trimethylaluminium (TMA), and otlher
pyrophoric metal alkyls and aryls of lithium, sodium, magnesium, zinc or boron;
o. Nitrocelluose;
p. Nitroglycerin (or glyceroltrinitrate, trinitroglycerine) (NG);
q. 2,4,6-trinitrotoluene (TNT);
r. Ethylenediaminedinitrate (EDDN);
s. Pentaerythritoltetranitrate (PETN);
t. Lead azide, normal and basic lead styphnate, and primary explosives or priming compositions containing azides or azide complexes;
u. Triethyleneglycoldinitrate (TEGDN);
v. 2,4,6-trinitroresorcinol (styphnic acid);
w. Diethyldiphenyl urea; dimethylidiphenyl urea; methylethyldiphenyl urea [Centralites];
x. N,N-diphenylurea (unsymmetrical diphenylurea);
y. Methyl-N,N-diphenylurea (methyl unsymmetrical diphenylurea);
z. Ethyl-N,N-diphenylurea (ethyl unsymmetrical diphenylurea);
aa. 2-Nitrodiphenylamine (2-NDPA);
bb. 4-Nitrodiphenylamine (4-NDPA);
cc. 2,2-dinitropropanol;
dd. Nitroguanidine (see 1C011.d. in Annex 1 to Council Regulation (EC) No 1334/2000, as amended).

These all require an import license & a genuine reason to have them.
Fireworks are illegal to use or possess in the RoI unless you have a Pyrotechnic licence.

Flecktarn

Right so I know of an Irish site where you can by smoke grenades using a fuse, are these not illegal without a license?

baneblade1435

I will check my recipies for any of those products, thank you! They don't explode, more just smoulder while giving off large amounts of totally harmless smoke, the only thing that would be on fire is the match used to start it off, though i'd say that would probably count as incendary!!

Puding

Flecktarn wrote: »

Right so I know of an Irish site where you can by smoke grenades using a fuse, are these not illegal without a license?

as rhino said if they do not have a phyro license there being used illegally as far as im aware paul at htra is the only site owner licenses to allow the use of phyros on site

Flecktarn

Puding wrote: »

as rhino said if they do not have a phyro license there being used illegally as far as im aware paul at htra is the only site owner licenses to allow the use of phyros on site

Sorry Pud I meant a website, so surely you'd need a license to purchase them?

Puding

is the website based in the republic of ireland?

there are a lot of sites in the uk that sell phyros on there website but there ment for the domestic crowd

but yes if the website is based in the republic they would need a licence and they would only be able to to sell to others with a license as far as im aware

Flecktarn

Puding wrote: »

is the website based in the republic of ireland?

there are a lot of sites in the uk that sell phyros on there website but there ment for the domestic crowd

but yes if the website is based in the republic they would need a licence and they would only be able to to sell to others with a license as far as im aware

Yeah there in the RoI, was thinking that alright, cheers!