Fibre Power Line

frankymail

Question?

With eircom upgrading exchanges across the country to enable "fibre power" and the likes will this mean that services from UPC and other potential service providers will benefit along side.

Basically will UPC be using the eircom fibre power lines to deliver their broadband, tv and phone services to customers across the country?

DingDong

UPC already has its own fibre network in place(some locations about ten years) and never used eircom's network. Not that eircom would sell them dark fibre anyway.

Freddie59

frankymail wrote: »

eircom fibre power

:rolleyes::D

frankymail

I don't get it?

Ranicand

frankymail wrote: »

I don't get it?

UPC use a cable linked to fiber.

Eircom use copper wire linked to fiber at some point.

UPC and Eircom do not share the same network.

UPC is not perfect but Eircom is a joke.

All UPC traffic goes up and down the TV cable and the majority of this run is now fiber.

paulm17781

Ranicand wrote: »

Eircom use copper wire linked to fiber at some point.

Eircom have been updating their core network, while their current offering is a joke, that's not to say it isn't the start of something, I believe it is similar in design to UPCs. The copper will be a problem for some time though.

yuloni

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Solair

From what I gather all eircom is doing at the moment is moving to an all ip network and adding extra capacity to their broadband backbone network.

Eircom's using the "fibre powered" buzzword but, it doesn't mean much.

Their network has been fibre powered since the 1980s the problem is the couple of km of twisted pair between your house and their exchange.

All eircom NGB means in the medium term is an end to congestion at peak hours. It will be similar to services that Smart & magnet have offered for years on their unbundled DSL services. Theoretical 24 mbits but, depending on how far you are from the exchange more typically 15 mbits max

Eircom's currently got two core networks - a modern IP network which broadband runs on and a legacy ATM/SDH network which handles voice and ISDN data traffic.

The voice/isdn exchanges get an additional few aditional cards on their racks which allow them to work over an IP network using carrier-grade VoIP etc .. End users will hear absolutely no difference.

However, it means the existing fibre network can become vastly more efficient and they can offer more reliable broadband speeds.

Ultimately, they will start rolling out fibre to the kerb similar to UPC fibre-power areas I.e. Fibre optics running to a cabinet on the street and provide your voice & phone services from a "mini exchange" located in that box.

Because the line is shorter to your home, they can offer higher speeds.
That is currently being trialled in Knocklion in Dublin.

In the short-medium term however, all this "fibre power" means is that they've removed the backhaul bottlenecks!

Compared to cable, eircom's network is Constrained by the fact that the last mile is just a phone line as opposed to a high-bandwidth coax line on cable.

DSL maxes out at 24mbit/s
Cable can easily do 150mbit/s

don't fall for spin

djimi

Condi wrote: »

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I think its just a stamp that the post office are putting on. I got a handwritten envelope the other day with a UPC stamp on it and was wondering why UPC were sending me something handwritten until it turned out to be a letter from my landlord!

zilog_jones

I think UPC have an advertising spot on the postmarks (possibly to raise awareness of the rebranding), but as we've seen here their intentions are not very clear.

frankymail

Solair wrote: »

From what I gather all eircom is doing at the moment is moving to an all ip network and adding extra capacity to their broadband backbone network.

Eircom's using the "fibre powered" buzzword but, it doesn't mean much.

Their network has been fibre powered since the 1980s the problem is the couple of km of twisted pair between your house and their exchange.

All eircom NGB means in the medium term is an end to congestion at peak hours. It will be similar to services that Smart & magnet have offered for years on their unbundled DSL services. Theoretical 24 mbits but, depending on how far you are from the exchange more typically 15 mbits max

Eircom's currently got two core networks - a modern IP network which broadband runs on and a legacy ATM/SDH network which handles voice and ISDN data traffic.

The voice/isdn exchanges get an additional few aditional cards on their racks which allow them to work over an IP network using carrier-grade VoIP etc .. End users will hear absolutely no difference.

However, it means the existing fibre network can become vastly more efficient and they can offer more reliable broadband speeds.

Ultimately, they will start rolling out fibre to the kerb similar to UPC fibre-power areas I.e. Fibre optics running to a cabinet on the street and provide your voice & phone services from a "mini exchange" located in that box.

Because the line is shorter to your home, they can offer higher speeds.
That is currently being trialled in Knocklion in Dublin.

In the short-medium term however, all this "fibre power" means is that they've removed the backhaul bottlenecks!

Compared to cable, eircom's network is Constrained by the fact that the last mile is just a phone line as opposed to a high-bandwidth coax line on cable.

DSL maxes out at 24mbit/s
Cable can easily do 150mbit/s

don't fall for spin

hahah thanks, that was interesting. Sound

fitzy94

Solair wrote: »

From what I gather all eircom is doing at the moment is moving to an all ip network and adding extra capacity to their broadband backbone network.

Eircom's using the "fibre powered" buzzword but, it doesn't mean much.

Their network has been fibre powered since the 1980s the problem is the couple of km of twisted pair between your house and their exchange.

All eircom NGB means in the medium term is an end to congestion at peak hours. It will be similar to services that Smart & magnet have offered for years on their unbundled DSL services. Theoretical 24 mbits but, depending on how far you are from the exchange more typically 15 mbits max

Eircom's currently got two core networks - a modern IP network which broadband runs on and a legacy ATM/SDH network which handles voice and ISDN data traffic.

The voice/isdn exchanges get an additional few aditional cards on their racks which allow them to work over an IP network using carrier-grade VoIP etc .. End users will hear absolutely no difference.

However, it means the existing fibre network can become vastly more efficient and they can offer more reliable broadband speeds.

Ultimately, they will start rolling out fibre to the kerb similar to UPC fibre-power areas I.e. Fibre optics running to a cabinet on the street and provide your voice & phone services from a "mini exchange" located in that box.

Because the line is shorter to your home, they can offer higher speeds.
That is currently being trialled in Knocklion in Dublin.

In the short-medium term however, all this "fibre power" means is that they've removed the backhaul bottlenecks!

Compared to cable, eircom's network is Constrained by the fact that the last mile is just a phone line as opposed to a high-bandwidth coax line on cable.

DSL maxes out at 24mbit/s
Cable can easily do 150mbit/s

don't fall for spin

I dislike eircom strongly. My so called 3meg package is rubbish (never seen my speeds above 700kb/s*when downloading)
I am thinking of changing to UPC 15mb/s + its UNLIMITED and it sounds more reliable than eircoms piece of s**t

What do you think i should do im also expecting the NGB Broadband after the summer which would upgrade me to 8megs

What do you think i should do???