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IRFU angered by a bit of flesh

  • 28-04-2010 8:13am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    http://blog.marketing.ie/?p=2717
    The Irish Rugby Football Union (IRFU) has made contact through its solicitors with Largo Foods, makers of Hunky Dorys crisps, and asked that they immediately withdraw the current ad campaign, the strap line for which claims Hunky Dorys to be ‘proud sponsors of Irish rugby’.

    Padraig Power, commercial and marketing director, IRFU, said the Hunky Dory campaign is in “very bad taste and one which the IRFU would not want to be associated with in any way”. Power said it was blatant exploitation of women, tasteless and base.

    Power said the ad was “unacceptable”. Irish rugby had a strong family focus and would not tolerate any connection with such an approach. The claim that the product is a ‘proud sponsor of Irish rugby’ implies that the brand is a significant sponsor of the game in this country.

    “This is absolutely untrue and a cynical ploy in an attempt to capitalise on the games popularity,” Power added. “By doing so it has the potential to undermine the legitimate claims of the many genuine sponsors and supporters of Irish rugby.”

    As well as pursuing the campaign’s withdrawal through legal means the IRFU is also writing to the Advertising Standards Authority (ASAI). Power said the hope was that Largo Foods will immediately withdraw the ad.

    The ad, which uses images sourced from the US, was booked to run on posters from this week. Hunky Dorys sponsored the WBA world championship fight between Bernard Dunne and Ricardo Cordoba last year.

    Ray Coyle, chief executive, Largo Foods, said the reference to ‘proud sponsors of Irish rugby’ relates to his company’s support for the Navan rugby team. He was surprised that people regarded the ads as sexist.

    Now I'm all for equality but I'm also all for b00bs so I'm internally conflicted...

    Are the IRFU right to start throwing their toys out of the pram? 141 votes

    Yes it's highly insulting to everyone.
    0% 0 votes
    No it's a ridiculous response
    14% 21 votes
    None of the birds I've ever seen playing tag rugby look like that
    85% 120 votes


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭the drifter


    the IRFU can f*ck off..............


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    As a redblooded male - I love the ad - and almost crashed on seeing it.:D

    I can see the IRFU's point though. They are custodians of the game here and lots of women love playing and watching rugby. A bit cheeky too with the tagline when it is only Navan they sponsor.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    mathie wrote: »
    http://blog.marketing.ie/?p=2717



    Now I'm all for equality but I'm also all for b00bs so I'm internally conflicted...

    It's a common misconception that you can't have one without the other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭jonsnow


    the best ad campaign in many a year.and theres nothing like a bit of controversy to promote the brand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    brian o driscoll is a tit and he's allowed be on ads...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    I thought it'd be something about hookers.

    Rugby is indeed a game governed by men with oddly-shaped morals.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    topper75 wrote: »
    As a redblooded male - I love the ad - and almost crashed on seeing it.:D

    I can see the IRFU's point though. They are custodians of the game here and lots of women love playing and watching rugby. A bit cheeky too with the tagline when it is only Navan they sponsor.

    As a redblooded female, the ad can go fck itself :D

    Well I am not seeing the connection with sexily semi-clad women, rugby and crisps.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    If they can put up a poster of what looks like a man being sodomised in the hole (that 12 Nation Army one. I have to laugh whenever I see it. And yes I know what that says about me......too much pr0nz), I don't see the problem with this one.

    Although it makes absolutely no sense from a colloquialism-ic way. What does it mean "are you staring at my crisps?". Could they not have come up with "feel the crunch?", ah advertising. You b*llocks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭El Siglo


    In this day and age, fucking ridiculous of the IRFU. It's a bit of tit, women have them, big fucking deal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    El Siglo wrote: »
    In this day and age, fucking ridiculous of the IRFU. It's a bit of tit, women have them, big fucking deal.

    And women also enjoy rugby. Rugby is a decent game that is not marred by this kind of crap. It would be nice not to have to put up with seeing the objectification of women for at least one sport.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭eoferrall


    Is it not that they say proud sponsors of Irish Rugby when they do not sponsor the irish rugby team at all? the rest is just in addition and IRFU wouldn't care if hunky dorys weren't making false claims on the ad?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,426 ✭✭✭Roar


    it's not so much about the ad, it's that hunky dory's are claiming to be an official partner of irish rugby in it, however they haven't paid any money to the IRFU to become an official partner, so in that case the IRFU are dead right..

    either way, job done by the ad! we're talking about it now!


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    eoferrall wrote: »
    Is it not that they say proud sponsors of Irish Rugby when they do not sponsor the irish rugby team at all? the rest is just in addition and IRFU wouldn't care if hunky dorys weren't making false claims on the ad?
    They sponsor a team in Navan... Maybe thats what they mean. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    I'm a girl who likes rugby, and I love that ad! I saw it yesterday for the first time while driving and it WAS pretty distracting...it's hawt! Reminiscent of the famous Hello Boys ad campaign.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭lisbon_lions


    Jesus can Hunky Dory not catch a break? First it was the complaints for the 'kick out of bed' ads from the feminist/ugly bint brigade - now its these cracking ads coming under fire from the IRFU!

    Lets take to the quays in protest at the IRFU.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,100 ✭✭✭eightyfish


    They probably would have gotten away with it if they hadn't said ‘proud sponsors of Irish rugby’ on the ads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Very English ad, but so is the game of ruggers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    I notice the Irish Times has allows the viewer to magnify the image.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭eoferrall


    PORNAPSTER wrote: »
    They sponsor a team in Navan... Maybe thats what they mean. ;)

    Ha! don't know if Powerade etc would be happy with that enabling they to state it - hence IRFU protecting their advertisers (and IRFU's advertising revenue!:p)


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    WindSock wrote: »
    And women also enjoy rugby. Rugby is a decent game that is not marred by this kind of crap. It would be nice not to have to put up with seeing the objectification of women for at least one sport.

    Now mostly I agree with this perspective, but why is huge muscely men straining themselves (often with their tops off) in advertising perfectly acceptable and has been for years and this is not?


    Now don't get me wrong. Advertising is a scummy industry, and yes the IRFU have a valid point in that they don't sponsor them. But you know, I am a big fan of equality, but I really mean equality.

    Sure there's bigger, more evil cases of sexism and bigotry to be dealt with than this.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,282 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    mike65 wrote: »
    I notice the Irish Times has allows the viewer to magnify the image.
    You tell us this and dont post a link? Shame on you!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    the IRFU can f*ck off..............

    Hunky Dorys can f*ck right off.

    You have to pay to become an official sponsor of the IRFU and that sponsorship money goes back into the game. Hunky Dorys are being cheap ba$tards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    Sex sells, plain and simple. I really don't see the big deal. Men are also objectified in the same way. Take, for instance, Dolce & Gabbana. They're using five Italian footballers in the run up to the World Cup in this ad (swoon!) I can't see there being a similar outcry over that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 489 ✭✭Trashbat


    Rugby is a broad term to describe a Code change to football.

    The IRFU represent a sport called "Rugby Union". They have nothing to do with another sport called "Rugby League", and thus have no claim over the word Rugby.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    They are angry because they know they will never ever get close to a girl as hot as that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Now mostly I agree with this perspective, but why is huge muscely men straining themselves (often with their tops off) in advertising perfectly acceptable and has been for years and this is not?

    I don't know, why is it?

    Now don't get me wrong. Advertising is a scummy industry, and yes the IRFU have a valid point in that they don't sponsor them. But you know, I am a big fan of equality, but I really mean equality.

    What's that got to do with it? Do you not think I don't?
    Sure there's bigger, more evil cases of sexism and bigotry to be dealt with than this.

    There sure are. Doesn't mean I can't dislike an ad claiming to promote the only sport I actually respect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Kiith wrote: »
    You tell us this and dont post a link? Shame on you!

    Sorry! :o

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0428/1224269221337.html

    They appear to be wearing Aussie Rules (redux) attire


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    I didn't realise the IRFU owned the right to the phrase "proud sponsors of Irish Rugby".

    Fúck them and fúck their new Aviva Stadium. Shower of moneygrabbing cúnts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Honestly, I think it's crass, sexist, tacky and lacking in any subtlety at all.

    Here's some semi-naked girl, buy our crisps!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    Honestly, I think it's crass, sexist, tacky and lacking in any subtlety at all.

    Here's some semi-naked girl, buy our crisps!

    Pretty much the dictionary definition of 'Advertising'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭beanyb


    The ads are tacky, and clearly not very clever. But I dont understand the uproar at all. It's just some boobs. All the complaints are doing is increasing coverage of the brand. They couldnt have gotten better publicity if they intended for all this outrage to happen, and who knows, maybe they did.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Mediocre ad in mediocrity shocker!

    A bit of cleavage does not a genius advertising campaign make.


    The people defending the ad are almost as funny as the people getting worked up about it.
    Oh My Gawd! It's so Hot! I can't believe it! I had to scrape my jaw off the floor!

    Some models are wearing tight clothes! Big f*cking deal! Every day there's bikini clad models selling us insurance, betting sites or incontinence nappies in the papers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,826 ✭✭✭phill106


    Honestly, I think it's crass, sexist, tacky and lacking in any subtlety at all.

    Agreed, I am glad other companies wouldn't stoop to showing half naked people advertising their products.


    *Sips diet coke, as he takes a break from construction work*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    biko wrote: »
    Very English ad, but so is the game of ruggers.

    Your point being?
    WindSock wrote: »
    I don't know, why is it?




    What's that got to do with it? Do you not think I don't?



    There sure are. Doesn't mean I can't dislike an ad claiming to promote the only sport I actually respect.

    What exactly is your problem with the add?

    The models are showing a bit of flesh, nothing out of the ordinary. They are not topless or bottomless, which would make for a better ad, but the conservatives and christians would be completely outraged at that.

    Then marketing rugby as a "family" sport... lol.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    WindSock wrote: »
    I don't know, why is it?




    What's that got to do with it? Do you not think I don't?



    There sure are. Doesn't mean I can't dislike an ad claiming to promote the only sport I actually respect.

    In your first post you claim you don't want a sport which you admire to be "marred by this kind of crap". You could argue it has been for a while, just not with women.

    Just for the record I think it's a cacky ad too.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    What exactly is your problem with the add?

    The models are showing a bit of flesh, nothing out of the ordinary. They are not topless or bottomless, which would make for a better ad, but the conservatives and christians would be completely outraged at that.

    Then marketing rugby as a "family" sport... lol.

    I just don't like the ad. Sure there are semi naked women advertising everything else. I don't like those ads either. I don't like this more as it is promoting a sport that I like. I like the sport as it is not crass like other sports imo.
    Not only that, but the Irish Womens Rugby gets feck all promotion, then we have to see a bunch of tits and asses that are from overseas using the sport to promote a package of crisps.

    I am not outraged, I am not worked up, I just don't like the ad. Is that ok?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    I wont be buying hunky dorys because theres a rugby ball in them.

    stupid f*ckin' game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    In your first post you claim you don't want a sport which you admire to be "marred by this kind of crap". You could argue it has been for a while, just not with women.

    Are the men objectified in the other ads or glorified? They are also the rugby players in the other ads. However if men feel that they are being objectified in the ad and don't like it, then I support that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    I'm a girl who likes rugby, and I love that ad! I saw it yesterday for the first time while driving and it WAS pretty distracting...it's hawt! Reminiscent of the famous Hello Boys ad campaign.

    and this one from a while back.
    I'd like to have sex as a bloke....doggy style

    Hmm, Someone has some tendencies. Have you ever 'experimented'? If so, are there videos?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    NothingMan wrote: »
    and this one from a while back.



    Hmm, Someone has some tendencies. Have you ever 'experimented'? If so, are there videos?


    I'm just a straight girl who also appreciates the female form

    < . <
    > . >


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    topper75 wrote: »
    As a redblooded male - I love the ad - and almost crashed on seeing it.:D

    I can see the IRFU's point though. They are custodians of the game here and lots of women love playing and watching rugby. A bit cheeky too with the tagline when it is only Navan they sponsor.

    Get off the road


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    WindSock wrote: »
    I just don't like the ad. Sure there are semi naked women advertising everything else. I don't like those ads either. I don't like this more as it is promoting a sport that I like. I like the sport as it is not crass like other sports imo.
    Not only that, but the Irish Womens Rugby gets feck all promotion, then we have to see a bunch of tits and asses that are from overseas using the sport to promote a package of crisps.

    I am not outraged, I am not worked up, I just don't like the ad. Is that ok?

    I like the sport too, but I care not for the adverts of the sport really. I'm no rugby expert but it's the only sport I will watch properly.

    The approach is cheap, tacky etc etc, but it's what gets you looking at the adverts that counts. This sport is male dominant, no doubt. These women are very attractive to most men, people will look at these adverts and fantasize about them.

    It's business, womens rugby is not as lucrative as mens rugby, it's not even nearly as competative or appealing (believe it or not). Like most male dominant sports, the female counterparts dwell in their shadow. Capatilsm is not very nice.

    Is that ok? Sure it's ok for you to dislike something, I am only asking to dissolve the assumptions my subconcious is making.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    Advertisment gets people talking about the company in the advert. News at 11.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    For some reason they covered this on 'The last word' yesterday. Some woman was ranting and raving about how it was degrading to women's rugby and what not.
    I don't know, why is it?

    Because men are less hypocritical than women? Women have no problem wearing low cut tops, short skirts, tight jeans and heels to draw attention to themselves on a night out, but when the same principal is used in an advert it's exploitation of women!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    eoinbn wrote: »
    For some reason they covered this on 'The last word' yesterday. Some woman was ranting and raving about how it was degrading to women's rugby and what not.



    Because men are less hypocritical than women? Women have no problem wearing low cut tops, short skirts, tight jeans and heels to draw attention to themselves on a night out, but when the same principal is used in an advert it's exploitation of women!

    That's because the women giving out about it are ugly fat slags who are simply jealous, and then take it upon themselves to speak on behalf of all women. Cheeky selfish beatches...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,100 ✭✭✭eightyfish


    Advertisment gets people talking about the company in the advert. News at 11.

    To be honest I didn't even know the ad was for crisps, and I've seen it dozens of times already. I'm a King man anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,418 ✭✭✭Jip


    Where's the campaign to ban the diet Coke ads ? But they're only mild, the following advertisement for Aero Bubbles is absolutely disgusting and I think a boycott is needed, where's the facebook campaign page for this ?



    Oh wait, sexism is only sexist when a woman is involved, in todays society it's totally acceptable for a man to be shown as a sex object for all the durty wimmins fantasys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,100 ✭✭✭eightyfish


    BTW I can't wrote, I don't agree with either option. Where's the "Yes, they shouldn't be claiming to be official sponsors of Irish rugby when they're not but really the ad is just dumb." choice?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭Rothmans


    Trashbat wrote: »
    Rugby is a broad term to describe a Code change to football.

    The IRFU represent a sport called "Rugby Union". They have nothing to do with another sport called "Rugby League", and thus have no claim over the word Rugby.

    When one refers to rugby (in this country especially), they refer to rugby Union. If one is refering to league they say rugby league, not just rugby. In the minds of the vast vast majority of Irish people, rugby is the rugby that is broadcasted on rte etc, ie rugby union


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Jip wrote: »
    Where's the campaign to ban the diet Coke ads ? But they're only mild, the following advertisement for Aero Bubbles is absolutely disgusting and I think a boycott is needed, where's the facebook campaign page for this ?

    I don't know, where is the campaign? Set one up if you feel so strongly about it.

    Oh wait, sexism is only sexist when a woman is involved, in todays society it's totally acceptable for a man to be shown as a sex object for all the durty wimmins fantasys.

    Says who?


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