Mavic Ksyrium Elite 2008 for €200

Crippens1

This bikeshop has posted the following in eBay for 2008 Ksyrium Elites. They're for new wheels in silver and they charge €19 for delivery to Ireland. Does anyone know why I shouldn't get the credit card out of the freezer?
http://cgi.ebay.ie/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370375123959&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

ten speed racer

If I wasn't so utterly broke at the moment, I'd be very tempted. (Who'd have thought having a baby was expensive? Actually, that's not entirely true, it's more--who knew maternity pay was so crap?)

They do sound suspiciously cheap though...

too_sleepy

My German isn't very good but is it for both wheels. CRC list these at over 200 for one.
There history on Ebay looks good. I'd buy if it was both wheels.

Crippens1

I've just bought these . I'll post again once I get them on the delivery times and quality of the wheels in case anyone else is interested - they've listed 9 pairs available.

shapez

Just to make people aware they are the 700C that is the most common we all use.

Gavin

shapez wrote: »

Just to make people aware they are the 700C that is the most common we all use.

Racialist!

levitronix

Crippens1 wrote: »

This bikeshop has posted the following in eBay for 2008 Ksyrium Elites. They're for new wheels in silver and they charge €19 for delivery to Ireland. Does anyone know why I shouldn't get the credit card out of the freezer?
http://cgi.ebay.ie/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370375123959&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

I bought my wheels last year from an ebay shop in germany for similiar money, seems once something new comes out in germany they sell the old stuff for dirt ... go for it !!

Lemag

The lighter Mavic Ksyrium Elite Wheels 2010 are available on CRC for €236 with postage free within the R.O.I. Surely worth the additional €19 http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=30809

barrabus

Lemag wrote: »

The lighter Mavic Ksyrium Elite Wheels 2010 are available on CRC for €236 with postage free within the R.O.I. Surely worth the additional €19 http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=30809

if you want them for your unicycle perhaps...

gaffmaster

I am still relatively new to cycling.

I have a defy 4

Stupid questions time...
Would the addition of these wheels make me enjoy cycling more?
Would they make me faster?
Are rear hubs different sizes? My cassette is 8 speed - does that make a difference?

Muchos Danke Schóns

dave.obrien

gaffmaster wrote: »

I am still relatively new to cycling.

I have a defy 4

Stupid questions time...
Would the addition of these wheels make me enjoy cycling more?
Would they make me faster?
Are rear hubs different sizes? My cassette is 8 speed - does that make a difference?

Muchos Danke Schóns

Welcome to your new most expensive hobby!

The stock wheels with the defy 4 are relatively flexible and heavy, so the ksyrium's would decrease weight and increase stiffness, meaning more of your power goes into moving the bike forward, so yes, they should make you faster. Would they make you enjoy it more is entirely up to what your goals are; they should make it easier though, and few people I've ever met actively want to make their bike harder to ride!

The ksyrium's are 8 speed compatible, yeah, just make sure you go for a shimano compatible wheelset, not a campagnolo one.

barrabus

Crippens1 wrote: »

I've just bought these . I'll post again once I get them on the delivery times and quality of the wheels in case anyone else is interested - they've listed 9 pairs available.

how long did they say delivery would take?
Havent bought a set of wheel in 6 months.....

Lemag

barrabus wrote: »

if you want them for your unicycle perhaps...

Good point. Would you recommend the front or the rear for this

uberwolf

they haven't the best reviews in the world from what I've been able to find. Anyone have an accurate weight?

Lumen

uberwolf wrote: »

they haven't the best reviews in the world from what I've been able to find. Anyone have an accurate weight?

The '10s are 1555g actual according to CC, and were 80g lighter than the '09s, so that's 1635g for the '09.

The '09s saved 140g over the '08s according to bikeradar (i.e. Mavic), so that would put the '08s at 1775g.

Of course Mavic could be lying about how much weight each revision saved (for shame!) so they might be a bit lighter than that. Or not.

In any case the 2004s were 1792g according to WW, so somewhere in the mid 1700s is likely.

uberwolf

I had come to largely the same conclusion

Eircom_Sucks

gaffmaster wrote: »

I am still relatively new to cycling.

I have a defy 4

Stupid questions time...
Would the addition of these wheels make me enjoy cycling more?
Would they make me faster?
Are rear hubs different sizes? My cassette is 8 speed - does that make a difference?

Muchos Danke Schóns

Get a new bike , the Defy 4 is ok for starting out i guess but its too heavy and its pretty basic

gaffmaster

Eircom_Sucks wrote: »

Get a new bike , the Defy 4 is ok for starting out i guess but its too heavy and its pretty basic

Hmmmm. I have a sneaky feeling this might well become the most expensive hobby of all time....

sy

gaffmaster wrote: »

Hmmmm. I have a sneaky feeling this might well become the most expensive hobby of all time....

barrabus

Crippens1 wrote: »

I've just bought these . I'll post again once I get them on the delivery times and quality of the wheels in case anyone else is interested - they've listed 9 pairs available.

They dont take paypal how did you pay?

Lemag

barrabus wrote: »

They dont take paypal how did you pay?

Bank Transfer.

They're a bike shop so they can fit them with tyres and tubes also without any additional cost for the postage as it still wouldn't reach the 5 kilo(I thnk) threshold and is still pretty much the same size and shape.. They're prices for tyres and tubes are generally better than you'll get here or on CRC.

barrabus

Lemag wrote: »

Bank Transfer.

They're a bike shop so they can fit them with tyres and tubes also without any additional cost for the postage as it still wouldn't reach the 5 kilo(I thnk) threshold and is still pretty much the same size and shape.. They're prices for tyres and tubes are generally better than you'll get here or on CRC.

Thanks.
Did the Irish Bank try and fleece you for the cost of the transfer?

Lemag

barrabus wrote: »

Thanks.
Did the Irish Bank try and fleece you for the cost of the transfer?

Don't know yet as I've yet to receive their bank account details. AFAIK it's free with internet banking. I stand to be corrected on this.

penexpers

barrabus wrote: »

Thanks.
Did the Irish Bank try and fleece you for the cost of the transfer?

All eurozone transfers should be free.

Lemag

Just put in the request for the bank transfer there. For an additional €80 I'm getting Continental Grand Prix 4000 (23-622) fitted with tubes.

Thanks Crippens1

@ barrabus The charge for the transfer was 75 cents and takes 4 working days. Would have been 20 cents (I think) had I made the request through internet banking.

barrabus

thanks lemag
bought a set. Think ill use em for racing and use my other wheels for hills. will have a look at site to see what add ons i might get , have a pair of gp 4000 s lying around somewhere.

blorg

Banks can charge for euro transfers within the EU but not more than they charge for national transfers.

8kvscdpglqnyr4

Great find Crippens1. I've just ordered a set - I was very close to buying the new '10 model in my LBS ... that has saved me a packet!

Crippens1

Hi, I didn't check on this for a couple of days. The payment is via a bank transfer and this is easily set up at your bank or on the phone if you've got internet banking. You just need an IBAN number of the trader which they send you. There is no cost involved within the EU for this.

It's also common enough for German traders not to take credit cards or other fee-based methods although this has improved in recent years.

I made the transfer on Friday and it should have reached them today or maybe tomorrow; bank usually say allow up to 5 working days.

blorg

Crippens1 wrote: »

It's also common enough for German traders not to take credit cards or other fee-based methods although this has improved in recent years.

This is true; a lot of German sellers don't take credit cards, their requiring a bank transfer is not necessarily an attempt to rip you off. Naturally you need to be careful though as there is little protection for you if things go wrong.

Lemag

They're all gone. Of the 10 sets how many were ordered by boardsies?

I ordered 1.

Lemag

They've relisted another 10 for anyone who is interested.

http://cgi.ebay.ie/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290434575801&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNARL:IE:1123

delynet

Also see them listed on this site but can anyone translate if its for one or a pair of wheels.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.bikestore.cc&langpair=de&hl=en

Paul Kiernan

It appears to be €199.90 for the front and €242.90 for the rear so Ebay a bit cheaper!

At that price, I wish I needed a set myself, but I don't, or do I?

8kvscdpglqnyr4

Lemag wrote: »

They're all gone. Of the 10 sets how many were ordered by boardsies?

I ordered 1.

I order 2 sets - 1 for me and 1 for a mate of mine. Put tubes/tyres on them also. Was only €23 for postage of everything.

damoz

Do they come in black anywhere?

Would they be much of an upgrade from stock 32 spoke Alex race wheels?

Crippens1

Just got the wheels delivered (FAW:D) and I think it's the best deal I've done on eBay. Wheels are as described and packed superbly in bubble wrap and foam. From payment to delivery was exactly 1 week.

Roll on the week-end!

Lemag

Crippens1 wrote: »

Just got the wheels delivered (FAW:D) and I think it's the best deal I've done on eBay. Wheels are as described and packed superbly in bubble wrap and foam. From payment to delivery was exactly 1 week.

Roll on the week-end!

Nice one. Great spot Crippens. Can't wait for mine to arrive now.

zzzzzzzz

damoz wrote: »

Would they be much of an upgrade from stock 32 spoke Alex race wheels?

Definitely

damoz

aidan.offbeat wrote: »

Definitely

Just found this link :

http://www.rouesartisanales.com/article-15505311.html

Would that suggest the Mavics are so so (the cheparer Aksium better than the Ksyrium even !!??), and maybe Shimano wheelsets are not too bad an alternative. Or am i missing something - maybe there are other factors .

Lumen

damoz wrote: »

Just found this link :

http://www.rouesartisanales.com/article-15505311.html

Would that suggest the Mavics are so so (the cheparer Aksium better than the Ksyrium even !!??), and maybe Shimano wheelsets are not too bad an alternative. Or am i missing something - maybe there are other factors .

I wouldn't place too much emphasis on aerodynamics for this type of wheel, it really only makes a very tiny difference. A lots of wheels in that test are deep section and/or tubulars.

zzzzzzzz

damoz wrote: »

Just found this link :

http://www.rouesartisanales.com/article-15505311.html

Would that suggest the Mavics are so so (the cheparer Aksium better than the Ksyrium even !!??), and maybe Shimano wheelsets are not too bad an alternative. Or am i missing something - maybe there are other factors .

All I see on that page is LUMEN LUMEN LUMEN LUMEN...

They're talking about the aerodynamics of a non-deep section wheel but you have to also consider stiffness and weight.

blorg

damoz wrote: »

Would they be much of an upgrade from stock 32 spoke Alex race wheels?

I would imagine they would be a major upgrade, yes. I have a few sets of basic 32-spoke Alex rimmed wheels and they are very basic.

damoz

aidan.offbeat wrote: »

All I see on that page is LUMEN LUMEN LUMEN LUMEN...

They're talking about the aerodynamics of a non-deep section wheel but you have to also consider stiffness and weight.

Stiffness and inertia are on the preceeding pages - actually i must read it when i have time, looks interesting. Then when i triangulate all the factors with my budget ill post in the "i should have left the credit card at home" thread.

damoz

blorg wrote: »

I would imagine they would be a major upgrade, yes. I have a few sets of basic 32-spoke Alex rimmed wheels and they are very basic.

Agree - they obviously were at fault for me getting dropped by the main group in club spin. (not my poor cornering and hill climbing).

Explosive_Cornflake

How stiff are these wheels? My girlfriend has Easton Vista on her bike and there's a woeful amount of flex in them.