"Heroes" has been cancelled

FouxDaFaFa

It's official. NBC has cancelled "Heroes."The network seriously mulled bringing back "Heroes" for a shortened final season to wrap up the serialized show.
In the end, given the fairly high cost of the drama, the show's consistently declining ratings and the number of new hour-longs coming to NBC next season, the network decided the UMS-produced series wasn't worth an additional season. Sources are still leaving the door open to conclude the show with a special or movie, but also tabling that verdict until after upfronts, which isn't the best sign.
The show has long had a rocky relationship with its fans. Out of the gate, "Heroes" was a big hit for the network -- an ethnically diverse big-concept ensemble that performed well overseas. It was NBC's "Lost."
But the show's writers struggled to keep the show's twisting narrative on track. Characters were killed off and resurrected with regularity. Narrative threads were started, then abandoned. Unlike "Lost," there didn't seem to be series-long central questions driving the show that needed to be resolved with a final season.
Among NBC's new shows, there's several entries aimed at genre fans that the network hopes will rekindle its audience -- superhero drama "The Cape," "24"-style conspiracy thriller "The Event" and J.J. Abrams' light-hearted spy drama "Undercovers." Also, of course, "Chuck" is coming back.

From the hollywood reporter.

I'll admit, I stopped watching Heroes last season but I was under the impression it had picked up in quality lately?

KeithM89_old

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055911916

Yup - cant say il miss it

Tristram

Hurray!

Also Starring LeVar Burton

Thank God... Watched the first 3 seasons, but season 2 and 3 were a waste of my time...

chalkitdown1

About damn time. I've never seen a show implode as quickly as heroes did.

Mr.Nice Guy

I gave up on it during the recent season with Samuel and the carnies. I thought it was a better season that the ones before but I just didn't care enough about it any more.

First season was superb. I remember debating which was the better show, Lost or Heroes, after their excellent first seasons.

Dman001

Season 1 was bril, but went so down hill after that. I couldn't even finish watching the last season. I see NBC cancelled Mercy and Trauma too, hopefully that means Chuck is safe.

Edit: Just read the Original Post, Chuck's coming back!! Hurray.

J-blk

Dman001 wrote: »

Edit: Just read the Original Post, Chuck's coming back!! Hurray.

Chuck deserved the renewal, Heroes didn't. Though I watched it to the bitter end, I can't say I'll miss it, it was way past its' prime.

Redisle

That's great news, that show should have died 2 seasons ago.

G-Money

I kind of liked Season 1 but I got the impression that the show was very pretentious and they all seemed very smug or something.

deman

It lost its appeal during season 2. I haven't seen s3 so I can't comment any more.

MickShamrock

Never watched this show.

Corkfeen

One of the few shows that I gave up on this year, literally stopped watching it about half way though the season.;)

RolandIRL

watched it til the end to see if it picked up. i thought they were going to bring back the writers from season 1 (the best one). can't say i'm going to miss it.

Ivan

I honestly think if they had of waved the possibility of cancellation over their heads a bit, the show would have gotten better. After season 2 they should have threatened cancellation and it might have resulted in changes to the cast that would have ultimately saved it.

Storylines were being cut into ribbons just to bring particular cast members into the limelight, a place they had no business being, meaning the show got alot worse before it could ever get better. Shame really, it always had such great potential and there has never been a good live-action superhero series, at least not in this century.

expectationlost

um wasn't this show over

RolandIRL

it's not coming back for another full season although they may make a mini-series/movie to tie up the loose ends according to wikipedia

Michael B

Finally! It had turned in to utter sh1te.

cable842

really I loved the first season.

Spiritoftheseventies

Keithm89 wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055911916

Yup - cant say il miss it

Yup just was too much going on with it. Lost annoys me at times but had far more going for it.

johnny_ultimate

I tend to be fairly good with sticking with shows for their run time, but Heroes had become shockingly inept when I finally gave up back in Season 3. The ideas were good at the start, but the tone and characters got more and more irritating as it went on. From week to week I honestly didn't understand what was happening anymore, who was who, who wasn't who, why who was who etc... The characters weren't grounded anymore, their motivations made up as they went along. Then

they killed Kristen Bell, who had become the only reason I was watching most weeks in the vague, overly optimistic hope that suddenly the producers would knowingly wink at the audience and just start showing Veronica Mars Season 4 instead.

Hence I quit, and honestly had no interest in where the characters ended up.

That said, reading through the sarcastic reviews the AV Club gave every episode from season 3 onwards provided me with some giggles one evening.

MikeC101

Loved the first season, but to be honest, cancelling it is just putting it out of it's misery at this stage.

molloyjazz

Season 1 was good 2 not so good.. i did feel it started to pick up, but never seemed to know what direction it was heading in either, but if the writers new for sure they had x amount of series it might not have sucked so hard.. i loved it, hopefully it will return with the appropiate team behind it.. or even a film would have tons of potential.

speedboatchase

molloyjazz wrote: »

Season 1 was good 2 not so good.. i did feel it started to pick up, but never seemed to know what direction it was heading in either, but if the writers new for sure they had x amount of series it might not have sucked so hard.. i loved it, hopefully it will return with the appropiate team behind it.. or even a film would have tons of potential.

:eek: I really think you should lower those expectations...

ejmaztec

whiteman19 wrote: »

it's not coming back for another full season although they may make a mini-series/movie to tie up the loose ends according to wikipedia

There was talk of a final 13 part mini-series to tie up loose ends, but I think that idea was scrapped.

I don't think that there were any loose ends to tie up, or none that I was interested in seeing, such was the mess that was made of it.

johndoe99

Season 1 was brilliant, Season 2 was not bad, Season 3, so-so, Season 4 had a great storyline, but what I hated was that they stretched a story that could have been wrapped up in 5 episodes to 19. They had to way many characters/actors that were looking for screen time. I'm glad its finished.

FreudianSlippers

ejmaztec wrote: »

There was talk of a final 13 part mini-series to tie up loose ends, but I think that idea was scrapped.

I don't think that there were any loose ends to tie up, or none that I was interested in seeing, such was the mess that was made of it.

See my post in the Heroes forum. 13 episode idea is definitely scrapped since the 14th. They are discussing a 2-4 hour TV film, but networks have promised that for loads of shows that have ended with a similar number of viewers and they never happened. Mainly, the budget it would need is the main hurdle.
Besides, I think it had the best possible ending - spelling out whether humanity accepted these people or not would be totally contrived and retarded, especially with the current situation of the writing and acting. Heroes fans might think they want a wrap-up, but will end up more disappointed IMO than if they just leave it be.

FouxDaFaFa

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

they killed Kristen Bell, who had become the only reason I was watching most weeks in the vague, overly optimistic hope that suddenly the producers would knowingly wink at the audience and just start showing Veronica Mars Season 4 instead.

That's when I stopped watching too. I just got so confused when they started overdoing the alternate universes and alternate outcomes.

Richard Dower

One less Sci-Fi show....but it was a victim of it's own success. Tim Kring punked out in the last two eps. of season 1 - Kirby Plaza should have been a blood bath, with several regulars killed off. They never even explored the relationship of the eclipse to the powers or the people, it seems very related in series 1.

RolandIRL

Richard Dower wrote: »

One less Sci-Fi show....but it was a victim of it's own success. Tim Kring punked out in the last two eps. of season 1 - Kirby Plaza should have been a blood bath, with several regulars killed off. They never even explored the relationship of the eclipse to the powers or the people, it seems very related in series 1.

they did explore the eclipse!

it had the power to stop people's abilities and also triggered abilities in some people. it's a superhero series. no need for why eclipses do this!

agree that Kirby plaza should have been a bloodbath. they had too many characters (enough for season 1 when they were all interconnected) but they all seemed to lose contact with each other and had their own separate storyline. better to have one linking plot.

trebor28

was heroes problem not cause of the writers strike?
season 1 was great as everyone said, then came season 2 with the writers strike in the middle. they ploughed on with the show instead of stalling it, and this is what ruined it.
or at least thats what i thought went wrong. they couldnt resuce it after that cause the damage had been done.
although when you think of it they could have sent hiro back to change the writers strike, (only jokin), change what they had done wrong in season 2.

Kiith

trebor28 wrote: »

was heroes problem not cause of the writers strike?
season 1 was great as everyone said, then came season 2 with the writers strike in the middle. they ploughed on with the show instead of stalling it, and this is what ruined it.
or at least thats what i thought went wrong. they couldnt resuce it after that cause the damage had been done.
although when you think of it they could have sent hiro back to change the writers strike, (only jokin), change what they had done wrong in season 2.

They could blame the writers strike for the shoddy writing in season 2. What about the shoddy writing in seasons 3 and 4?

trebor28

well was it not ruined cause of season 2? was it a case of they made of an unrepairable mess of season 2 and couldn't get it back on track after that?

maybe it was just the writers, i dunno but season 2 was such a let down for me, i could barely watch season 3 and 4.

PerrinV2

Wasn't the orginal plan for season 2 that there were gonna start off with a new set of charachters or something?

FreudianSlippers

PerrinV2 wrote: »

Wasn't the orginal plan for season 2 that there were gonna start off with a new set of charachters or something?

They could hardly write one set of characters properly, I'd hate to imagine the ballsup that would have been a whole new cast for season 2~!

Sad Professor

I loved the first season. Endured the second. Watched some of the good bits of season 3 and then gave up. My only regret is that I didn't stop sooner.

The main problem with the show was the concept just didn't have longevity, at least not the way it was executed. A tv show based around the origin story of superheroes was a brilliant idea, but the writers basically blew their load in the first season. By the time they got to the first season finale they were fresh out of ideas and money, and the season ended on a very anticlimactic note. I don't think the show ever recovered except briefly for the odd episode here or there.

I mean, once a superhero becomes a superhero you have to be able to show him doing super sh*t, like flying and getting into fights with other superheroes. A tv show doesn't have the budget for that type of thing on a continuous basis though, so they had to keep coming up with different excuses for them not to use their powers. But the first season ended with everyone becoming all-powerful. As a result they had to resort to all these stupid amnesia stories and crap in later seasons.

And yeah, Kring's original plan was for each season to focus on a different group of heroes. This probably explains why he threw everything into the first season. But then I guess after the huge success of the show he couldn't just ditch all those popular characters in favour of a new cast. Look at how popular the Mexican wonder twins were.

Rest in peace, Heroes.

Cami

Im glad! Good riddance to that annoying Hayden Pannitiere!

opinion guy

Well its kind of a shame really isn't it? This show started with potential.

trebor28 wrote: »

was heroes problem not cause of the writers strike?
season 1 was great as everyone said, then came season 2 with the writers strike in the middle. they ploughed on with the show instead of stalling it, and this is what ruined it.
or at least thats what i thought went wrong. they couldnt resuce it after that cause the damage had been done.
although when you think of it they could have sent hiro back to change the writers strike, (only jokin), change what they had done wrong in season 2.

No personally what I think was wrong with the show was they used 'time travel reset to zero' once too often. In other words no matter what happened someone would travel back or forward in time, undo things and things would start all over again. It just made character development pointless, when it would be completely reversed in 3 episodes time.

The ONLY time I've seen 'reset to zero' creatively and justifiably used was in the latest Star Trek movie. Other than that its generally a bad, bad idea.

Richard Dower

I don't blame the writers strike, Kring wrote that Japan Hiro crap BEFORE the strike....he botched the last two eps. of seasone one. Heroes as a concept was really a standalone SINGLE season, imo.