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Getting older and out of touch or is it just everyone else?

  • 15-05-2010 2:17am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭


    Ok Im 30 years old, not old old but for the last few years whenever i flick through the music channels on Sky it seems to take longer and longer before i find a decent song.

    I know its a natural thing as you get older you lose touch with the youth culture. Don't get me wrong i can listen to all genres of music and appreciate good tunes.

    But it seems to me most of the music nowadays on mtv etc just sounds like crap European Techno Pop music with some bird warbling over the beat.

    R n' B too has been raped out of all recognition from what it was in the 90's. It just all sounds the same with everyone trying to have a Timbaland beat over every song.

    I know music evolves and the songs in the 90's were different than songs in the 80's etc., etc. But i love tunes from 60's 70's 80' 90's etc

    But its rarer and rarer to hear classic tunes that will stand the test of time these days. it all sound like the same generic shiite to me.

    Maybe i should stick to my i pod, but i remember the days when i could leave MTV on when i got in at this hour of the weekend and always find a good song on godammit.

    Yeah i know every generation says the same thing about the generation before them but a lot of it sounds like cack to me

    And when did they crack down on "racism" ffs! :mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    khmk wrote: »

    And when did they crack down on "racism" ffs! :mad:

    That was me, so sue me.:mad::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭MmmmmCheese


    You're not getting out of touch. Music these days is just sh1te. I'm a youngin' of only 19 and I agree with you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Nemanja91


    You're not getting out of touch. Music these days is just sh1te. I'm a youngin' of only 19 and I agree with you.

    Exact same as me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭khmk


    That was me, so sue me.:mad::pac:

    Damn you Mod!


    Why can't you be more like the Rockers! :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭Captain Darling


    khmk wrote: »
    Ok Im 30 years old, not old old but for the last few years whenever i flick through the music channels on Sky it seems to take longer and longer before i find a decent song.

    I know its a natural thing as you get older you lose touch with the youth culture. Don't get me wrong i can listen to all genres of music and appreciate good tunes.

    But it seems to me most of the music nowadays on mtv etc just sounds like crap European Techno Pop music with some bird warbling over the beat.

    R n' B too has been raped out of all recognition from what it was in the 90's. It just all sounds the same with everyone trying to have a Timbaland beat over every song.

    I know music evolves and the songs in the 90's were different than songs in the 80's etc., etc. But i love tunes from 60's 70's 80' 90's etc

    But its rarer and rarer to hear classic tunes that will stand the test of time these days. it all sound like the same generic shiite to me.

    Maybe i should stick to my i pod, but i remember the days when i could leave MTV on when i got in at this hour of the weekend and always find a good song on godammit.

    Yeah i know every generation says the same thing about the generation before them but a lot of it sounds like cack to me

    And when did they crack down on "racism" ffs! :mad:

    Oil of Ulay, sense of humour and sudden realisation that yes your tits will drop, your balls will sag and no one has a fcuking clue who the fcuking Sultans of Ping are.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭khmk


    You're not getting out of touch. Music these days is just sh1te. I'm a youngin' of only 19 and I agree with you.


    Thank you my friend.

    I mean whatever happened to classic music like

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpHLEm9-0bg

    What was wrong with Scatman John?


    And this soother from The Rednex?


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEMVwZRJ-UQ

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    When radio plays of "classic hits" stopped being just songs from the 60's & 70's, and began to include songs from the 80's, that's when I realised I was getting old.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 353 ✭✭molloyjazz


    You're not getting out of touch. Music these days is just sh1te. I'm a youngin' of only 19 and I agree with you.


    he speaks the truth.. its all blakshyte on mtv these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭khmk


    When radio plays of "classic hits" stopped being just songs from the 60's & 70's, and began to include songs from the 80's, that's when I realised I was getting old.


    It is indeed a sad day when listening to "Larrys Golden Hour " on 2fm is the best hour on the radio. :(


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    As a 19 year old, I wish I was brought up in the 70s/80s in terms of music. Cannot stand modern mainstream music.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Music tends to go through bad patches in some decades, for some reason - the 60's & 70's were amazing times for music, as were the 90's, but the 80's & noughties really were quite awful. And funnily enough, a lot of the stuff from the noughties was very 80's influenced.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Music tends to go through bad patches in some decades, for some reason - the 60's & 70's were amazing times for music, as were the 90's, but the 80's & noughties really were quite awful. And funnily enough, a lot of the stuff from the noughties was very 80's influenced.
    Depends what you're into, a lot of the best metal is from the 80s

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Popular music is dire at the moment and even Alternative Music has been on the slide!

    there are no decent pop acts coming out. There are very few decent bands coming out either. I actually can't remember the last time i heard a cracking pop song!

    Look at the list of this year's UK No.1 singles. All sh1te!

    Edit: Just looked at the UK Top 40. 39 of them are rubbish. Only good tune is She Said by Plan B


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    Music tends to go through bad patches in some decades, for some reason - the 60's & 70's were amazing times for music, as were the 90's, but the 80's....really were quite awful. And funnily enough, a lot of the stuff from the noughties was very 80's influenced.

    False.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭khmk


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Popular music is dire at the moment and even Alternative Music has been on the slide!

    there are no decent pop acts coming out. There are very few decent bands coming out either. I actually can't remember the last time i heard a cracking pop song!

    Look at the list of this year's UK No.1 singles. All sh1te!

    Edit: Just looked at the UK Top 40. 39 of them are rubbish. Only good tune is She Said by Plan B


    This is the only decent tune I've heard lately in charts that i liked too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    This list is not exhaustive, but here are some of the more popular great artists that I can think of (off the top of my head) thru the decades;

    1960s;

    Elvis Presley
    The Kinks
    The Supremes
    Bob Dylan
    Frank Sinatra
    The Rolling Stones
    The Byrds
    The Beatles
    Johnny Cash
    Tim Buckley
    The Stooges
    Miles Davis
    Nina Simone

    1970s;

    David Bowie
    Neil Young
    Ramones
    Simon & Garfunkel
    James Brown
    Blondie
    The Bee Gees
    Stevie Wonder
    Sex Pistols
    Pink Flyod
    Queen
    ABBA
    Bob Marley
    Led Zeppelin
    Miles Davis
    The Clash
    Elton John

    1980s;

    Madonna
    Bon Jovi
    Michael Jackson
    Duran Duran
    Guns n' Roses
    Eurythmics
    Def Leppard
    Metallica
    Aerosmith
    Van Halen

    1990s

    Stone Roses
    The Smiths
    The Cure
    My Bloody Valentine
    The Pixies
    Beck
    Blur
    Oasis
    Pearl Jam
    Depeche Mode
    Pet Shop Boys
    Prince


    Personally, I loved the 90s as they were my formative years - the 80s were dominated by over produced pop & spandex heavy metal - and the noughties were an abyss for music.

    If I could choose one decade, I'd have gone for 1965-1975 - rock & pop at it's best, funk & mowtown & the beginnings of punk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    The 80s gave us Cock-Rock....... second worst decade for music in general (apart from Pixies, GnR and a couple of others)

    But the Noughties was a disaster. Although there's A LOT of bands i love who were formed in that decade, nodoy is ever gonna look back and think it was a good decade for music.

    Look at this list of Top Selling Albums of the 21st Century....... i'm actually embarrassed and i have no idea why. Eminem's album, i will admit, is a great album and will probably be on a lot of "Greatest Hip-Hop" lists. But the rest?

    Edit: I also love Parachutes by Coldplay, no matter how "uncool" that might make me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 522 ✭✭✭KevinVonSpiel


    Music is the mephedrone of the masses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Music is the mephedrone of the masses.

    It used to be religion that was the drug of the masses. What happened?!

    Oh yeah, it was the music of the noughties. The decade where the music industry killed itself off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Sitec wrote: »
    Guessing your 22-27 then.:D

    I'm 26. Most of the first bands i got intto are from the 90s. (Radiohead, Manics, Oasis ,Blur, Pulp etc)

    Then i got into Beatles and Stones etc (60s). A lot of Motown stuff (60s). Then Queen, Marley, The Clash (70s).

    But nothing from the 80s. Absolutely brutal!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    MrStuffins wrote: »

    Edit: I also love Parachutes by Coldplay, no matter how "uncool" that might make me

    So uncool that I just removed my "thanks". Not something that I often do or take lightly.

    (Just jocking - the first song on that album is an absolute cracker)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    So uncool that I just removed my "thanks". Not something that I often do or take lightly.

    (Just jocking - the first song on that album is an absolute cracker)

    I tell ya, when i forst got this album i loved it. And i still do.

    Problem is, everything after that has just been a regression. And they become more and more popular.

    I understand why people think Coldplay are rubbish and uncool and i agree they're pretty brutal........... but that debut album is superb! I think if they wrote those songs again today, they'd say "We can't put that on the next album, the radio won't play it".

    The same with Muse. Man, i was THE biggest Muse fan in the world. Their 1st 2 albums are masterpieces.... but lately they have Coldplay syndrome. I don't blame them for it, but it makes me wonder if they would have continued to produce music like before if they hadn't gained the burden of pleasing 80,000 people in Wembley Stadium and worrying whether Chris Moyles will play it on Radio 1?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Sitec wrote: »
    Stone Roses. 90's Gold.:D

    You're right about the 80's though nothing but diarrhoea on a CD!:pac:

    WHAT?

    Are you mad? :mad:

    Have you never listened to Tony Fenton's "Friday Night is 80's Night" on Today FM?!

    Such classics as Toto's "Africa" and Mike & the Mechanics "The Living Years"?!!!

    ARE YOU F*CKING INSANE?!!?!?!!?!?!?!? :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:


    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Sitec wrote: »
    Stone Roses. 90's Gold.:D

    You're right about the 80's though nothing but diarrhoea on a CD!:pac:

    I think i'm the only 90s kid who doesn't "Get" The Stone Roses :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    I tell ya, when i forst got this album i loved it. And i still do.

    Problem is, everything after that has just been a regression. And they become more and more popular.

    I understand why people think Coldplay are rubbish and uncool and i agree they're pretty brutal........... but that debut album is superb! I think if they wrote those songs again today, they'd say "We can't put that on the next album, the radio won't play it".

    The same with Muse. Man, i was THE biggest Muse fan in the world. Their 1st 2 albums are masterpieces.... but lately they have Coldplay syndrome. I don't blame them for it, but it makes me wonder if they would have continued to produce music like before if they hadn't gained the burden of pleasing 80,000 people in Wembley Stadium and worrying whether Chris Moyles will play it on Radio 1?

    Coldplay & Muse are both guilty of trying too hard on the "need to stadium rock 'em" front. The same thing happened to both U2 & Simple Minds in the 90's and only one of them got away with it.

    Both of them still wrote some good tunes, as do Coldplay & Muse, but I suspect that Muse will be the ones to issue their own death notice, with the release of a "Belfast Child" style single, ala, Simple Minds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Coldplay & Muse are both guilty of trying too hard on the "need to stadium rock 'em" front. The same thing happened to both U2 & Simple Minds in the 90's and only one of them got away with it.

    Both of them still wrote some good tunes, as do Coldplay & Muse, but I suspect that Muse will be the ones to issue their own death notice, with the release of a "Belfast Child" style single, ala, Simple Minds.

    Yeah, Simple Minds really imploded. They tried to be bigger than they were really capable!

    The problem with Muse for me is, when i listen to Show Biz and Origin of Symettry, i always imagine that they wrote those songs for themselves. They never meant songs like Citizen Erazed or Fillip to be played on the radio.

    Now they have to think "Well.... will the 3 million people who bought our last album like this song? Will the Hundreds of Thousands who bought tickets for our tour?

    Thats a problem, but i dont blame THEM for it as such!

    and on the subject of the Tony Fenton show, how did you forget this stone cold classic, the 11th biggest selling single of the 80s



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭BattyInNZ


    WHAT?

    Are you mad? :mad:

    Have you never listened to Tony Fenton's "Friday Night is 80's Night" on Today FM?!

    Such classics as Toto's "Africa" and Mike & the Mechanics "The Living Years"?!!!

    ARE YOU F*CKING INSANE?!!?!?!!?!?!?!? :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:


    ;)

    It's like there was an alternative 80s - the majority of it was all that 'romantic pop' crap and then there was the above and Sinead O'Connor and "Nothing compares" and loads of stuff that gets lost in the 'best of' for some reason. I do think that when we people say they hate 80s they mean Duran Duran and other 'pretty people' :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    Music tends to go through bad patches in some decades, for some reason - the 60's & 70's were amazing times for music, as were the 90's, but the 80's & noughties really were quite awful. And funnily enough, a lot of the stuff from the noughties was very 80's influenced.


    80s music is still having it mark on modern music, New order, Depeche mode, Joy division, house martins.

    Now listen to this song



    grantye dthere affects through out the song but its the 80s all that crazy layering, synthising music and sounds really put things forward the 80s where the technoligical jump

    You cant say the 80s was a terrible time, because its not true it was brilliant.

    And that ever so popular instrament that most hiphop artists love the sampler. was out then really the 80-s where grat plus people had cd players the sise of video recorders :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Music has gone to sh1te since M-People broke up, everyone knows that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭chughes


    I'm in my early 50's and I do believe that I was lucky to have experienced at first hand Top of the Pops in it's hay-day and also Radio Luxembourg at night and BBC Radio 1 during the day.

    Sometimes I think back to those days and I wonder am I looking at it through rose tinted glasses but, on balance, I do believe that the quality/quantity of rock/pop music of the 60's and 70's far outweights anything being produced today. It makes me smile when I see teenagers today wearing tee shirts with the name of some band that was in it's prime long before they were born.

    The very fact that music from 60's/70's/80's is popular with many young people today speaks volumes about the quality of today's music.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭ChocolateSauce


    "I used to be with "it", but then they changed what "it" was. Now what I'm with isn't "it", and what is "it" seems strange and scary to me.

    And it'll happen to you, boy!"

    http://www.duffgardens.net/media/images/abewall.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose



    1990s

    Stone Roses
    The Smiths
    The Cure
    My Bloody Valentine
    The Pixies

    Beck
    Blur
    Oasis
    Pearl Jam
    Depeche Mode
    Pet Shop Boys
    Prince



    - the 80s were dominated by over produced pop & spandex heavy metal - .
    Sorry man, but the "90's" bands I have put in bold above, are ALL predominantly 80's band. Almost everything the Cure did of value(with the exception of bloodflowers, and bits of wish), was done in the 80's. The Smiths broke up in '87, Prince wasn't even called Prince in the 90's, Pixies had 3 80's albums - 2 90's albums, Depeche mode have twice as many 80's albums as 90's ones (And violator was released mere weeks into the 90's - culturally it's 80's as it gets). Stone Roses masterpiece was in '89, Pet shop boys and MBV about 50/50 but formed in the 80's.

    Add to all the awesome metal/rock bands from the 80's....

    It was a fcuking awesome decade for music. the best so far, IMO!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Placid_Casual


    Sitec wrote: »
    Stone Roses. 90's Gold.:D

    You're right about the 80's though nothing but diarrhoea on a CD!:pac:

    Um, The Stone Roses debut album and a lot of their great non-album singles like Fool's Gold and Sally Cinnamon were released in the 80s. All they did in the 90s was take years to release a bloated and underwhelming follow up and then promptly split.

    Also, there is LOADS of great music around at the moment. Its just that most of it doesn't get played on mainstream radio or appear in the single's chart. But its not hard to find.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    Um, The Stone Roses debut album and a lot of their great non-album singles like Fool's Gold and Sally Cinnamon were released in the 80s. All they did in the 90s was take years to release a bloated and underwhelming follow up and then promptly split.

    Also, there is LOADS of great music around at the moment. Its just that most of it doesn't get played on mainstream radio or appear in the single's chart. But its not hard to find.

    I have to admit, I find it difficult to listen to the Indie/Alternative/Rock stuff these days as well (in fact some of the chart stuff is a lot more listenable). If that fcuking Fireflies song is the alternative to David guetta, or whatever, then I'll stick to my ipod, thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Placid_Casual


    davyjose wrote: »
    I have to admit, I find it difficult to listen to the Indie/Alternative/Rock stuff these days as well (in fact some of the chart stuff is a lot more listenable). If that fcuking Fireflies song is the alternative to David guetta, or whatever, then I'll stick to my ipod, thanks.

    Fireflies?! Owl City?? That's not the alternative to anything!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    Fireflies?! Owl City?? That's not the alternative to anything!

    Any of the sh!t on phantom FM these days, tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Placid_Casual


    davyjose wrote: »
    Any of the sh!t on phantom FM these days, tbh.

    In fairness, Phantom has gone downhill dramatically in the past couple of years. I stopped listening when they started playing The Ting Tings on heavy rotation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    1990s

    Stone Roses
    The Smiths
    The Cure
    My Bloody Valentine
    The Pixies
    Beck
    Blur
    Oasis
    Pearl Jam
    Depeche Mode
    Pet Shop Boys
    Prince

    I'd add onto that list :-

    Primal Scream
    Jesus and Mary Chain
    Mazzy Star
    Massive Attack
    Stereo MCs
    The Shamen


    I'm know some of them were going in to the 80s, I'm talking about when they came to prominence.

    Thing I thought was so good about the 90s for music was- it had something to cater for every different taste. Music in the noughties is simply too narrowly focused.

    On top of that you have the desecration of the industry by that money-grabbing square-head Cowell and his bland X-Factor cack. Brainwashing a generation of young people into thinking he is the gatekeeper that they must go through to be in the music industry, that cnut has a lot to answer for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    Duckjob wrote: »
    I'd add onto that list :-

    Primal Scream
    Jesus and Mary Chain
    Mazzy Star
    Massive Attack
    Stereo MCs
    The Shamen
    Oasis


    I'm know some of them were going in to the 80s, I'm talking about when they came to prominence.

    Thing I thought was so good about the 90s for music was- it had something to cater for every different taste. Music in the noughties is simply too narrowly focused.

    On top of that you have the desecration of the industry by that money-grabbing square-head Cowell and his bland X-Factor cack. Brainwashing a generation of young people into thinking he is the gatekeeper that they must go through to be in the music industry, that cnut has a lot to answer for.

    As I said above, the list you quoted is mostly 80's though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭getz


    Oil of Ulay, sense of humour and sudden realisation that yes your tits will drop, your balls will sag and no one has a fcuking clue who the fcuking Sultans of Ping are.
    wait untill you get into your late 60s like me,i am still living in the matt monroe pj proby and clarence[ frogman] henry days .


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    davyjose wrote: »
    Sorry man, but the "90's" bands I have put in bold above, are ALL predominantly 80's band. Almost everything the Cure did of value(with the exception of bloodflowers, and bits of wish), was done in the 80's. The Smiths broke up in '87, Prince wasn't even called Prince in the 90's, Pixies had 3 80's albums - 2 90's albums, Depeche mode have twice as many 80's albums as 90's ones (And violator was released mere weeks into the 90's - culturally it's 80's as it gets). Stone Roses masterpiece was in '89, Pet shop boys and MBV about 50/50 but formed in the 80's.

    Add to all the awesome metal/rock bands from the 80's....

    It was a fcuking awesome decade for music. the best so far, IMO!!!

    You're not wrong - it was late when I posted that last night & my memory ain't the best. The 80's did have better music than I recollected.

    The noughties were still sh*te though. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,627 ✭✭✭Fol20


    khmk wrote: »
    Ok Im 30 years old, not old old but for the last few years whenever i flick through the music channels on Sky it seems to take longer and longer before i find a decent song.

    I know its a natural thing as you get older you lose touch with the youth culture. Don't get me wrong i can listen to all genres of music and appreciate good tunes.

    But it seems to me most of the music nowadays on mtv etc just sounds like crap European Techno Pop music with some bird warbling over the beat.

    R n' B too has been raped out of all recognition from what it was in the 90's. It just all sounds the same with everyone trying to have a Timbaland beat over every song.

    I know music evolves and the songs in the 90's were different than songs in the 80's etc., etc. But i love tunes from 60's 70's 80' 90's etc

    But its rarer and rarer to hear classic tunes that will stand the test of time these days. it all sound like the same generic shiite to me.

    Maybe i should stick to my i pod, but i remember the days when i could leave MTV on when i got in at this hour of the weekend and always find a good song on godammit.

    Yeah i know every generation says the same thing about the generation before them but a lot of it sounds like cack to me

    And when did they crack down on "racism" ffs! :mad:

    It can go both ways,i like the modern dance music,but cant stand older songs even older dance songs.

    I dunno about the music forum for rock etc but the dance and dj forum is full of old trolls that wont allow any younger form of dance in:mad:

    case in point
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=62132437#post62132437

    and my own one:
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055704401


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    The beauty of getting older is that you realise that there are loads of things that you don't give a fook about (probably to smart to shout it from the rooftops though) and you don't even give a fook that you don't give a fook


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭Einhard


    You're not getting older, everyone else is getting younger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,373 ✭✭✭Executive Steve


    Ok, I'm 31 and I'm a certified music-o-holic, not for me the selected-fine-wines approach of the genre loyalist, I'm the musical equivalent of the tramp on the pavement drinking lighter fluid and cooking sherry! And I'm here to say that you're all talking rubbish IMO - Pop has never been this avant-garde, Hip-Hop may be dying a funny protracted death (or else just settling into it's 80's FM rock phase the way Rock did before Grunge swept through it like a breath of fresh air) but there are still incredibly interesting local movements coming out of it all over the planet - (Angolan Kuduro, English Grime, Juke in Chicago etc etc); Electronic music is in a really healthy space right now, Metal still sounds pretty much the way it always has and that's why people liked it in the first place...

    The problem is that tastes have become so atomised and media have become so specialised that the vast amount of what you hear on the radio is actually not at all reflective of broader cultural tastes, and because the bottom has fallen out of the music market to a very large extent it's only the absolute sewage that the likes of the X-Factor industry produces (as well as U2, Coldplay etc) and that can give a very distorted picture what's actually out there.

    Remember - we have the technology to carry 40.000 songs around on a device the size of a packet of cigarettes, we are almost constantly connected to a global telecommunications network enabling us to pluck WHATEVER we want to listen to or watch out of the ether on the merest of whims. If you can't be bothered trying to find anything you want to listen to that's better than the ten cd's you listened to when you were in college ten years ago then that's hardly the fault of modern music, it's sheer laziness. You can't rely on good culture to beat a path to your door, it doesn't WORK like that anymore, you need to go digging.

    There's nothing wrong with not being "trendy" or "young and hip" as if some pimple faced teenager has more of a right to enjoy music than you do - you need to work out what you like and be adventurous and work out what you want to hear, develop your taste, because I guarantee there's a whole world of music out there waiting to be explored.

    I've listened to Turkish psychedelic funk bands from the 1970's, Nigerian Disco from the 80's, Bollywood Soundtracks, Polish and Norwegian Jazz bands, Detroit Techno, the whole crazy continuum of UK street dance music from 1990-2010, crackly field recordings of old Blues singers and cottonfield worksongs, Ambient music, entire Symphonies by heads whose names I can't pronounce, never mind spell, and that's in the last few weeks alone... It's ENDLESS, literally, ENDLESS...

    If you really think there's no good music out there beyond the stuff in the sales rack of Golden Discs and that music somehow reached it's pinnacle in the stuff that you played on your stereo around the time you first got laid then I hate to break it to you but it's nobody's fault but yours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,373 ✭✭✭Executive Steve


    Sitec wrote: »

    You're right about the 80's though nothing but diarrhoea on a CD!:pac:



    If that CD is the double CD "Classic Hits of the 80's" compilation that your annoying girl housemate insists on putting on at parties then maybe...

    I'm shocked that posts like this can even get made tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Duckjob wrote: »
    I'd add onto that list :-

    Primal Scream
    Jesus and Mary Chain
    Mazzy Star
    Massive Attack
    Stereo MCs
    The Shamen

    I'd add ..

    Flock Of Seagulls
    Haircut 100


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭ricman


    Well you look at the music video channels,music has just split into specialist genres ,heavy metal, indie, europop,r+b,dance,hip hop etc but theres loads of great music out there.I think lady ga ga is great ,shes an original artist with something to say who writes her own songs.IF you turn on the tv at random you may not see them ,but you can still buy cds or download from itunes,whether they are on tv or not.
    I think singers like,lily allen or shakira are as good as artists from the 90s.
    ITS a shame mtv doesnt play music videos in prime time anymore.
    ITS like tv, now theres 100 channels so the audience is fragmented apart from shows like xfactor,ie people watch there own specific channels.
    I like how many artists are looking back on the 70s, 80s and allowing it to influence their songs
    without just copying it .
    IF you dont like hip hop ,dance or europop that maybe means you have good taste ,than you
    are getting old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,788 ✭✭✭dasdog


    Turkish psychedelic funk bands from the 1970's, Nigerian Disco from the 80's

    I must investigate. It's very easy to dismiss audio outside the Anglo/American world. It's equally easy to overlook the 1950's a decade of superb jazz, great blues and the birth of something called rock'n'roll.


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