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It is time to follow the guidelines/rules
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09-05-2010 11:17pm#1
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Couldn't have said it better myself Xiney
OP, you have to realise that mods are volunteers, they cant follow every single post in every thread. The report button is there for that reason and the PM feature, you should take action on such posts by reporting them. This is a community after all
I personally think the mods of this forum do an excellent job and are probably the most lenient on here
I take my hat off to you mods0 -
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I don't like telltales but as most people here will know I think boards.ie in general is totally over modded, I do hate photographs being quoted though!
So I agree with everyone.
I notice it's the Mods on this thread here who blindingly sing from the same boards consitution hymn sheet.0 -
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Does anyone else think the limit on the random thread should be upped to 1024px? Surely everyone here is using a decent resolution screen now...?
For certain shots, ie panaramas and those narrow rectangle shot ala
Normally to meet the size here you just copy n paste extra 'large' from pixie but the above photo is 'very large' option.0 -
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You have a limit?there's also the fact that I don't want to waste my bandwidth
what isp are you with? www.darkages.ie?
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First up, I'm sorry I haven't had time to respond to this earlier. As noted elsewhere, we're volunteers and I am not on boards 24-7Reading through various threads in the Photography forum lately it appears that various guidelines/rules are being ignored by posters.
examples: Images too large, quoting images and challenge deadlines etc.
I feel in my opinion that Moderators are not as fair or evenhanded as they should be when dealing with certain posts.
I enjoy Boards.ie and in particular the Photography forum but lately there are far too many threads sliding into unsavoury tit for tat posting. Just my thoughts and I won't be saying anymore on this subject.
I appreciate this. There are two problems here and possibly a lot of is cultural. There have been some nasty threads here and I have some trouble finding a balance between being a draconian mod supernazi and playing advantage if you like to take a rugby call on it. It is, however, a hard call and I'd note, by the way that I've been heavily criticised in the past for jumping in too quickly.
It would help us a lot if people reported posts though because while it would be desirable to read each and every post, it's hard and especially it's hard to do it in a timely manner. It also gives me a better feel for where the user communite sees the limits.yeah and this is hardly the place to be discussing any problems you might have with the modding of the site this is the photography forum.
Mods are people just like you sitting at a computer making a contribution even if they are doing what you say they are doing you need to cut them some slack.
Typically this gets discussed in Feedback and in fact, Photography has been discussed quite a few times there in the last 18 months.I think he has raised a good point worth having a discussion about what so bad about that ? Heaven forbid.
Well there's also a balance to be found between the desires of the people who run the site and the desires of people who march onto this site.magicbastarder wrote: »there are too many rules and regulations around here, not too few.
While you could argue that, part of the reason for that is that they have gotten evaluated as people run them ragged, overstep the mark or do things which ultimately cause problems. That being said, the overwhelming majority of users don't ever come anywhere close to trashing through them, or trolling or being plain difficult.AnimalRights wrote: »I don't like telltales but as most people here will know I think boards.ie in general is totally over modded, I do hate photographs being quoted though!
So I agree with everyone.
I notice it's the Mods on this thread here who blindingly sing from the same boards consitution hymn sheet.
I think you're incorrect here. Most of the support that I have read thus far does not come from mods. However, my past experience is that those who whinge most about overmodding are those who've caused the greatest amount of complaints from the user community and headaches for the mods.Does anyone else think the limit on the random thread should be upped to 1024px? Surely everyone here is using a decent resolution screen now...?
We looked at this last year - I stopped modding for abotu 6 months but just prior to stopping I did look at the possibly of raising the limit to 1000pixels or 1024. Currently the charter provides for 800 although very often, that gets quietly ignored if people are good enough to mark the subject headers comments about large images.
I recognise that this is the photography forum with a special interest, however; against that we have to balance the problem that leaving aside download caps and 3G mobile broadband, there are still quite a few people on dial up and thus there are some site wide guidelines about large images.
Random is a special case because it is a massively heavy post from the point of view of content. Where a C&C might have 3 or 4 photographs to load, Random tends to grow to around 1200-1500 posts at times and depending on which settings you have for boards could be loading between 20 and 40 images.
I could see us raising the bar to 1024 for non-random threads but for those threads where we have a large number of images inline, I would still consider it desirable to implement local thread rules.I brought up the idea before about having a seperate thread for panorama photos with no horizontal limit, was going to start it when next I had one to offer!
I'm okay with that in principle provided the thread is marked as containing large images.Captain Flaps wrote: »I don't think it needs to be a nasty thread if everyone keeps it civil and it doesn't descend into a shouty mob waving pitchforks and nifty-fiftys at eachother.
I agree and hope that this will be the case.Captain Flaps wrote: »In my experience, this is one of the better-moderated subforums on boards. There are several I stopped posting in because I got sick of stay on-topic or this thread will be closed posts the second you posted something that didn't directly reference the OP. I haven't seen much stubborn over-moderation here, so I don't really have any complaints on that front. That said, I haven't been posting here too long.
I have been guilty of that on certain occasions but not all that often here lately. Part of that is that it tends not to be so necessary.Captain Flaps wrote: »I do think that a thread like this is more conducive to keeping things in the open than PMing a mod (who may be the one you have problems with, and who may ignore you) but pixbyjohn, I think you need to be more specific about the issues you're having in order for this to be a constructive message rather than just a general moan.
Sometimes a general moan works though.Captain Flaps wrote: »As far as the image thing goes, I'm a mod on another site that has threads like this and trying to get people to re-host or resize their images is horribly time-consuming. For some reason I actually though images here were limited to 800 pixels on the longest side; I'm not sure why, but I thought this was the case.
The charter allows for 800 although I tend turn a blind eye provided it's not done in the Random Thread which reiterates the rule in the title. That being said, where they are over the top, the posts get deleted.point remains, though. I'm sure I'm not the only person browsing this forum who has a limit on bandwidth and/or a less than rapid connection. (Some of the crap that passes for broadband in Ireland comes to mind!)
and dial-up. i don't know what the current stats are but a couple of years ago about 45% of browsers on the site were still on dial up which stunned me.I'm on 3 Mobile Broadband here, the limit is 15GBs but they're dropping it to 10GBs in June. I used 14.6GBs last month:o
With the best will in the world, discussions about broadband speeds from here on in will get moved to the off topic post.
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By and large I try to keep as low a profile as possible for a couple of reasons. I don't like disrupting threads as far as possible. I don't necessarily like the whole rules thing having had a lot of unhappy "but I didn't break any rules" trolls over the last 2 or 3 years that I've been modding here and on C&T. Basically if you treat the community with some modicum of respect, it's hard to draw my attention so if you do either it's very, very good or very bad. Your call.
I realise that if you're a user per se and you don't know what the mods are up to because they're cleaning up messes or quietly infracting and banning spammers etc, you might not realise how much work can go into making this a green and pleasant place.
I would say however that a forum - to some extent - moves with its posters and as they change, so it changes and we have to take account of that.
It really would help me and I guess the other mods an awful lot, if people flagged problems to us. I don't always pick up on it immediately without that assistance.
If anyone has any questions, I'd be pleased to try and answer. Now I need to go and have a look at the competitions thread.0 -
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AnimalRights wrote: »Aye, with my 4k+ posts i'm a beacon of responsibility and matureness.
Ah, but you're the exception that proves the rule
Actually I have no real idea what that phrase means ...0 -
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DaireQuinlan wrote: »Ah, but you're the exception that proves the rule
Actually I have no real idea what that phrase means ...
It means the existence of a definition of a special case or exception implies that there is a rule to be excepted from, although its de facto meaning seems to be "shut up".0 -
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Staying on topic in threads is what pretty much killed the Pro Wrestling forum a year or so ago. It's back up a bit nowadays buy still not as busy as aout two years ago (there was a big fiasco on there).
Anyway, threads have to go off topic. Fair enough, if it's a C+C then it's rare it'd go off topic, but I don't think any threads I've made on here (with the exception of C+C as per above) have stayed on topic, and I can happily say I've spent money on unnecessary crap because of it
A thread about night time photography made me end up wanting a tripod. A tripod thread a while ago made me want a camera bag. A neck-strap thread a while back made me get two new neck straps and discovered hand grips. A thread on what to look for in second hand cameras made me realise I needed UV filters and want a flash gun.
It's the off topic nature of the forum that makes it so good in my opinion. Most of the things I ask on this forum (or other people ask, and I view curiously) descend into a topic about something different and they make for great reading and are often very informative.
This time last year (literally, I bought my first DSLR in June 2009) I hadn't got a clue about DSLR photography. Actually, at the start of this year I still hadn't got a clue. But it's this forum that has helped me get into debt buying things I didn't need, and that's a great thing in my opinion.0 -
@Calina
You say to flag the post, so, for example quoting pics in the random thread annoys the ** out of me, you are saying to report that post? I just always thought actual reporting is a bit harsh for a "silly" offense like quoting pics. And I also thought it would be a pain for the mods to get all those reports
Anyho, mental note made.0 -
@Calina
You say to flag the post, so, for example quoting pics in the random thread annoys the ** out of me, you are saying to report that post? I just always thought actual reporting is a bit harsh for a "silly" offense like quoting pics. And I also thought it would be a pain for the mods to get all those reports
Anyho, mental note made.
I can't speak for Callina, but for my own forums, as a mod I'd much rather get a reported post than have to find it on my own.
Reporting posts is a very helpful thing to do!0 -
@Calina
You say to flag the post, so, for example quoting pics in the random thread annoys the ** out of me, you are saying to report that post? I just always thought actual reporting is a bit harsh for a "silly" offense like quoting pics. And I also thought it would be a pain for the mods to get all those reports
Anyho, mental note made.
Yes, afraid so. It's the quickest way of attracting the post's attention to a mod, unfortunately and yes I know it's silly but it's necessary.
In the early days we used to try and resize. Now we just delete. The more that happens, the less the rule gets broken.0 -
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