Shotgun reccomendation......what are my chances?

patakadarragh

Hi everyone,
Ill soon be 16 and atm im hatching a few pheasants etc.
anyways looking for reccomendations on a first shotgun....its a lot f money for me and i dont want to get a useless yoke......any suggestions??

Also what are my chances of getting the licence...we have land,i can get lots of permissions,and ill join the local gun club.


thanks all,

Darragh

Cass

Whats your budget?

patakadarragh

oh yes em ill probably look for something second hand.....maybe 600 tops

Dusty87

I got a Lanber as my first gun not too long ago. Still have it. Well in your price range. I find it great. Never any trouble, its very sturdy. Great first gun imo. Iv heard they heat very quick iff your busting clays but iv fired 100 cartridges in a half day session and no problems.

patakadarragh

oh right ill take that name down..... i wouldnt be doing any intensive clay shooting...just a little bit mainly rough shooting etc.
Any ideas on my chances of getting the licence or is it down to the super.
Thanks

Dusty87

Depends on the place and super i think.
You said youve land and can get permissions so there should be no problems. All the better if you can join the club or at least get insurance. Not sure what the story is with your age. There shouldnt be problem. It took nearly 4 months for my shotgun licence to come through but just over two weeks for my first rifle, a .223, and that was over the christmas hols:eek:

patakadarragh

yes they can be right slow sometimes the father is was waiting since march last yr for a new .22 got a call in november to say they had "no record" of the application in other words they had lost it so waiting since then and recently they say the pulse wasnt coming up on the machine anyway they sorted that out eventually and its coming through now.

Cass

My own personal choices would be,

A) Bettinsoli. Over/Under. Offshoot of beretta company. While not "fully" up to Beretta standards still a damn fine shotgun and at around €850 new you should pick a very good quality second hand one for €600 or less.

Beretta. Semi auto. The semi auto Urika. New cost around €1,000. Second hand in and around the 600 mark. Good quality and reliable. Also has that extra (3rd) shot that makes for a fun days shooting.

C) Remington. Semi Auto. Either a second hand 11-87 or a new 870. Good enough quality, cheap (second hand 11-87 and new 870 in or around the €600 mark max.), and both are semi auto also.

D) Baikal. Over/Under. A decent quality starter shotgun. Of a "rugged" build, but from all reports reliable and at €600 or less for a new one a good starting point.

If you raised or could your budget to €1000 you open a other world of options, but really as you are starting out the budget you set is a good one. No point buying an expensive firearm for your first. Buy low and make all your mistakes on it. In other words if you scratch a €3,000 Beretta you'll be pissed (take it from experience), but not so much with a cheaper firearm.

patakadarragh wrote:

Any ideas on my chances of getting the licence or is it down to the super

Its always down to the Super, but i know what you're saying. You will need to do a competency course before any license is granted. Check here (bottom right corner under "facilities") and here for details. Do one of these or at least be signed up to one before submitting your application.


Lastly, best of luck lad.

patsat

they may want you to do a firearms safety course since you are new to the sport and at a young age.Maybe take your da in with you to show them your serious and will be in good hands.

Best of luck with it!

patakadarragh

Thanks everyone

s-cogan

was in same position as yourself recently.
i found the baikal have a very chunky grip, but it depends on you.
find a gun that fits you, then maybe you could ask a few lads here what they think of the gun and its asking price, and then see.

puheen

Good man Darragh,
its great to see young lads getting into this life style of rearing fowl and getting involved in field sports. You are embarking on one of the most enjoyable ways of spending your free time. You are getting good advice here as usual and joining your local club will be definitely the way to go as you can do the nargc proficientcey course. Best of luck

patakadarragh

Yes i really enjoy the fieldsports.

Thanks again all.

homerhop

What I would say to you as I have said to anyone starting shooting, get to know some of the local lads in the gun club and see will they give you a few shots out of their guns at a some clays or a local flapper, most lads will be fairly keen to help a lad starting out and you may get a few handy pointers on improving your stance. See what gun you feel comfortable with and find you are shooting well with then take it from there. There is no point spending your hard earned cash on something that only suits your pocket but not you when shooting.
Best of luck with it and safe shooting in the future.

yank_in_eire

ezridax wrote: »

My own personal choices would be,


C) Remington. Semi Auto. Either a second hand 11-87 or a new 870. Good enough quality, cheap (second hand 11-87 and new 870 in or around the €600 mark max.), and both are semi auto also.

D)

Might want to check that out - I'd bet my left nad that the 870 is a pump. Ah what the heck, I'll bet both of them!;)

Cass

yank_in_eire wrote: »

....... - I'd bet my left nad that the 870 is a pump.

Correct. A typo, my mistake.



**EDIT** Just after re-reading your last post. I mis-read it and have altered my post accordingly. You may keep both nads.

elius

Go to your local and try a few differant type's explain how much your looking to spend.
As mention before im dead set against buying over expensive shotguns as if you damage them you get pissed well i would anyway. :D

johngalway

elius wrote: »

Go to your local and try a few differant type's explain how much your looking to spend.
As mention before im dead set against buying over expensive shotguns as if you damage them you get pissed well i would anyway. :D

I agree. Fed up hearing about tiny scratches to shiny guns. If you want it for working, buy something appropriate not a penis envy accessory

kenneths

well i seen a yildiz in the NARGC's magazine for €575 comes with cartridge belt, game bag, cartridge bag & a gun slip.

this model....
http://www.yildizshotgun.com/02e.html

called my local and they will match that so i'll be getting this on saturday to start out rough shooting with the odd bit for clays at home.
seems like a good offer to me

elius

johngalway wrote: »

I agree. Fed up hearing about tiny scratches to shiny guns. If you want it for working, buy something appropriate not a penis envy accessory

Couldn't put it better myself.