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Vincent Browne upstages RTE News(Riot outside Dáil last night)

  • 12-05-2010 1:20pm
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    I was watching Skynews last night and at 8:50 they mentioned the fact the 'the Irish Parliament had been stromed be protestors'. So I rolled tuned in to RTE at 9 expecting to hear the latest on the assault. what did I get? Nothing. Well all but nothing. They managed to scab Dublin city Council traffic camera footage from 200 metres away.

    Pathetic

    Then Vincent had it all up close and in technicolour...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,082 ✭✭✭✭Spiritoftheseventies


    I was watching Skynews last night and at 8:50 they mentioned the fact the 'the Irish Parliament had been stromed be protestors'. So I rolled tuned in to RTE at 9 expecting to hear the latest on the assault. what did I get? Nothing. Well all but nothing. They managed to scab Dublin city Council traffic camera footage from 200 metres away.

    Pathetic

    Then Vincent had it all up close and in technicolour...
    Mentioned this on another thread but pretty sure that was an editorial call. Some stations prioritize stories differently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    rte had it right , a bunch of crusties looking to get a headline is not news. More shame of vincent for being such a patsy

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭pog it


    V Browne has more class and talent than all the RTE journalists put together.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭BrianD


    RTE made the right call. It was just a push and shove at the gate hardly the storming of the bastille. I'm sure the Gardai deal with worse every night of the week and it goes largely unreported.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,082 ✭✭✭✭Spiritoftheseventies


    Vincent Browne I think has a lot going for him as a presenter but think there was a wrong call made on this one. RTE called it right.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    maybe he's trying to send and old hint ... wink wink etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    VB Tonight relies too much on VB. TV3 would want to be careful.

    Sky News go looking for riots. You saw them at the G20 Summit protests.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Pen1987


    An editorial call to cover the story with traffic cameras from 200 metres away?

    Maybe Vinnie Browne (favourite of the Left) got a tip-off that something was going to go down, and RTE (which the Left see as an arm of FF) didn't.

    Sky ran it off the back of a PA wire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Pen1987 wrote: »
    Maybe Vinnie Browne (favourite of the Left) got a tip-off that something was going to go down, and RTE (which the Left see as an arm of FF) didn't.

    FF see RTÉ as an arm of the Unions. And I can't imagine people on the left being fans of TV3, VB is a sell out on that channel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Pen1987


    Were you at the protest last night? RTE was excoriated as government shills.

    It doesnt matter how the Govt see RTE in this context, the Govt weren't going to be tipping off the media about trouble arising.

    Vincent Browne is the darling of the Left, no matter what channel he's on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Pen1987 wrote: »
    Were you at the protest last night? RTE was excoriated as government shills.

    It doesnt matter how the Govt see RTE in this context, the Govt weren't going to be tipping off the media about trouble arising.

    Vincent Browne is the darling of the Left, no matter what channel he's on.

    I am not suggesting that RTÉ shouldn't be criticized but I find it amusing that the Left would think that TV3 aren't hard line neo-liberal capitalists. I suppose if VB had been on RTÉ Radio, TV3 would have been vehemently denounced for what they are, as hopeful would RTÉ.

    Your use of the phrase "Darling of the Left" seems to suggest that you aren't a lefty at all as I would have thought such a statement is condescending one.

    I would assume the government didn't know about trouble arising, so how could they tip off the media? Of course as you point out why would they want to?

    Anyway AFAIC nothing actually happen other than a little scuffle, The neo-liberal media generally go OTT on such items.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Pen1987


    Elmo wrote: »
    I am not suggesting that RTÉ shouldn't be criticized but I find it amusing that the Left would think that TV3 aren't hard line neo-liberal capitalists.

    I think you've misunderstood me. I've suggested that the people causing trouble at the march tipped off elements of the media - i.e Tonight with Vincent Browne - who they thought may give them coverage. On that note, Vincent Browne, despite his change of tone more recently, did, if I recall correctly, broadly support the actions on his show that night.

    Your use of the phrase "Darling of the Left" seems to suggest that you aren't a lefty at all as I would have thought such a statement is condescending one.

    Not at all.
    I would assume the government didn't know about trouble arising, so how could they tip off the media? Of course as you point out why would they want to?

    That was my point. When you said the Government would see RTE as a branch of the unions I said the Government's position, if they have one, on RTE is irrelevant in this situation.

    The Left, at least the Lefties I know, see Vincent Browne as a almost a their sole representative in what they term "neo-liberal corporate media". The fact he works for TV3 is irrelevant to them.
    Anyway AFAIC nothing actually happen other than a little scuffle, The neo-liberal media generally go OTT on such items.

    The problem is when there's a little scuffle - which, like it or not, provide great photos - the scuffle becomes the story.

    If there wasn't a scuffle last week the story would have been "hundreds march on the Dail". Then this week the story would have been "Hundreds march on the Dail for the second time". Instead, because of the attention-seeking minority the story was "Tiny number of loons attempt to storm Dail" and today it's "Tiny number of loons attempt to storm Dail again".

    The tiny number of people attempting to overthrow Government, or whatever their aims are, are detracting from the actual deserving story about the protests against Government policy.

    In attempting to get into Leinster House last week they've set the bar too high for the next story. Now, I expect, the media won't cover it unless something more 'newsworthy' happens at a march than happened the first week. "Hundreds march" doesn't catch the eye in the same way a close-up snap of a bloodied Joe Soap and a baton-weilding Garda does...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Pen1987 wrote: »
    The Left, at least the Lefties I know, see Vincent Browne as a almost a their sole representative in what they term "neo-liberal corporate media". The fact he works for TV3 is irrelevant to them.

    Why criticize only one arm of the media so? Ever hear of Communicorp or perhaps UTV?

    I agree that VB is a good journalist and commentator and whom he writes for is not relevant, however TV3 are a bone of contention for me. You should read the so called left wing Hot Press interview with David McRedmond, I was surprise such a publication let him away with his rhetoric.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Pen1987


    Why are you asking me? I'm giving you my impression of their opinion, not my own opinion.


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