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Helmet cams?

  • 10-05-2010 11:22pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭


    I know there was a few threads about this before, non of which i've searched long enough to find, but i'm just wondering what helmet/gun cams people use, if any.

    And i've gone through one or two of those cheap supposedly good ones, but they're not, and i'm sick of them.
    So what decent tried and trusted cams do people use, and where'd you get them, if you don't mind me asking.

    Cheers!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,561 ✭✭✭andy_g


    the oregon scientific ones and there in maplins for about 60e


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭Darth Phoenix


    Being looking into this myself for a while the tachyon xc headcam is a good overall cam but its very pricey. Dont have one myself yet;) but they seem to able to take a beating and still perform...Here's a youtube video of a airsoft match with the cam used.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YItvqlzZILM&playnext_from=TL&videos=LjynyTvRlls

    hope this helps..They are cheaper ones around if you want me to link ya some

    Some reviews that may help you

    http://www.helmetcamreview.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭Sod'o swords


    Being looking into this myself for a while the tachyon xc headcam is a good overall cam but its very pricey. Dont have one myself yet;) but they seem to able to take a beating and still perform...Here's a youtube video of a airsoft match with the cam used.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YItvqlzZILM&playnext_from=TL&videos=LjynyTvRlls

    hope this helps..They are cheaper ones around if you want me to link ya some

    Some reviews that may help you

    http://www.helmetcamreview.com

    That's Exactly the sort of thing i'm looking for, in the price range i was expecting.

    Thank you very much!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭Darth Phoenix


    That's Exactly the sort of thing i'm looking for, in the price range i was expecting.

    Thank you very much!


    No worries at all mate, glad i could help. Their my next buy when funds allow. Hope to see you skirmishes on youtube soon;)...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭Sod'o swords


    No worries at all mate, glad i could help. Their my next buy when funds allow. Hope to see you skirmishes on youtube soon;)...
    Yeah i was putting bit away for a new AEG, but this is now top of the list, thanks again. Oh i'll be wearing this thing daily, my life will be on youtube.

    Wonder if she comes with the camera...
    514a1NV0FKL._SS400_.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭Darth Phoenix


    :eek:.............um ah....oh yeah ...camera...yeah



    lol;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭roryk1


    Yeah i was putting bit away for a new AEG, but this is now top of the list, thanks again. Oh i'll be wearing this thing daily, my life will be on youtube.

    Wonder if she comes with the camera...
    514a1NV0FKL._SS400_.jpg
    wat thers a camera:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭evilrobotshane


    I have an Oregon Scientific one and it'll take a beating alright, but is a little heavy and you certainly need to wear a helmet (I'm not convinced by gun-cams, helmet-mounted footage looks much better and more interesting). It seems to guzzle batteries; need to experiment further.

    By the way that lady has no arms! That must be why she needs a helmet-cam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Puding


    Have been looking for a helmet cam for some time and the upcoming trip to senny made me take some action on this front

    got luck and picked up a second hand contourhd 1080, from a guy on eBay who got it to record rides and never used it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭Sod'o swords


    Yeah after looking at both helmet and gun cam footage, i think it's safe to say looking at the ground for 50% of the time isn't all that interesting, so it'll be a helmet cam.

    I just need to get a decent helmet that can have the camera mounted, securely. I have a run of the mill helmet, but i'm not duck taping a 120€ camera to my head..

    Anyone have any suggestions on helmet to get?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭SparkyDNut


    I went down the line of the contour HD the 720 version.
    So far I have had very mixed results. Like any of these small cameras they do not like dull conditions so in dense forrest results can be hit and miss. I have tried using both HD and SD mode, and HD is worth the extra space requirements. One of the down sides of these, and I'm not sure on the specs of the helmet came, is the wide angled lens. You need to get close to the action to get anything of value.
    Luckily enough the contour comes with lots of mountings, and out of the packaging I was able to make an additional RIS mount, quick release one at that :cool: So I get best of both worlds, Helmet and Gun cam..
    Another nice feature is if you break the lens on these, it's replaceable... You can buy replacement packs.. So don't worry about those BBs whizzing by...

    For a helmet, looking at he helmet cam it has a hight centre of gravity, so stay away from the likes of the M88's they will move around way too much.. I'd suggest a foam insert helmet would be the best..
    Something like : http://www.ebairsoft.com/mich-2000-helmet-with-dummy-sopmod-mount-p-2740.html

    Video samples: Filter by my name to see the rest...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8moBC9gsRKM

    Hope this is useful..
    S


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Puding


    always a balancing act with these little cameras but if i wanted great framing and close ups i would not be using a helmet cam in the first place :)

    small test video of the contour hd, in and count of rooms with switchs of lighting ( hd option included )



    do not use a helmet myself but used elastic made into a lop can be used on its own or running round the inside of a watchcap, makes a nice stable platform

    DSC_87900001.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭Sod'o swords


    Tbh that Quality is more than enough really.
    That setup you have is interesting enough though, i'm not a huge fan of Helmets, only considering one because i was thinking it would be the most stable and secure setup. Suppose i'll play around with different mounts and such.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭flashinbluelite


    Tbh that Quality is more than enough really.
    That setup you have is interesting enough though, i'm not a huge fan of Helmets, only considering one because i was thinking it would be the most stable and secure setup. Suppose i'll play around with different mounts and such.

    Why not a shoulder mount? a strip of aluminum bend to a U shape and feed into a molle style vest, camera bolted to aluminum???

    please excuse the basic drawing, hopefully you get the idea

    [IMG][/img]vest.jpg Uploaded with ImageShack.us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Puding


    problem with that is a vest moves a lot and all of this would be transferred to the camera itself, you naturally keep your head steady self stabilization as it where, your torso/shoulder are constantly in motion when moving


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭flashinbluelite


    Puding wrote: »
    problem with that is a vest moves a lot and all of this would be transferred to the camera itself, you naturally keep your head steady self stabilization as it where, your torso/shoulder are constantly in motion when moving

    include i gyroscopic stabilizer into build and for long range video dont forget Coriolis effect damper.... :D

    i think the shoulder mount used in conjunction with a helmet mount and AEG mount and some good editing would lead to a great visual experience....

    my 2 cents (worth about 4 cents to my friends)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭OddysAirsoft


    I have just got hold of a GoPro Hero ( www.goprocamera.com )from the lads in Gotac in Bray (they sell em). This thing is amazing. I have set it up as a gun cam for this week end and you will find the videos uploaded early next week. It will give you an idea of its potential. So far with limited tests in the back garden I have been mega impressed.
    Will be back shortly with the results ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Puding


    FRUoddy wrote: »
    I have just got hold of a GoPro Hero ( www.goprocamera.com )from the lads in Gotac in Bray (they sell em). This thing is amazing. I have set it up as a gun cam for this week end and you will find the videos uploaded early next week. It will give you an idea of its potential. So far with limited tests in the back garden I have been mega impressed.
    Will be back shortly with the results ;)


    look forward to seeing the results, was looking at the gopro myself ( what model is it? ) but went with the contour in the end, specs where very similar but mounting options seemed easier with the contour as i wanted to have to head mounted over aeg mounted, how did you end up mounting it to the aeg?

    should have some test footage from the contour this weekend as well will be nice to compare


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭OddysAirsoft


    Pete in Gotac made a gucci gun mount :D The model I have is the motor-sport. Gotac have been kind to lend me this to evaluate it before I buy one. I will go for the Helmet-cam one in HD. It also comes with a head band similar to ones on a led torch. This way I will be able to mount it in different positions to get different views.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    Ive seen the met police are using a similar camera and they chose to mount it on the shoulder instead of on the head. the chap said it was a lot more stable. rarely will you be eyes forward in the same direction as the camera, so you'll often find the camera is recording a load of useless video, much like a gun cam.

    I think i remember shane using one in HRTA, and ended up with loads of video of the grass. lol


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Puding


    Masada wrote: »
    Ive seen the met police are using a similar camera and they chose to mount it on the shoulder instead of on the head. the chap said it was a lot more stable. rarely will you be eyes forward in the same direction as the camera, so you'll often find the camera is recording a load of useless video, much like a gun cam.

    I think i remember shane using one in HRTA, and ended up with loads of video of the grass. lol

    never seen that myself but its interesting do you have any more information? seen the seen a lot of head mounted camera used by police in the uk to record conversation and arrests in case there needed in court

    but have to agree seen equally as much good helmet cam fotage as bad, same with gun camera footage the quality can very greatly

    i know what your saying about people not turning there head, i find thought that i do turn my head as i always wear glasses so my peripheral vision is of little to know use, no have to turn my head :)

    i do not think there is any ideal solution all have there ups and downs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭OddysAirsoft


    The secret to filming good footage is to take lots of it so that you can edit it properly so you keep the 'grass' shots to a minimum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Puding


    had a look around, was able to find a little bit of information on them, example:

    http://www.newtownabbeytoday.co.uk/Register.aspx?ReturnURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newtownabbeytoday.co.uk%2Fnews%2FCOPS-WITH-CAMERAS.5544715.jp

    they seem to be more tailored for the interview style videos rather than recording action, but worth a try

    real work helmet footage


    airsoft footage helmet mount from the mall


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Puding


    FRUoddy wrote: »
    The secret to filming good footage is to take lots of it so that you can edit it properly so you keep the 'grass' shots to a minimum.

    trick with any digital media :) take loads of photos or video and sort thought it at a later date rather than trying to get that one perfect picture, its my i love my digital slr, i would say for every picture i use i must throw out at least 10 or more


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭gian


    i use the MUVI VEHO minicam got it from ebay really nice and for 90e (inc accessories) its a really a value and deadly aswell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭fletch...


    Interesting thread! just waiting on delivery of a contour 1080p myself so will be interesting to see what we all come out with, cant wait !!! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭Darth Phoenix


    fletch... wrote: »
    Interesting thread! just waiting on delivery of a contour 1080p myself so will be interesting to see what we all come out with, cant wait !!! :D

    Be sure to post up some test footage of it mate:D, would love to see the quality from that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭Puding


    Be sure to post up some test footage of it mate:D, would love to see the quality from that

    posted a little test from my contour 1080 earlyer in the thread if you interested

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=65833158&postcount=13

    should have some footage from game play this weekend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭fletch...


    looks like they handle light changes fairly well,
    My first test will be point of view footage of me getting my ass kicked up and down the street by my missus for spending silly moneys on more toys :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭Darth Phoenix


    Puding wrote: »
    posted a little test from my contour 1080 earlyer in the thread if you interested

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=65833158&postcount=13

    should have some footage from game play this weekend


    Aw cool thank you..;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭OddysAirsoft


    Ok here it is lads.....remember its not shot in HD so bit grainy
    This is filmed at The Quarry on a gun cam for a different perspective.

    Enjoy






  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Puding wrote: »
    trick with any digital media :) take loads of photos or video and sort thought it at a later date rather than trying to get that one perfect picture, its my i love my digital slr, i would say for every picture i use i must throw out at least 10 or more

    Unfortunately it also takes bloody ages :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭fletch...


    Great stuff there from from the Gopro! Try it in full quality!!!!
    The contour 1080p arrived this moring, gotta say im blown away by the quality from such a small cam. Why oh why is it only monday, just want to be skirmishing it now :D



    I hate Mondays :mad::mad::mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Ross_Mahon


    I bought an 'Extreme Action Sports Cam' from MIA, Had the lens blown out the first day using it, Not working at all, Is there anything actually durable?


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