Rugby followers following "Munster" and "Leinster"

Slideshowbob

I think this is laughable, they get the best of both worlds for 2 rival teams.

I saw a house last week with a flag outside for each - was in D4 though so that explains alot :rolleyes:

I know relatively the 2 teams are newly established but come on, could you imagine Man Utd and Liverpool supporters acting similarly?!

El Weirdo

IBTL/M

poisonated

I don't think that it is the one person supporting both teams. I think there might be a few people in the house and one person is supporting Leinster and the other is supporting Munster.

quicklickpaddy

Slideshowbob wrote: »

I think this is laughable, they get the best of both worlds for 2 rival teams.

I saw a house last week with a flag outside for each - was in D4 though so that explains alot :rolleyes:

I know relatively the 2 teams are newly established but come on, could you imagine Man Utd and Liverpool supporters acting similarly?!

No, but there's a lot more than 4 teams in the premiership. Plus you'd get a lot of Munster people who have moved to Leinster to start a family and vice versa. And even though rugby's got a bad rep on AH for some reason, the following is a lot more civil than soccer. There's a rivalry, not a hatred. So if Leinster get knocked out of the Heineken Cup I'd naturally support Munster for the rest of it. And Ulster for that matter. Why not?

gonnaplayrugby

come on biarritz :D:D:D:D:D

Agricola

I know some people who would follow both. When I say "follow" I mean they would watch any matches that were on Sky and would hope they would beat their opponents.
I think anyone who just got into rugby on the back of the Irish teams success over the last few years would probably have a soft spot for both teams. Maybe more so for those where Im from. ie the netherland on the borders of Leinster and Munster!

thebaz

Munster and leinster been in existence for over 100 years

btw many households in Liverpool have divided loyalty between everton and liverpool

Degag

thebaz wrote: »

Munster and leinster been in existence for over 100 years

btw many households in Liverpool have divided loyalty between everton and liverpool

Just to point out the obvious... Both those clubs are in liverpool.

D4 is in Leinster, not in Munster.

That_Guy

Rubgy is a much more respectful sport than football.

Slideshowbob

thebaz wrote: »

Munster and leinster been in existence for over 100 years

btw many households in Liverpool have divided loyalty between everton and liverpool

Relatively new in relation to participation in European Club competition - up to a few years back they were provincial teams not clubs - no history leesons required thanks I just made an observation

Cant give you exact number on the Merseyside stats sorry

Slideshowbob

That_Guy wrote: »

Rubgy is a much more respectful sport than football.

Eye gouging and spear tackles? Define respectful!?

CatFromHue

i think the best example or question would be how did fans of other teams feel when celtic or man united won the european cup for the first time?

thats why you would have had people watching munster/ulster/leinster games wanting them to win even if they were from other parts of the country.

i for won watched all the ulster knock out games and went to the final when they one the european cup but am a big leinster supporter now.

historically the french teams have knocked the bejaysus out of irish teams, that is changing somewhat now but when playing away in france irish teams are the underdogs.

everyone loves an underdog!

That_Guy

Slideshowbob wrote: »

Eye gouging and spear tackles? Define respectful!?

Sorry I meant between fans. Eye gouging doesn't ALWAYS happen. It's a rough sport yes but players and fans always respect each other.

Micky Dolenz

Slideshowbob wrote: »

Relatively new in relation to participation in European Club competition - up to a few years back they were provincial teams not clubs - no history leesons required thanks I just made an observation

Cant give you exact number on the Merseyside stats sorry

They still are provincial teams. They have been in the European cup since it started.

reprazant

Slideshowbob wrote: »

I saw a house last week with a flag outside for each - was in D4 though so that explains alot :rolleyes:

Or maybe, just maybe, there were people from Leinster and Munster living there?

Or are you only able to support the province you are from if you are living there?

Degag

That_Guy wrote: »

Rubgy is a much more respectful sport than football.

In a way i'd be inclined to agree with you but it's not like Rugby doesn't have it's controversy or cheating involved. Just look at the "Bloodgate" scandal from last year

Slideshowbob

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

They still are provincial teams. They have been in the European cup since it started.

Provincial in name only now really! Professional sports clubs in every other respect

Deus Ex Machina

I love to see Irish teams lose at rugby, I find a lot of the fans in Ireland are conceited, and I like to the starch knocked out of their collars. The whole idea of being a fan of a team doesn't really sit well with me, B.I.R.G.-ing is pathetic.

bonerm

Slideshowbob wrote: »

I know relatively the 2 teams are newly established but come on, could you imagine Man Utd and Liverpool supporters acting similarly?!

Eh, Man United supporters WILL be supporting Liverpool tomorrow.

aDeener

That_Guy wrote: »

Rubgy is a much more respectful sport than football.

such a condescending comment. no sport is in anyway more respectful than the other. there are yobs who follow all games. soccer being far and away more widely played than rugby is going to have more incidents between fans and of course there are certain elements in the media that will like to highlight these moreso than any incidents that may have occurred at a rugby match.

anyway op, you think thats bad, at least the people more than likely have a connection to both teams, but a house not far away from me has a fcuking arsenal flag waving outside it. :rolleyes:

KevR

Supporting rugby is trendy at the moment because the national team and Munster and Leinster have been successful recently. No doubt there are many genuine rugby fans, but there are loads of plastic fans too.

I have to laugh when people get shocked when I say I'm not watching an Ireland rugby game and that I'm instead watching a football match. "You should support your country, not an English football club". I don't like watching rugby in general, it's not that I don't care about my country.

I suppose you don't care about being Irish if you don't watch the Irish cricket team or the Irish women's field hockey team. It doesn't matter if you don't like those sports, you're unpatriotic scum if you don't watch them :rolleyes:. Or does that logic only apply to rugby as the Irish team is successful? :rolleyes:

aDeener

bonerm wrote: »

Eh, Man United supporters WILL be supporting Liverpool tomorrow.

and many liverpool "supporters" are "supporting" chelsea tomorrow :rolleyes:

Euro_Kraut

Deus Ex Machina wrote: »

I love to see Irish teams lose at rugby, I find a lot of the fans in Ireland are conceited, and I like to the starch knocked out of their collars. The whole idea of being a fan of a team doesn't really sit well with me, B.I.R.G.-ing is pathetic.

Translate: I don't like seeing other people happy.

Slideshowbob

Euro_Kraut wrote: »

Translate: I don't like seeing other people happy.

No - I can actually see what he means just I wouldnt go as far

themont85

It is dissapointing as a rugby fan for years to see more 'cheating' creeping in and incidents of disrespect, still far more respectful than one of my other sports, football.

Euro_Kraut

Slideshowbob wrote: »

No - I can actually see what he means just I wouldnt go as far

Sounds like an inferiority complex to me. Why on earth you would like to see an Irish team lose just so he can see some people unhappy is beyond me.

If you don't like sports, fine. Just don't look down your nose at those who do.

quicklickpaddy

aDeener wrote: »

such a condescending comment. no sport is in anyway more respectful than the other. there are yobs who follow all games. soccer being far and away more widely played than rugby is going to have more incidents between fans and of course there are certain elements in the media that will like to highlight these moreso than any incidents that may have occurred at a rugby match.

He said it in a fairly ignorant way but he does have a point. I mean, in the premiership they have to physically divide the fans for their own safety. Whatever about about more popularity and a higher chance of trouble, I still don't think that justifies the level of violence.

Even if you don't agree with that, my dad is a GAA man through and through. He went to the Ireland/France game in Croke Park purely because it was the first non GAA match played there. He couldn't get over the fact that the entire 83000 people there stayed quite for the opposing teams penalty. There is a higher amount of respect in rugby - mainly, I think, because there has to be. With such a physical game, if you can't take a hit and get up and shake the guys hand the sport would never, ever reach a professional level and that mutual respect filters through to the supporters

Big Nasty

'Soccer is a gentlemans game played by rufians
while rugby is a rufians game played by gentlemen'

While the above saying is a generalisation and not true for every player or supporter I do, generally, find it to be applicable. Not a soccer fan at all don't mind the rugby, more into motorsports myself. However I worked in the bar trade for many years and there is always a better atmosphere, more friendly and respectful during rugby games as opposed to soccer.

In relation to the flag thing they're both Irish teams and while playing against another (non Irish) team I would support them both. Being from Leinster if they are playing Munster I will obviously support Leinster.

bonerm

MCMLXXV wrote: »

Rugby vs Soccer

.... and troll is a success.

stepbar

Slideshowbob wrote: »

I think this is laughable, they get the best of both worlds for 2 rival teams.

I saw a house last week with a flag outside for each - was in D4 though so that explains alot :rolleyes:

I know relatively the 2 teams are newly established but come on, could you imagine Man Utd and Liverpool supporters acting similarly?!

Your logic is mindblowing :rolleyes:

recylingbin

Slideshowbob wrote: »

I think this is laughable, they get the best of both worlds for 2 rival teams.

I saw a house last week with a flag outside for each - was in D4 though so that explains alot :rolleyes:

I know relatively the 2 teams are newly established but come on, could you imagine Man Utd and Liverpool supporters acting similarly?!

Maybe there's 2 fuc*wits in the house.
1 supporting the recently established Leinster franchise and the other supporting the recently established Munster franchise.

Sharpshooter

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