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Grammar

  • 09-05-2010 12:33am
    #1
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    In today's society scares me. Anyone? I got a response from Eircom yesterday regarding my internet problems:

    Hi, I talked to BB tech suppoirt and the d/cs & nterleaving? settings are ok. Tech support suggested to give then a call, but given your line is clasified amber as we disscussed before, there is very little we can do to improve the service. Mark


    I mean seriously... How am I meant to take that seriously when I paid more attention fixing his errors. Or am I crazy?

    Yeah, I am.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭Pinturicchio


    Your first mistake was in your second word. It should be "today's".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Shouldn't your username start with a capital letter?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 373 ✭✭The Express


    In todays society scares me. Anyone? I got a respsonse from Eircom yesterday regarding my internet problems:

    Hi, I talked to BB tech suppoirt and the d/cs & nterleaving? settings are ok. Tech support suggested to give then a call, but given your line is clasified amber as we disscussed before, there is very little we can do to improve the service. Mark


    I mean seriously... How am I meant to take that seriously when I paid more attention fixing his errors. Or am I crazy?

    Yeah, I am.

    Indeed.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Forgive me, for I am drunk and retarded.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Ok, but seriously, why do we harass people with bad grammar? I understand txt speak, it's very annoying, but why do people enjoy to point out other people's mistakes?

    (God, that took too much concentrating. *stops drinking*)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Forgive me, for I am retarded.

    FYP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Ok, but seriously, why do we harass people with bad grammar? I understand txt speak, it's very annoying, but why do people enjoy to point out other people's mistakes?

    (God, that took too much concentrating. *stops drinking*)

    Shouldn't you be worrying about your drinking problem?


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Shouldn't you be worrying about your drinking problem?

    What's wrong with a few Captain Morgan and cokes after work? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Eircom!

    You deserve everything you get! I have this company myself:

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭PhysiologyRocks


    My favourite kind of grammar is country grammar.

    It sounds like I'm talking about those who live in rural areas.

    I am actually making a reference to a rap song by Nelly.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭segaBOY


    Why didn't you just ask for Jim? He seems to be one of the more helpful of the guys in the office.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,076 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    What we have here is a failure to communicate. :cool:

    I like grammar, for the simple reason that it allows me to communicate precisely what I mean. In the previous sentence, for example, the comma after "grammar" serves the same function as a slight pause would if I was speaking: it places a slight emphasis on the fact that I like grammar. Sometimes my message is subtle, so I have to use some specific grammatical tricks, such as ... the ellipsis.

    In short: we write to communicate a message, and grammar is one of the ways in which we fine-tune that message. If your message is always as blunt as a newspaper headline, and never needs fine-tuning, then you probably don't need grammar. Or punctuation. Or vocabulary. And I don't need to read it. And yes, I know that one should not start English sentences with coordinating conjunctions, but I did it for dramatic effect, so :P.

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭Dunjohn


    Ok, but seriously, why do we harass people with bad grammar? I understand txt speak, it's very annoying, but why do people enjoy to point out other people's mistakes?

    But.... You just.... This is your thread!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    In today's society scares me. Anyone? I got a response from Eircom yesterday regarding my internet problems:

    Hi, I talked to BB tech suppoirt and the d/cs & nterleaving? settings are ok. Tech support suggested to give then a call, but given your line is clasified amber as we disscussed before, there is very little we can do to improve the service. Mark


    I mean seriously... How am I meant to take that seriously when I paid more attention fixing his errors. Or am I crazy?

    Yeah, I am.

    Aren't those mostly spelling mistakes not grammar mistakes ??


    Ah grammar. The one topic where Godwin's Law does not apply


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Aren't those mostly spelling mistakes not grammar mistakes ??


    Ah grammar. The one topic where Godwin's Law does not apply

    You think?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 977 ✭✭✭Abrasax


    Aren't those mostly spelling mistakes not grammar mistakes ??


    Ah grammar. The one topic where Godwin's Law does not apply
    Is it not tecnically invoked every time the 'Grammer Nazis' step in?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Forgive me, for I am drunk and retarded.

    Unfortunately, drunkenness is the only temporary condition there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Benny Lava


    I'd like to think that I'm not a grammar Nazi, but it really annoys me when people say "I done that yesterday" or "I seen him yesterday".

    Learn to ****ing speak!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭bluto63


    I knew someone called Grammer once. Ironically, he had fairly poor grammar.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    bluto63 wrote: »
    I knew someone called Grammer once. Ironically, he had fairly poor grammar.

    ...and he probably couldn't spell his name correctly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    bnt wrote: »
    What we have here is a failure to communicate. :cool:

    I like grammar, for the simple reason that it allows me to communicate precisely what I mean. In the previous sentence, for example, the comma after "grammar" serves the same function as a slight pause would if I was speaking: it places a slight emphasis on the fact that I like grammar. Sometimes my message is subtle, so I have to use some specific grammatical tricks, such as ... the ellipsis.

    In short: we write to communicate a message, and grammar is one of the ways in which we fine-tune that message. If your message is always as blunt as a newspaper headline, and never needs fine-tuning, then you probably don't need grammar. Or punctuation. Or vocabulary. And I don't need to read it. And yes, I know that one should not start English sentences with coordinating conjunctions, but I did it for dramatic effect, so :P.

    I'd have stuck an auld comma after the 'here' mesell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    Dunjohn wrote: »
    But.... You just.... This is your thread!


    I'm confused!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭sideshowsue


    What gets me is when people write 'taught' when they really meant 'thought'. It totally wrecks my head and makes my eyes bleed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    was listening to the radio and the newsreader said that yer man who tried to bomb times square was a "neutralised" american citizen.


    neutralised? naturalised, you idiot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    What gets me is when people write 'taught' when they really meant 'thought'. It totally wrecks my head and makes my eyes bleed.

    Yes but there always write when they right a comment, notice that the grammar is wrong, and leave it their!

    Editing it would be rude


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    What gets me is when people write 'taught' when they really meant 'thought'. It totally wrecks my head and makes my eyes bleed.

    Are you sure you don't have trachoma ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭sideshowsue


    Are you sure you don't have trachoma ??

    Ebola.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭Damo123


    I mean seriously... How am I meant to take that seriously when I paid more attention fixing his errors.
    Ok, but seriously, why do we harass people with bad grammar? ...... but why do people enjoy to point out other people's mistakes?

    Contradicting yourself..???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Damo123 wrote: »
    Contradicting yourself..???

    It's called turning one's canoe to go with the changing tide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    "What you walking about, Tillis?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,084 ✭✭✭dubtom


    Ok, but seriously, why do we harass people with bad grammar? I understand txt speak, it's very annoying, but why do people enjoy to point out other people's mistakes?

    (God, that took too much concentrating. *stops drinking*)

    Neck like a jockeys bollix you have.
    How do you spell Owned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    Xiney wrote: »
    was listening to the radio and the newsreader said that yer man who tried to bomb times square was a "neutralised" american citizen.


    neutralised? naturalised, you idiot.

    Nah, they castrated him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,838 ✭✭✭Nulty


    Your first mistake was in your second word. It should be "today's".

    Ouch, you beat yourself up much?

    Your thinking of the case where the Dolmio man says

    "Today's the day"

    That means there ought to be an "is" after the "Today".

    "Todays newpaper" doesn't have and apostrophe.

    (Im in self loathing for pointing this out :()


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭krpc


    In today's society scares me. Anyone? I got a response from Eircom yesterday regarding my internet problems:

    Hi, I talked to BB tech suppoirt and the d/cs & nterleaving? settings are ok. Tech support suggested to give then a call, but given your line is clasified amber as we disscussed before, there is very little we can do to improve the service. Mark

    I mean seriously... How am I meant to take that seriously when I paid more attention fixing his errors. Or am I crazy?
    Yeah, I am.

    Forgive me, for I am drunk and retarded.

    He gets paid to be a retard. So, technically speaking, who is the smarter person (retard)?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,076 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    I'd have stuck an auld comma after the 'here' mesell.
    It's a movie reference, and I remembered that there was no comma, but I didn't get the rest quite right. Never mind. :rolleyes:

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    Dunjohn wrote: »
    But.... You just.... This is your thread!

    Muphry's law strikes again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭James G


    Benny Lava wrote: »
    I'd like to think that I'm not a grammar Nazi, but it really annoys me when people say "I done that yesterday" or "I seen him yesterday".

    Learn to ****ing speak!
    + "I didn't do nothing", makes me facepalm every time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    segaBOY wrote: »
    Why didn't you just ask for Jim? He seems to be one of the more helpful of the guys in the office.

    Jim is a muppet!

    He's convinced that after someone has pulled out ALL the wires pressing "reset" will fix everything!

    I'm with the OP on the standard of grammar, spelling and punctuation, though

    If someone sends me something in "txtspk" they're lucky if I reply asking them to send it again in English.

    It's lazy, ignorant and unprofessional.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    James G wrote: »
    + "I didn't do nothing", makes me facepalm every time.

    No no, what REALLY gets to me is the use of "Was".

    "We wasn't even there, we was somewhere else" etc.

    Although it's always on UK tv shows like Eastenders and the like.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭krpc


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    No no, what REALLY gets to me is the use of "Was".

    "We wasn't even there, we was somewhere else" etc.

    Although it's always on UK tv shows like Eastenders and the like.

    Or the removal of "to the" or "the" from a sentence: "I'm goin' shop", "I'm goin' pub."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Nulty wrote: »
    Ouch, you beat yourself up much?

    Your thinking of the case where the Dolmio man says

    "Today's the day"

    That means there ought to be an "is" after the "Today".

    "Todays newpaper" doesn't have and apostrophe.

    (Im in self loathing for pointing this out :()

    Sorry, you're wrong, he's right...
    bnt wrote: »
    What we have here is a failure to communicate. :cool:

    I like grammar, for the simple reason that it allows me to communicate precisely what I mean. In the previous sentence, for example, the comma after "grammar" serves the same function as a slight pause would if I was speaking: it places a slight emphasis on the fact that I like grammar. Sometimes my message is subtle, so I have to use some specific grammatical tricks, such as ... the ellipsis.
    :P.

    http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/were.html if you really want to be picky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭Dunjohn


    Nulty wrote: »
    Ouch, you beat yourself up much?

    Your thinking of the case where the Dolmio man says

    "Today's the day"

    That means there ought to be an "is" after the "Today".

    "Todays newpaper" doesn't have and apostrophe.

    (Im in self loathing for pointing this out :()

    It should. Apostrophes denote both the abbreviative s and the possessive s. Without an apostrophe, "todays" is just plural and makes no sense.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Some candidates for Spell Czechs emerging. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Dunjohn wrote: »
    It should. Apostrophes denote both the abbreviative s and the possessive s. Without an apostrophe, "todays" is just plural and makes no sense.

    +1

    I think what confused Nulty is the fact that the word "it" has an exception to the dual-use "possessive" & ".....is"

    Today's is correct for both

    But

    "It's" always means "it is", while
    "Its" is used for stuff like "The dog chased its tail"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    In today's society scares me. Anyone? I got a response from Eircom yesterday regarding my internet problems:

    Hi, I talked to BB tech suppoirt and the d/cs & nterleaving? settings are ok. Tech support suggested to give then a call, but given your line is clasified amber as we disscussed before, there is very little we can do to improve the service. Mark


    I mean seriously... How am I meant to take that seriously when I paid more attention fixing his errors. Or am I crazy?

    Yeah, I am.

    Hmm...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭Erica<3


    You're not crazy. Whatever the situation, bad spelling and bad grammar sticks out like a sore thumb to me and it really, really annoys me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭questioner


    Erica<3 wrote: »
    You're not crazy. Whatever the situation, bad spelling and bad grammar sticks out like a sore thumb to me and it really, really annoys me.


    Should that not be "bad spelling and bad grammar stick out like a sore thumb"?


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