Time for an Irish Epic- Brian Boru or Cú Chulainn

CabbageThing

With the success of Lord of the Rings, Braveheart, Gladiator, Apocalypto etc etc, Its time now for one of The Irish myths/legends/historical events to be convertered into a major Hollywood film.Obivioulsy not a CGI fest (which nowadays seems to be the norm)The obvious story to be brought to the big screen is Brian Boru.

nix

........are...... you..... making......... this movie... or .... ?

CabbageThing

If I had the money! , and maybe a camera

D-Generate

Cú Chulainn would be great. Specifically the one where he fights his brother or whatnot at the river. Alas it would be a major CGI film as it is steeped in mythology.

We don't have a huge wealth of good battle stories since who really wants to see us get defeated. If I wanted to watch a massacre of indigenous people I would watch Zulu. Maybe the Nine Years War would do but either Hollywood-ise it and make it a victory or don't have the Flight of the Earls.

liah

I'm a dirty foreigner, so can someone just do a little synopsis of the stories as they go so I have a clue what's going on?

Galvasean

liah wrote: »

I'm a dirty foreigner, so can someone just do a little synopsis of the stories as they go so I have a clue what's going on?

So right, there was this young fella called Ciaran. He was playing hurley one day (like the irish version of hockey, but I know you know...) and this big huge F off dog comes to eat him. So he hits the ball into the dogs mouth and it dies (in a movie version it will most likely burst out the back of its neck in an orgy of CGI blood).
Then, for some reason, everyone calls him Chuchulan as he beats seven shades of shyte out of the rest of Ireland, becomes king, or something.

Then there was the story of Fionn McCool (nice name for a movie star) and the clever fish....

johnny_ultimate

Galvasean wrote: »

So right, there was this young fella called Ciaran. He was playing hurley one day (like the irish version of hockey, but I know you know...) and this big huge F off dog comes to eat him. So he hits the ball into the dogs mouth and it dies (in a movie version it will most likely burst out the back of its neck in an orgy of CGI blood).
Then, for some reason, everyone calls him Chuchulan as he beats seven shades of shyte out of the rest of Ireland, becomes king, or something.

Then there was the story of Fionn McCool (nice name for a movie star) and the clever fish....

Wasn't there a few cows at one point too?

I learned that from a Decemberists EP.

Lu Tze

Galvasean wrote: »

So right, there was this young fella called Ciaran. He was playing hurley one day (like the irish version of hockey, but I know you know...) and this big huge F off dog comes to eat him. So he hits the ball into the dogs mouth and it dies (in a movie version it will most likely burst out the back of its neck in an orgy of CGI blood).
Then, for some reason, everyone calls him Chuchulan as he beats seven shades of shyte out of the rest of Ireland, becomes king, or something.

Then there was the story of Fionn McCool (nice name for a movie star) and the clever fish....

You forgot the bull :pac:

Duggy747

Heh, I was thinking the same thing recently about these legends being brought to screen. It's only a matter of time really.

If we get Mel Gibson to direct then it's gonna be ludriciously violent but have a coherent story, too! :pac:

Lamper.sffc

Loved these stories when I was younger. I always wondered would they ever make these stories into films. I think it would be brilliant. The stories themselves where actually quite violent. Would make for some great movies if done right. Possible a Cu Chulainn trilogy?:)

ziedth

As much as I loved them as a kid let's be honest it's not exactly on the se scale as the lotr story.

If I remember right there is some deadly story about two brother fighting on a river I could only really see that working.

Lu Tze

ziedth wrote: »

If I remember right there is some deadly story about two brother fighting on a river I could only really see that working.

That would be Ferdia, not a brother as far as i know. There is a statue in Ardee of Cu Chulainn holding the fallen ferdia in his arms.

bnt

re Brian Boru, you're not the first to think of that idea. There were plans for an adaptation of the story a few years ago, and we discussed it here. It was to be called Freedom Within The Heart, with Leonardo DiCaprio as Boru; it got cancelled.

Galvasean

Lu Tze wrote: »

You forgot the bull :pac:

Tiz all bull!!!! *shakes fist*

Lamper.sffc

ziedth wrote: »

As much as I loved them as a kid let's be honest it's not exactly on the se scale as the lotr story.

If I remember right there is some deadly story about two brother fighting on a river I could only really see that working.

Its a long time since iv read them so I cant really remember how long the various stories where but as far as I remember the Cu Chulainn story was pretty extensive (it is possible im mixing some of the Fionn mac Cumhaill stuff up with it though).
Doesnt have to be as long as Lord of the Rings anyway as the most difficult thing about making the rings trilogy was the fact they had to pare the story down to fit it into 3 very long films. They are also getting two films out of The Hobbit. Artistic license and all that.

As for the brother thingy from what I can remember they where friends on opposite sides who fought for 3 days at the river.

Beruthiel

Galvasean wrote: »

So right, there was this young fella called Ciaran. He was playing hurley one day (like the irish version of hockey, but I know you know...) and this big huge F off dog comes to eat him. So he hits the ball into the dogs mouth and it dies (in a movie version it will most likely burst out the back of its neck in an orgy of CGI blood).
Then, for some reason, everyone calls him Chuchulan as he beats seven shades of shyte out of the rest of Ireland, becomes king, or something.

In true Hollywood fashion, you left out a few vital bits of info there Galvasean.

Queen Maeve and Gráinne Mhaol could also do with a film.

Nuada Silverhand, Tuatha De Danaan and the Fir Bolg.

Kess73

Let's just have a big budget film about Sláine that stays faithful to the source material.






And a fan made short film (which would have sounded better if it were in Irish)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRIPAsbhZpM

Better pic quality but no subtitles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Xt0E-v829o

Paleface

Galvasean wrote: »

Then, for some reason, everyone calls him Chuchulan as he beats seven shades of shyte out of the rest of Ireland, becomes king, or something.

He was called Setanta before he killed the dog. The reason he was called Cu Chulainn after he killed the dog was becase the dog was owned by a man who's name was Chulainn. "Cu Chulainn" translates roughly to "The Hound of Chulainn".

So there!!

fryup

Brian Boru for me, the others were myths whilst he really existed.

I think Brian Boru's lifestory would make a great movie....violence, lust, power struggles, jealousy, battles.

and there's only one man who could fill that role > Brendan Gleeson

Coriolanus

I'd prefer Strongbow (omg he's not irish!) or Grainne Mhuail.

MikeC101

nix wrote: »

........are...... you..... making......... this movie... or .... ?

Maybe he could be in it.

Zapp Brannigan

The whole Ferdia and Cu Chullainn battle would be sweet. Fight during the day, and share food and tend each others wounds at night.

Will never happen though.

Spiritoftheseventies

Think it deserves a television series like the tudors but where is the money coming from. Its all tied up in reality tv at the moment. Some terrific stories in there that deserve telling.

Galvasean

Zapp Brannigan wrote: »

The whole Ferdia and Cu Chullainn battle would be sweet. Fight during the day, and share food and tend each others wounds at night.

Then we sit back and watch as American conservatives proclaim it to be part of the 'liberal homosexual agenda'.

Renn

I wish the David Gemmell book 'Legend' was made in to a movie

Renn

fryup wrote: »

Brian Boru for me, the others were myths whilst he really existed.

I think Brian Boru's lifestory would make a great movie....violence, lust, power struggles, jealousy, battles.

and there's only one man who could fill that role > Brendan Gleeson

So I take it that the Di Caprio version never got off the ground?

bnt

Renn wrote: »

So I take it that the Di Caprio version never got off the ground?

Like I said back on pg. 1, it was cancelled. (Do people have me on "ignore" or something?)

Renn

Woops, sorry dude. Missed that post.

Spiritoftheseventies

MikeC101 wrote: »

Maybe he could be in it.

Ah would have to be him. Has mastered the scots language so it wouldn't be that hard for him.

CelticWar

Movie wasnt cancelled, just got held up. Principal photography begins in 2011 according to the website.

http://www.freedomwithintheheart.com/

Cianan2

Would anybody else think that the story of Dan Breen be a good film? I personally think it would be awesome, although it isn't an "epic" style story like the others mentioned!!

spank_inferno

Why the "or" in the thread title?

Surely "VS" would be better

Duggy747

spank_inferno wrote: »

Why the "or" in the thread title?

Surely "VS" would be better

Brian Boru
VS.
Cú Chulainn
RESSURECTION!

There, now the movie has basically wrote itself. :pac:

mikhail

I was reminded of the Cúchulainn story, specifically of The Raid of Cooley, when I was watching 300. It has the same centerpiece of an invading army (Persia, Connaught) held at bay by an insigificant (but supremely skillful) force (300 Spartans, Cuchulainn) at a choke point (hot gates, ford) because the bulk of the home defence was unable to meet the invaders (politics and religion, a curse (sleeping spell?)).

everdead.ie

There was a book called Brian Bor my favourite from my childhood that I always wanted to see made into a book.
I think it's a great story that should be told

mathepac

Beruthiel wrote: »

... Gráinne Mhaol could also do with a film... .

Glad to oblige -

Then there was the red-haired bird from Mayo who liked to sail around in ships and rob travellers on the high seas (dat wuz before we done the tarmac and got de vans and haltin' sites, boss - make more tay dere, Julia). Lizzie from England came over for a visit and thought the O'Malley wan was the bees' knees and the coolest thing before sliced bread. They got locked together and left a trail of destruction behind them from Eyre Square down Shop Street to the Claddagh.

On the way down Shop Street, the pair fall over a fat drunk lying in the gutter, roaring "Where's Lenihan gone, where's fecken Lenihan?" Once sobered up, Lizzie sailed home from the Claddagh Basin to smoke fags and ate spuds with Wally, the lad who invented Raleigh bicycles, who was just back from his holidays in Florida.

Meanwhile Grace married the King of Monaco. They had a hape of childer, who invaded Las Vegas and started casinos and gambling joints, which started the Mafia.

Draft Cast :

Mary Coughlan - Grace O'Malley
Colin Farrell - Grace's whore-bound, sorry shore-bound, fellah or house-husband
Helen Mirren - Elizabeth I
Pat Short - King of the Tinkers
Mick Smurfit / Denis O'Brien - The King and Crown Prince of Monaco
Sinead O'Connor & Steve Cooney - Madonna & Elvis, off-spring of Grace and the King of Monaco
Biffo - a fat drunk lying in the gutter

Sanjuro

Seeing Cu Chullain go into the berserker rage during battle would be absolutely bad-ass!

mathepac

Paleface wrote: »

... The reason he was called Cu Chulainn after he killed the dog was becase the dog was owned by a man who's name was Chulainn. "Cu Chulainn" translates roughly to "The Hound of Chulainn". ....

Partly true; the full sad saga is like this :

A young Nordy fellah was going around installing satellite dishes and illegal decoders in the South. He done well for a while and got a new white van in the North that he printed his name on in big Orange letters - "Setanta" it said.

He started selling knocked off televisions as well at great prices and soon "Setanta Televisions" were in great demand until the Garda in de Nort and de Southern Police got on his case and interred him in the Curragh for VRT evasion.

Setanta escaped from the Curragh and hitch-hiked all the way up the Dualler to Drimnagh. Frightened by the drug-dealing and savagery he saw all round him in the class-rooms of Drimnagh Castle primary school, he made his way to Walkinstown where he broke into a huge mansion.

Accidentally disturbing the old stud-dog in the puppy-farm at the back of the property, Setanta was forced to kill him by stuffing a penny apple down his throat, the rotten fruit poisoning the old mongrel.

Suddenly the flood-lights went on and two terrifying figures confronted Setanta. The one with the dark hair-dye spoke. "Who're you an' whaddya bleedin' want?" Setanta's heart sank. He recognised the fake tan, the dark blue suit and the face that "adorned" a rain-forsst of posters and news-paper ads. This was Bigg Cullen, the infamous wheeler-dealer who had made his first fortune as an Apple dealer and was now selling clocked lemons from a porto-kabin on the Ballymount Road.

Setanta told Bigg his story. "Dat's all well an' good" said Bigg, "burr I'm da enterpuneer here, an' the bad news is - Setanta you're hired. Me dog is dead, so you're it, righ'?" Setanta nodded, his Nordy pride dented.

"From now on you'll be known as Cullen's Dog, righ'?". Setanta nodded, thanking Big Ian that there wasn't a vacancy for another Bigg's Bitch. Setanta shuddered, eying the current dyed blonde Bigg's Bitch with the hideous botoxed and callogened physiognomy and vowed that at least he would never have to stand three paces behind and to the left of Bigg, while trying to speak through lips the size of bananas.

Next Episode:

Setanta invades Fiji and retires to Cork